Cayman GTS

Cayman GTS

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Simo_UK

55 posts

70 months

Saturday 12th June
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Long shot, but I don't suppose anyone here sold a black Cayman GTS back to Porsche Solihull in Feb/May, exchanging for a GT4?

Mario149

7,726 posts

145 months

Sunday 13th June
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Also a long shot: anyone here know anyone that owns a Dark Blue Metallic Boxster GTS with red roof? If so, it's almost certainly my old car I ordered and factory collected in 2015. Just wondering where she's at and what she's doing smile

AW10

3,813 posts

216 months

Monday 14th June
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Mario149 said:
Also a long shot: anyone here know anyone that owns a Dark Blue Metallic Boxster GTS with red roof? If so, it's almost certainly my old car I ordered and factory collected in 2015. Just wondering where she's at and what she's doing smile
Could it have been traded in at the Portsmouth OPC about March 2017?

AlexNJ89

566 posts

46 months

Monday 14th June
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TDT said:
Yep. That’s my old car mate. I was the first owner.
Factory order from New in 2014.

I ordered from Reading and also sold it back to them when changing to GT4. It then went to OPC Portsmouth, where is was bought by second owner who got in touch with me. He then sold to Ashgood few weeks back, and then went to Paragon I guess.

I covered about 22k in it as my daily in just about 2.5years. Mainly station, airport as I worked internationally and in the city’s, and obviously fun drives. Frikin’ loved it... proper weapon with PDK, PTV/LSD and X73.

Any Qs let me know. Second owner added some little bits i believe, GTS badges and carbon entry sills.
I ordered it debadged and it had standard entry stills.

Would love to see it again. Held its value well too.

Edited by TDT on Saturday 12th June 10:12
I saw this car on Pistonheads as it is fantastic looking and I was wondering who specced the car because it was such a strange spec given it had the carbon sills but not front parking sensors.

They didn't list X73 in the ad so I thought it was missing PASM, also no front parking sensors, I don't trust myself in tight spacing.

I think X73 would've been too firm for me on the daily.

Hope the new owner enjoys the car!

n12maser

439 posts

59 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Thanks!

Fyi for your search, I don't believe you can get a 981 GTS on any other suspension than PASM or x73. So if it doesn't list PASM (and if there's no shock button on the centre console) then by default it's x73.

I live in London and my 993 has no parking sensors & manage ok...so I figured having 1 sensor is a nice bonus smile

Twinfan

8,244 posts

71 months

Tuesday 15th June
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n12maser said:
Fyi for your search, I don't believe you can get a 981 GTS on any other suspension than PASM or x73. So if it doesn't list PASM (and if there's no shock button on the centre console) then by default it's x73.
Totally correct - pictures can say a thousand words!

One option that's hard to know if the car has or not, if it's not listed in an ad, is PTV (with the LSD). Other than that, you can pretty much work everything else out from stalks on the column, the centre console and general internal/external pictures.

n12maser

439 posts

59 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Yep, I wanted PTV but was willing to compromise and not have it. It wasn't listed in the ad and I put a deposit down anyway...then TDT rocks up on here and says he specd that car with PTV. The beauty of pistonheads smile

Twinfan

8,244 posts

71 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Indeed - a nice bonus!

AlexNJ89

566 posts

46 months

Tuesday 15th June
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n12maser said:
Thanks!

Fyi for your search, I don't believe you can get a 981 GTS on any other suspension than PASM or x73. So if it doesn't list PASM (and if there's no shock button on the centre console) then by default it's x73.

I live in London and my 993 has no parking sensors & manage ok...so I figured having 1 sensor is a nice bonus smile
Nice, that explains it. I can usually tell if a non-GTS has PASM or not by how low it sits and this car seems to have a nice stance.


n12maser

439 posts

59 months

Monday 5th July
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Picked up my (981) Cayman GTS on Saturday - have only driven it a bit so far and just scratching the surface, but am very impressed. This is TDT's old car with a pretty performance-orientated spec: X73, PTV, PDK.

Having taken a punt without ever driving a Cayman before, there was a level of risk involved. But am very pleased with the purchase so far - the engine has lovely throaty noise even at lower revs, then up high with windows down it's a real banshee. It's definitely engaging when you're not going crazy speeds, which is a relief...something I was worried about coming from aircooled 911s. Think the 981 GTS has also aged very well considering it's nearly 7 years old.

It feels much more analogue than I thought it would in my head - so far have no real problem with the steering feel vs my 993....it's nice and heavy, yes it doesn't jitter around over every rut but I don't particularly miss that and it can sometimes be tiresome. Perhaps the only minor thing I notice so far is the steering doesn't load up with weight mid-corner like the 993 does, it's more neutral feeling through the bend. Maybe that's just a more general Cayman vs 911 thing? I've only ever driven 911s so this is my first experience of a mid-engine car. I also notice that it doesn't feel as adjustable on the throttle - you can throttle-steer but the way the car reacts to tucking the nose in is a bit lazier vs the 993.

PDK is also something new to me. It already feels like it really suits this car, and the way it downshifts in particular is insane. Been driving in manual mode mostly and feel there's enough engagement without a manual box - on majority of b-road road driving in the 993 I rarely got into 3rd gear, preferring to stay high in the revs in 2nd. Glad I went PDK for the lower gearing to also be able to do this as it maxes out at around 75mph in 2nd gear. So actually at say 60mph I'm higher in the rev range in 2nd gear than in the 993...not sure the long-gearing thing is a problem in PDK, maybe it never was and that was more a problem with manual Caymans. An engine that revs up to nearly 8k is also new to me...whole new world up there!

So far, so good.

Twinfan

8,244 posts

71 months

Monday 5th July
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Gearing isn't a problem in either manual or PDK - 75mph vs 82(?) isn't enough of a difference for either to be substantially 'better' than the other.

Glad you're enjoying the car, they're great!

n12maser

439 posts

59 months

Monday 5th July
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Thanks. I hear you - I guess re-reading the post above I'm (without thinking about it) directly addressing two things...steering and gearing...that I was potentially worried might dampen the experience, having spent too much time on the forums and reading reviews.

Twinfan

8,244 posts

71 months

Monday 5th July
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Both are over-inflated non-issues IMHO, but it makes good copy for writers or a handy bandwagon to jump on when there's nothing else to say biggrin

Other views are of course available, yadda yadda yadda...

n12maser

439 posts

59 months

Monday 5th July
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yep, having finally driven the car, was glad to discover that's the case! smile

testdrive

2,794 posts

162 months

Monday 5th July
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Twinfan said:
Gearing isn't a problem in either manual or PDK - 75mph vs 82(?) isn't enough of a difference for either to be substantially 'better' than the other.

Glad you're enjoying the car, they're great!
Mine changes into 3rd at 69mph, manual is without doubt more engaging but pdk is a good 10mph lower going into 3rd. If the speed was lower it's no big deal but for me 69 is already at the limit of acceptance for a fun road car.

Twinfan

8,244 posts

71 months

Monday 5th July
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testdrive said:
Mine changes into 3rd at 69mph, manual is without doubt more engaging but pdk is a good 10mph lower going into 3rd. If the speed was lower it's no big deal but for me 69 is already at the limit of acceptance for a fun road car.
I assume that's in auto mode as the max in gear speed in 3rd will be 100mph-ish at a guess.

You can short-shift using a manual gearbox too wink

JasonSteel

505 posts

63 months

Monday 5th July
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testdrive said:
Mine changes into 3rd at 69mph, manual is without doubt more engaging but pdk is a good 10mph lower going into 3rd. If the speed was lower it's no big deal but for me 69 is already at the limit of acceptance for a fun road car.
so you change up into 3rd @ 69mph and then what? brake? keep the speed at a constant 69mph?

testdrive

2,794 posts

162 months

Monday 5th July
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No need to shoot me down for providing facts, 7500 rpm = 69mph it's a quite a bit higher in a manual car, that's the disappointing truth.

It's also true that you can change gear at 60mph in either but you'll be further along the road with the pdk car.




Twinfan

8,244 posts

71 months

Monday 5th July
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testdrive said:
No need to shoot me down for providing facts, 7500 rpm = 69mph it's a quite a bit higher in a manual car, that's the disappointing truth.

It's also true that you can change gear at 60mph in either but you'll be further along the road with the pdk car.
That's second gear then, not third?

I need to dig out the manual/PDK speed differences...

testdrive

2,794 posts

162 months

Monday 5th July
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Twinfan said:
That's second gear then, not third?

I need to dig out the manual/PDK speed differences...
It's as I said originally I find the redline at 69 as I change into 3rd. Top end of 3rd is around 100 mph.

No need as I advised you are about 10mph higher at 7500 in a manual 3.4l 981. I've driven many, love a manual but those are the facts (sadly)!