Discussion
Gibbo205 said:
Your still missing the key point, people buy the R over the S because they want the rarity and exclusivity, the pinnacle of the 987 range. For the punters who want that, the R is the only answer, yet others like yourself will be more than happy to buy an S and mod it.
Different things for different folks, neither is right or wrong but an R will always be worth more than a modded S, all day every day.
When the words rare and exclusive are used in the context of the CR, you know we’re scraping the barrel Different things for different folks, neither is right or wrong but an R will always be worth more than a modded S, all day every day.
tracydeedance said:
As an Ex owner of a 996 GT3 mk1 and Mk 2 previously to my CR ownership which is now owned by AAAndy on here i have been reading all the pros and cons, first of all great cars in there own rights all suited to road and track obviously more track focused is the GT3.
Everyone has different needs which suits there purpose .My CR had Buckets PSE Chrono Spyder wheels Man box which was perfect for my occasional drives home and abroad.
I am reading a lot about the CR vs the S Sorry to say it's a different animal and drive, as others have pointed out you can Tweak an S to give a closer experience but it's going to be expensive and frankly why would you.I
Also been pointed out how rare is a run of the mill S where as the CR is a little over 200 for the UK equal split between gearboxes which is horses for course for its needs.
My circumstances have changed so my choice as I wanted a drive as near to the CR as possible with under half the budget of a CR , so I bought a Cayman S Sport with plenty of performance options on it .
Yes I know I know it's a Gen 1 engine but a well maintained reg oil change engine's plenty of Gen 1 don't have problems.
It really does handle perform sound as close to my old CR as I could wish for and less than half the budget, to be honest I am hard pushed to see much difference it's such great car fun to drive.
It's somewhere between and S and a CR but closer to the R having had all the models.
Talking of being rare only 65 in the UK today apparently.
What's it's all about Ladies and Gents is enjoying all the models all good in there own rights.
Enjoy petrol while we can as true petrol heads.
All only my options of course but perfectly placed as owns all models above.
Have fun.
Everyone has different needs which suits there purpose .My CR had Buckets PSE Chrono Spyder wheels Man box which was perfect for my occasional drives home and abroad.
I am reading a lot about the CR vs the S Sorry to say it's a different animal and drive, as others have pointed out you can Tweak an S to give a closer experience but it's going to be expensive and frankly why would you.I
Also been pointed out how rare is a run of the mill S where as the CR is a little over 200 for the UK equal split between gearboxes which is horses for course for its needs.
My circumstances have changed so my choice as I wanted a drive as near to the CR as possible with under half the budget of a CR , so I bought a Cayman S Sport with plenty of performance options on it .
Yes I know I know it's a Gen 1 engine but a well maintained reg oil change engine's plenty of Gen 1 don't have problems.
It really does handle perform sound as close to my old CR as I could wish for and less than half the budget, to be honest I am hard pushed to see much difference it's such great car fun to drive.
It's somewhere between and S and a CR but closer to the R having had all the models.
Talking of being rare only 65 in the UK today apparently.
What's it's all about Ladies and Gents is enjoying all the models all good in there own rights.
Enjoy petrol while we can as true petrol heads.
All only my options of course but perfectly placed as owns all models above.
Have fun.
Escy said:
I'd suggest it is everyone for one car, they are basically the same thing. The list of significant changes you couldn't spec on an S is negligible. If you had the geo on an S done to the same spec as an R and drove each car back to back you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Harsh ...but fair
tighnamara said:
Slippydiff said:
When the words rare and exclusive are used in the context of the CR, you know we’re scraping the barrel
Does it really matter But for the record, if we’re talking “rare” and “exclusive” in the Porsche pantheon, this springs to mind :
Not what to all intents and purposes is a Cayman S with some choice fripperies deleted or added and a monika purloined from the lightest 911 Porsche ever produced by Stuttgart.
Slippydiff said:
Not in the least But for the record, if we’re talking “rare” and “exclusive” in the Porsche pantheon, this springs to mind :
Not what to all intents and purposes is a Cayman S with some choice fripperies deleted or added and a monika purloined from the lightest 911 Porsche ever produced by Stuttgart.
Very nice But for the record, if we’re talking “rare” and “exclusive” in the Porsche pantheon, this springs to mind :Not what to all intents and purposes is a Cayman S with some choice fripperies deleted or added and a monika purloined from the lightest 911 Porsche ever produced by Stuttgart.
tighnamara said:
Very nice
Yours for the price of £425Khttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207217...
julian987R said:
tighnamara said:
Very nice
Yours for the price of £425Khttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207217...
Edited by bencollins4 on Wednesday 21st September 21:46
ChrisW. said:
Or this ?
75000 miles ....
I don’t particularly like the impact bumper cars, but boy oh boy, would I make an exception for a 3.2 Club Sport Chris.
75000 miles ....
There’s a mega high miles one in the UK, it was owned by a gentleman in the Midlands who used it as his daily driver. I used to see it being used in all weathers.
The owner specified it from the factory sans side decals, so it looked very discrete (and special) in Grand Prix white with red and silver Fuchs (I think he may have fitted 7” & 8” versions, rather than factory fitted 6 & 7” items) either way, it was a lovely car to see on the road all those years ago
Escy said:
If I had the geo on an S done to the same spec as an R and drove each car back to back I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Fixed for you. But maybe it's best not to try and tell people what they would or wouldn't be able to tell. If you have driven an R and an S back to back as some of us actually have, you'd perhaps understand why your statement was a bit daft. The S with PASM in hard or soft mode, or an S with the standard suspension do not feel the same as the R setup.
You don't see the value in the R, and that's absolutely fine. Many don't, many do. It doesn't matter. I'm just not sure why you'd come to a Cayman R owners thread and try telling us we couldn't tell the difference. Bit odd.
julian987R said:
And then you'd have to pay to retrim it, assuming you weren't colour blind! Slippydiff said:
Not in the least But for the record, if we’re talking “rare” and “exclusive” in the Porsche pantheon, this springs to mind :
Not what to all intents and purposes is a Cayman S with some choice fripperies deleted or added and a monika purloined from the lightest 911 Porsche ever produced by Stuttgart.
No, that’s just a 997.2 S with a body kit, new wheels and engine tune if your Cayman R/ Cayman S logic is applied? Might as well just buy a regular 997S and fit aftermarket parts… But for the record, if we’re talking “rare” and “exclusive” in the Porsche pantheon, this springs to mind :Not what to all intents and purposes is a Cayman S with some choice fripperies deleted or added and a monika purloined from the lightest 911 Porsche ever produced by Stuttgart.
Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
swanny71 said:
No, that’s just a 997.2 S with a body kit, new wheels and engine tune if your Cayman R/ Cayman S logic is applied? Might as well just buy a regular 997S and fit aftermarket parts…
Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
What your forgetting swanny is his opinion is correct and yours is not! Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
I just love how we are on a cayman r chat, couple of guys mug it off completely to actual owners and then start spouting on about £300k+ porsche 911's, all very odd. I am not an owner of any but would 100% take an R over an S, if I couldn't afford an R I wouldn't buy and S and modify it.
joshcowin said:
swanny71 said:
No, that’s just a 997.2 S with a body kit, new wheels and engine tune if your Cayman R/ Cayman S logic is applied? Might as well just buy a regular 997S and fit aftermarket parts…
Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
What your forgetting swanny is his opinion is correct and yours is not! Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
I just love how we are on a cayman r chat, couple of guys mug it off completely to actual owners and then start spouting on about £300k+ porsche 911's, all very odd. I am not an owner of any but would 100% take an R over an S, if I couldn't afford an R I wouldn't buy and S and modify it.
I don't get why there is need for such negativity to a car others purchased and drive, all are entitled to opinions but it gets a bit boring.
If you don't like the R and think an S could be the same car fine just move on...........................
Cayman R owner (obviously a mug and should have purchased an S to modify) who needs to get out in his more
swanny71 said:
No, that’s just a 997.2 S with a body kit, new wheels and engine tune if your Cayman R/ Cayman S logic is applied? Might as well just buy a regular 997S and fit aftermarket parts…
Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
They made just 250. Hence it’s rare. Of course if you can find a widebody C2 with a Powerkit upgrade, a double bubble roof, in a unique hue, with a unique interior for less than £275K, my check book is ready to be opened.Or do special rules apply if it’s a 911?
Let’s not forget the SC cost more than a 997 GT3 RS at their launch, hence the exclusivity. The R was/is neither, and never will be.
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