Recall for GT4 3rd gear issue?

Recall for GT4 3rd gear issue?

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Tutosky

27 posts

79 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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TDT said:
Mad Scientist said:
My OPC just confirmed it’s happening too. My car was registered 1/3/16 and is effected.

Shiny new box and diff before the track day season.
Did you call them or they called you?
You can use this link:

https://recall.porsche.com/prod/pag/vinrecalllooku...

I checked mine and got this:

Campaigns
Replace manual transmission | WJ88 | Feb 08,2019

Description
A 6-speed manual gearbox, in which the durability of the gear wheel for 3rd gear cannot be guaranteed over the entire service life of the vehicle due to the high performance characteristic of the drive train, was installed on the affected vehicles.
Remedy
the transmission must be replaced by an optimised transmission with reinforced gear wheels.

TDT

4,935 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Tutosky said:
TDT said:
Mad Scientist said:
My OPC just confirmed it’s happening too. My car was registered 1/3/16 and is effected.

Shiny new box and diff before the track day season.
Did you call them or they called you?
You can use this link:

https://recall.porsche.com/prod/pag/vinrecalllooku...

I checked mine and got this:

Campaigns
Replace manual transmission | WJ88 | Feb 08,2019

Description
A 6-speed manual gearbox, in which the durability of the gear wheel for 3rd gear cannot be guaranteed over the entire service life of the vehicle due to the high performance characteristic of the drive train, was installed on the affected vehicles.
Remedy
the transmission must be replaced by an optimised transmission with reinforced gear wheels.
Cheers. Just popped my VIN in and am all clear, as I suspected.
Would good to get a check up on the oil separator part though.

tonto1

441 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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June 2016 registered car. Waiting to hear back from OPC on plan to sort.

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isaldiri

18,577 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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jcosh said:
Excuse my ignorance, but it was mentioned somewhere about the diff being part of this recall, surely they are two different parts and the original diff will stay in place when the new gearbox is fitted?
The diff is part of the gearbox in the gt4 afaik. new gearbox comes with a new diff. Anyway new diff plates for free, what's not to like about that? biggrin

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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tonto1 said:
June 2016 registered car. Waiting to hear back from OPC on plan to sort.
Would be good if you can report back on their estimate of how long they will need the car for. I guess mine will be subject to the recall but with some trips already planned for the very near future, those plans would be ruined if they wanted the car for 4 weeks or more!

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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TDT said:
Cheers. Just popped my VIN in and am all clear, as I suspected.
Off to jens for 430bhp then before the spring :-)

TDT

4,935 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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isaldiri said:
jcosh said:
Excuse my ignorance, but it was mentioned somewhere about the diff being part of this recall, surely they are two different parts and the original diff will stay in place when the new gearbox is fitted?
The diff is part of the gearbox in the gt4 afaik. new gearbox comes with a new diff. Anyway new diff plates for free, what's not to like about that? biggrin
Exactly.

TDT

4,935 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Porsche911R said:
TDT said:
Cheers. Just popped my VIN in and am all clear, as I suspected.
Off to jens for 430bhp then before the spring :-)
Lol. I need more skill, not more power.

Although I really would like to uncork it.

jcosh

1,172 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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isaldiri said:
jcosh said:
Excuse my ignorance, but it was mentioned somewhere about the diff being part of this recall, surely they are two different parts and the original diff will stay in place when the new gearbox is fitted?
The diff is part of the gearbox in the gt4 afaik. new gearbox comes with a new diff. Anyway new diff plates for free, what's not to like about that? biggrin
Gotcha! Ta. So new 'box and diff all bundled together. What's not to like indeed... Although, there has been nothing wrong with mine in 8k miles.

I do get the drivetrain whine that others have mentioned though. Do 'we' think the new 'box will change this?


jcosh

1,172 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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boxsey said:
tonto1 said:
June 2016 registered car. Waiting to hear back from OPC on plan to sort.
Would be good if you can report back on their estimate of how long they will need the car for. I guess mine will be subject to the recall but with some trips already planned for the very near future, those plans would be ruined if they wanted the car for 4 weeks or more!
OPC told me a day or two's work once they have the 'box in stock.

TDT

4,935 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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jcosh said:
isaldiri said:
jcosh said:
Excuse my ignorance, but it was mentioned somewhere about the diff being part of this recall, surely they are two different parts and the original diff will stay in place when the new gearbox is fitted?
The diff is part of the gearbox in the gt4 afaik. new gearbox comes with a new diff. Anyway new diff plates for free, what's not to like about that? biggrin
Gotcha! Ta. So new 'box and diff all bundled together. What's not to like indeed... Although, there has been nothing wrong with mine in 8k miles.

I do get the drivetrain whine that others have mentioned though. Do 'we' think the new 'box will change this?
I believe it is a ‘feature/characteristic’… but you’ll be able to give us your feedback once you’ve had your box replaced.

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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jcosh said:
boxsey said:
tonto1 said:
June 2016 registered car. Waiting to hear back from OPC on plan to sort.
Would be good if you can report back on their estimate of how long they will need the car for. I guess mine will be subject to the recall but with some trips already planned for the very near future, those plans would be ruined if they wanted the car for 4 weeks or more!
OPC told me a day or two's work once they have the 'box in stock.
Cheers. Sounds like getting the stock might be a potential bottle neck if we all book ours in at once. The last warranty work I had done ended up taking two weeks because of a delay in getting a part from Germany.

ghiblicup

Original Poster:

605 posts

214 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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TDT said:
I believe it is a ‘feature/characteristic’… but you’ll be able to give us your feedback once you’ve had your box replaced.
I’m with TDT on this. When I first had the car I wondered about the noise and went through every ‘in cabin’ review on YouTube just to hear it! It’s part of the car and not a faulty part.

TDT

4,935 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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ghiblicup said:
TDT said:
I believe it is a ‘feature/characteristic’… but you’ll be able to give us your feedback once you’ve had your box replaced.
I’m with TDT on this. When I first had the car I wondered about the noise and went through every ‘in cabin’ review on YouTube just to hear it! It’s part of the car and not a faulty part.
Yep… just do a web search for GT4 transmission whine.… you see a few forum related topics and then a whole bunch of ‘press reviews’ that talk about it, and get all nostalgic.

JayK12

2,324 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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boxsey said:
jcosh said:
boxsey said:
tonto1 said:
June 2016 registered car. Waiting to hear back from OPC on plan to sort.
Would be good if you can report back on their estimate of how long they will need the car for. I guess mine will be subject to the recall but with some trips already planned for the very near future, those plans would be ruined if they wanted the car for 4 weeks or more!
OPC told me a day or two's work once they have the 'box in stock.
Cheers. Sounds like getting the stock might be a potential bottle neck if we all book ours in at once. The last warranty work I had done ended up taking two weeks because of a delay in getting a part from Germany.
See you in SPA Steve biggrin

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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JayK12 said:
See you in SPA Steve biggrin
Are you on our April trip Jay? We've got quite a big contingent going....just hoping we will get out there with it being Brexit weekend and all that!

JayK12

2,324 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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boxsey said:
JayK12 said:
See you in SPA Steve biggrin
Are you on our April trip Jay? We've got quite a big contingent going....just hoping we will get out there with it being Brexit weekend and all that!
Just been texting TDT, who mentioned it. Im gonna rock up and Passenger for the day as its fully booked smile - We will be fine mate...............i hope.

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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JayK12 said:
Just been texting TDT, who mentioned it. Im gonna rock up and Passenger for the day as its fully booked smile - We will be fine mate...............i hope.
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JayK12

2,324 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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boxsey said:
JayK12 said:
Just been texting TDT, who mentioned it. Im gonna rock up and Passenger for the day as its fully booked smile - We will be fine mate...............i hope.
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I just put myself down on the reserve list if any space pop's up.

btw we have to call you Boxset now, according to TDT's autocorrect lol.

dreamtime

5 posts

141 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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The following is my opinion based on 2yrs experience and research of the subjects being talked about on this thread.

The transmission in the GT4's is exactly the same as in any other manual 981 or for that matter 718.

Having had most of the interior out of my GT4 for one reason or another I have seen no evidence that any of the sound proofing is missing. I also cannot find any difference, sound proofing wise, between the Cayman S and GT4 parts manuals. The whine noise is present with the car in neutral and therefore comes from the engine, therefore, if it is true that Porsche issued a bulletin regarding replacing the Oil Separator with a later type, then this might just be the the whine problem The question remains - has anyone had experience of their Oil Separator being changed and the whine being eliminated?

Finally lets not forget this thread is about a transmission recall due to Getrag changing the syncro attachment on 3rd gear from a long proven interference fit spline, to a cheaper substandard weld at the beginning of 2016. Your replacement transmission will be exactly the same as your old transmission other than 3rd gear will revert back to the splined version. This will not make any difference to the whine noise.