The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

[finmac]

Jefferson Steelflex said:

Went all in balls out this morning locking in the spec. Guards red instrument dials and seat belts, it's my car and I want to add some colour.

Salesman said coloured dials were popular, I said we will see about that when we come to discuss a trade-in in a few years.

I took off the summer tyre option, no guarantee of what I'll get and OPC wouldn't be wiling to cover it. I'll stick with Cup 2s.

You might very well end up with Dunlop Sport Maxx not Cups

[TDT]

I really wouldn't worry about it for your first few months of ownership.
Most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference, aside from road noise - and generally are repeating what they've read about grip profile - because they haven't actually tried both.
Either are fine for the road and you'll need quite a few miles to build comfort with the car.
On track, either will last 2-5 track days depending on your own pace and temps etc... so you'll be ready to change out after not that long anyway and by then you'll start to build more of a feel for the car and the performance of the tyres.

Edited by TDT on Monday 8th March 13:41

[ClarkeyDiem]

@cardigan kid: FWIW I think youve got a nice spec there: similar to mine in lots of ways;)
I went "touring spec" after my 981 GT4 with buckets etc
How about a heated steering wheel? Nice touch...
You may want to check that the bordeaux red dials are the same colour as the stitching??
I like the contrast of the red stitching with what is a pretty dark interior. I went for the brushed Al trim as it helps lift the interior and creates horizontal line around the inside.
I was concerned the body colour trim would "scratch" over the years.
Ill post a pic of the interior later.
Im Leics: if you are near, happy for you to come and have a look, PM me.
PS: Cargraphic Valve Controller and youre sorted...

[rthomp25]

Hi,

I am (hopefully) getting a new GT4 in April/May 2021 and have been going through all of the usual configuration options.

I went "touring spec" as well :

http://www.porsche-code.com/PM1JRGH2

Going for the 18-ways, as I have tested the bucket seats and I slide about in them (less in the 18-ways as you can get the side bolsters quite tight),
I know re-sale issues / all the usual downsides / etc, but think I will enjoy it more.

[FTW]

rthomp25 said:

Hi,

I am (hopefully) getting a new GT4 in April/May 2021 and have been going through all of the usual configuration options.

I went "touring spec" as well :

http://www.porsche-code.com/PM1JRGH2

Going for the 18-ways, as I have tested the bucket seats and I slide about in them (less in the 18-ways as you can get the side bolsters quite tight),
I know re-sale issues / all the usual downsides / etc, but think I will enjoy it more.

I'd add a Bose if it's for touring. The standard sound system is woeful for an £80k car.

[diffstar]

rthomp25 said:

Hi,

I am (hopefully) getting a new GT4 in April/May 2021 and have been going through all of the usual configuration options.

I went "touring spec" as well :

http://www.porsche-code.com/PM1JRGH2

Going for the 18-ways, as I have tested the bucket seats and I slide about in them (less in the 18-ways as you can get the side bolsters quite tight),
I know re-sale issues / all the usual downsides / etc, but think I will enjoy it more.

You will never sell it 2nd hand

Without buckets it is worth £15k less than one with! In all seriousness I am not sure a bucket car is even worth the £4k more than you actually paid for the buckets in the first place ….

Lovely car, really like them in black.

[rthomp25]

diffstar said:

You will never sell it 2nd hand

Without buckets it is worth £15k less than one with! In all seriousness I am not sure a bucket car is even worth the £4k more than you actually paid for the buckets in the first place ….

Lovely car, really like them in black.

Ta!

Plan is to hold onto it unless Porsche do a 911 with the 4.0 engine (Non GT).
I know they have said no in the press, but that usually means the opposite! ;-)

[MannyLon]

From what I’ve heard, Bose is poo as well.

[Holgate86]

FTW said:

rthomp25 said:

Hi,

I am (hopefully) getting a new GT4 in April/May 2021 and have been going through all of the usual configuration options.

I went "touring spec" as well :

http://www.porsche-code.com/PM1JRGH2

Going for the 18-ways, as I have tested the bucket seats and I slide about in them (less in the 18-ways as you can get the side bolsters quite tight),
I know re-sale issues / all the usual downsides / etc, but think I will enjoy it more.

I'd add a Bose if it's for touring. The standard sound system is woeful for an £80k car.

Bose is really poor too, you won't be able to hear your tunes for the tyre roar anyway.

[diffstar]

MannyLon said:

From what I’ve heard, Bose is poo as well.

Yes I didn't bother with Bose either, couldn’t really notice any difference between that and standard fit sound plus audio.

On previous Porsche I have owned I think Bose was a fairly desirable option, I don't think that is the case anymore.

Edited by diffstar on Tuesday 9th March 21:57

[rthomp25]

Yes - not bothering with Bose - as don't really use radio/etc much anyway.

[MannyLon]

The GT4 is loud inside the cabin. IMO, that's part of the feel of the car. I only listen to the radio when stationary or cruising

[acey81]

Car is loud (not nearly as loud as the 981 GT4), if you want to listen get a set of headphones. The airpods pro work great and also a lot better for talking on the phone compared to the crappy Bluetooth connection/mic that comes with the car.

[Jefferson Steelflex]

Bose isnt that bad, it gets a bad rep because people often don't configure it properly. It's not the best system out there, and probably not worth £840 but it does have some value if you set it up the right way. Bass low, Treble high, turn surround off (or put it on one of the negative settings) and it sounds ok.

Just my experience.

[EJH]

Jefferson Steelflex said:

Bose isnt that bad, it gets a bad rep because people often don't configure it properly. It's not the best system out there, and probably not worth £840 but it does have some value if you set it up the right way. Bass low, Treble high, turn surround off (or put it on one of the negative settings) and it sounds ok.

Just my experience.

I agree; I was mightily unimpressed when I got the car...but turning surround off made an enormous difference, further refined with tone adjustments.

It's probably not worth £840...but if I specified the car again, I would still tick it as it's a fair compromise; doing anything aftermarket would be better but a multiple of cost.

[mobil1]

av185 said:

mobil1 said:

av185 said:

Sounds like your salesperson is fairly clueless if:

Firstly he/she reckons the PDK will be rarer than the manual. It will be the opposite as was the case with the 991.2. Only a handful of used manual 991.2 GT3s around compared to PDKs especislly good spec cars.

Secondly the GT3 manual is not highly geared. The gearing is perfect. Sounds like they may be confusing it with a 981 GT4 lol.

On the heated seat issue you don't really need heaters on the GT3 it is not a cab but is a fairly 'hot' car in the cabin anyway. Seems odd to spec comforts just to get the heaters when these seats detract from the whole ethos of the car not just because you sit much lower 'in' the buckets rather than 'on' the comforts. You will also get hammered on resale ££ but that may not bother you and each to their own.

I may have misunderstood but I thought we were discussing a cab namely 718 Spyder not a GT3.

Aplogies wrong thread and heavy last night!!

Yes the PDK will be rarer than the manual on the 718 Spyder and GT4. May be an idea to drive a manual 718 Spyder or GT4 if you get the chance (maybe at PEC?) whilst its the same gearbox as the 981 with fairly high ratios this is far less noticeable amd less of an issue in the 718 with its better engine.

Seat comments still apply but to a lesser extent than with the GT3.

You had a great idea there av185. Spent ages trying to contact PEC and eventually got through. They are taking bookings for Aug/Sept! So back to the drawing board. So I'll share my thoughts will you and the other experienced Porsche owners on this forum. I have owned a 991.1 gts with pdk and a 981 cayman s in manual. This will be my first GT car. Thoroughly enjoyed both for different reasons. The pdk was way fast, smooth gear changes and well just seamless and perfect. The manual required more work and I felt was enjoyable for different reasons. Interact/engage with the vehicle a lot more. It was going to be very easy when I expressed my interest in purchasing this new car as the pdk was not available. As I had previously said, the OPC is saying the pdk will be a rare car and worth more in the future especially if this is the last run of these cars. However, the inner me says that a vehicle that was designed as a stripped out lighter car - manual roof, fabric handles and a manual gearbox was made this way for a reason - driver engagement. I just feel that the pdk will take away that enjoyment/excitement of interacting with the car, roof down in the July sunshine - hopefully! Not interested in the 0.5s quicker 0-60 etc. Car is way quick anyway. Maybe Porsche are just bowing down to the bean counters and offering pdk for this reason? I'm totally confused.com on this one! These are just my thoughts and I do not wish to start a pdk vs manual debate! With the seats issue, I am leaning towards standard but not ruled out the buckets. I will wait until 12 April to visit my local OPC to sit in them for a while to see how comfortable/uncomfortable they are. The standard are heated but as the other half has reminded me, I am hardly going to be using the car in the winter months. I know that some people have said it may be an issue come sale time but is the vehicle really going to be marked down by £4k+ for the seats as that's how much the buckets are?

I have a question on the leather dashboard stitching and the seatbelts. I have selected the platinum interior stitch. To match the platinum stitch does anyone know whether I select the GT Silver for the dashboard leather interior and the seatbelts? The other options are pebble grey and crayon - as well as blue/green etc which do not apply to my config. I wanted to stay with the standard seatbelts but other half says it will be good to select this option as the door pull will be silver/grey and cannot be changed.

[Twinfan]

mobil1 said:

I have a question on the leather dashboard stitching and the seatbelts. I have selected the platinum interior stitch. To match the platinum stitch does anyone know whether I select the GT Silver for the dashboard leather interior and the seatbelts? The other options are pebble grey and crayon - as well as blue/green etc which do not apply to my config. I wanted to stay with the standard seatbelts but other half says it will be good to select this option as the door pull will be silver/grey and cannot be changed.

The new configurator features are a pain, you didn't used to have to select a colour when choosing options. I guess it's so you can mix things up if you want to but that would look a bit rubbish IMHO.

As the general package stitching colour is "silver" surely "GT silver" needs to be selected for the stitching on any options that require it and also for the seatbelts if you want everything to match? Your OPC should be able to check with Porsche if it should be Crayon or Pebble Grey, but I'd suprised if it is.

[av185]

Just to add on what Ts said just be wary about the imo needless and expensive additional stitching option which gives you an additional line of stitching adjoining the base of the windscreen also extending onto the end sections of the dash only visible when the doors are open. Seem to recollect this is an additional c£1250 but the major problem with it is it causes reflection in the screen esp in lighter colours.

Re the buckets this subject has really been done to death but you would always get back the extra bucket seat option cost new ££ and more on resale both of a GT4 and Spyder but it really is more of case which seat is best for you what you are using the car for and how long you intend to keep the car for. Good idea to try the different seats at your OPC preferably with a test drive when they reopen in April.

[Twinfan]

av185 said:

Just to add on what Ts said just be wary about the imo needless and expensive additional stitching option which gives you an additional line of stitching adjoining the base of the windscreen also extending onto the end sections of the dash only visible when the doors are open. Seem to recollect this is an additional c£1250 but the major problem with it is it causes reflection in the screen esp in lighter colours.

I have all such "needless and expensive additional stitching" options on my full-on yellow GT4 and while they do reflect in the windscreen I don't notice it when driving. I'm usually concentrating more on other things, such as actually driving

My aim was to replace any plastic surfaces that I could with leather and to have maximum yellow stitching in order to make the car as special as possible. It worked for me but as with all these things YMMV of course

[mobil1]

Twinfan said:

av185 said:

Just to add on what Ts said just be wary about the imo needless and expensive additional stitching option which gives you an additional line of stitching adjoining the base of the windscreen also extending onto the end sections of the dash only visible when the doors are open. Seem to recollect this is an additional c£1250 but the major problem with it is it causes reflection in the screen esp in lighter colours.

I have all such "needless and expensive additional stitching" options on my full-on yellow GT4 and while they do reflect in the windscreen I don't notice it when driving. I'm usually concentrating more on other things, such as actually driving

My aim was to replace any plastic surfaces that I could with leather and to have maximum yellow stitching in order to make the car as special as possible. It worked for me but as with all these things YMMV of course

Thank you for the comments. My intention was the same as Ts funnily enough, ie. to make the car as special as possible. Funny thing about the reflections is that you can see the heat air vents reflected onto the glass - certainly on my Golf GTi you can. Look for it and it will be there! I guess I need to do the appropriate thing and share my build code for any feedback. This is PMZ7Z9L6. This is what I have on the Porsche system. The items still up for change are the silver seat belts, manual, bucket seats. If I do spec the buckets I will likely change the door trim to carbon from silver. Once again, probably a total waste of money but just want to make it a special as possible with speccing everything!