GT4 RS breaks cover then...

[Twinfan]

Those painted key covers chip dead easily, and not eveyrone looks after their keys, so I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Replacement covers in whatever style you choose are easily available on eBay, Amazon etc.

[Armitage.Shanks]

Twinfan said:

Those painted key covers chip dead easily, and not eveyrone looks after their keys, so I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Replacement covers in whatever style you choose are easily available on eBay, Amazon etc.

When I wanted a painted key the salesman at OPC said it was better buying a cheap Chinese one off eBay instead of paying c£120. I did for less than a fiver and it's spot on.

[Twinfan]

Yep, I've had the genuine Porsche painted one and they're no better than the cheap ones for not getting chipped!

[User404notfound]

https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/porsche-718-cayma...

[julian987R]

another GT4RS for sale, already specced, not a slot as such.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Surprised the overs are that high.

[julian987R]

philj said:

julian987R said:

another GT4RS for sale, already specced, not a slot as such.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Surprised the overs are that high.

That’s about £70k over list isn’t it? If so, why the surprise at it being so high? It’s roughly in line with GT3 overs?

Didn’t you say a few months back these would be selling for £200k over list price?

Indeed I did hence my surprise the overs are much lower. I was no doubt in cuckoo land then.
It has been a short lived buzz on the GT4RS. It has become yesterdays news so fast.

[fridaypassion]

That car is for sale in France. Is there normally any kind of overs market in Europe? I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity. So 70k over in France is probably pretty exceptional.

[mep59]

fridaypassion said:

I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.

That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael

[First Sea Lord]

mep59 said:

fridaypassion said:

I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.

That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael

Same in Germany

[isaldiri]

First Sea Lord said:

mep59 said:

fridaypassion said:

I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.

That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael

Same in Germany

Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........

[mep59]

isaldiri said:

Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........

It may be easier - but I know for a fact that my OPC had three orders for a GT4 in December, and were only able to get one of them, and are at the moment unsure that they will get any more build slots this year.

Of course the global chip shortage + war in Ukraine aren't helping...

Michael

[skidskid]

When you say Europe if very much depends on which country you mean. I live in Austria now and just because there are so few people here its easier to get things but its still tough. There are less people living in Austria than in London so the pool of people in the market for cars is smaller but you still need to have a good relationship with your OPC. I at my OPC yesterday specing a normal run model and in general allocations and lead times are a bit better than the UK.

[ChrisW.]

isaldiri said:

Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........

When your local OPC won't even accept your specification as an order ... for delivery at any date, how will that person ever get one ?

So you either ferret around all OPC's to see if any will accept an order, or stop giving the regular business that you have previously placed to your local dealer and try another ?

Or step out of the brand ... or step back into classics ...

I don't see how Porsche wins in this rudeness .... nobody will buy a 944 Turbo Cup because they have seen and / or had a track ride in mine because there just aren't any ... but I'm sure I've sold a good few GT4's for Porsche ...

[WCZ]

the RHD overs will be double what the LHD overs are

it's annoying how expensive a RHD conversion would be

[gbrown2014]

ChrisW. said:

When your local OPC won't even accept your specification as an order ... for delivery at any date, how will that person ever get one ?

So you either ferret around all OPC's to see if any will accept an order, or stop giving the regular business that you have previously placed to your local dealer and try another ?

Or step out of the brand ... or step back into classics ...

I don't see how Porsche wins in this rudeness .... nobody will buy a 944 Turbo Cup because they have seen and / or had a track ride in mine because there just aren't any ... but I'm sure I've sold a good few GT4's for Porsche ...

For me personally its having an effect, ten years ago I was excited to see the new GT cars and try and get an allocation, but with the latest releases I havent even bothered, you cant even get hold of cooking models these days.

I cant be the only one whos grown tired of the BS

[First Sea Lord]

isaldiri said:

First Sea Lord said:

mep59 said:

fridaypassion said:

I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.

That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael

Same in Germany

Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........

Don't know the detail, but when I was discussing GT3 availability here, I asked my German friend who's bought similar number of Porsches from his local dealer. Very similar situation. Very limited availability. Previous buying relationship with dealer required + long lead time.

All a bit general, but we sensed it was broadly the same situation in DE / UK.

[TDT]

Apart from the fact that it isn’t, lol.

But if a weird review really, IMO….

Track optimised car, driven on b-road …. Too tough for the road….

[paralla]

Surface transform disks apparently half the cost of replacement PCCB’s (but double the cost of the PCCB option on a new GT4) is a bit misleading.

[julian987R]

i have deleted the link as on reflection it is one of Catchpole's worst features ever. He is not on form, the car is not on form, the whole video is rubbish.

[Twinfan]

Not a great video was it?

Converting a comfort spec car to Clubsport is a good option? Are you having a laugh? Try getting a pair of 918-style bucket seats on their own, and even if you can they're going to be £10k+ surely. Add the cost of the cage and harnesses, plus fitting, and you're at what - £15k+? CS cars don't command that premium so you're better off waiting for one to come up for sale.

As TDT says, testing out an MR car on UK roads when they're track focussed is a bit strange and even the gearing changes aren't great due to the very long overdrive sixth. That particular exhaust sounds like a waste of money too - £3k and you can hardly tell the difference? Why bother then?

For regular or heavy track use, I'd say a regular PDK GT4 CS with steels and upgraded pads/fluid will get you 95%+ of the way there. You've got to really love the Cayman platform to throw £40k at it when you could get into a 991.2 GT3 for not much more...