GT4 RS breaks cover then...

GT4 RS breaks cover then...

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Twinfan

9,273 posts

83 months

Monday 11th April
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Those painted key covers chip dead easily, and not eveyrone looks after their keys, so I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Replacement covers in whatever style you choose are easily available on eBay, Amazon etc.

Armitage.Shanks

1,374 posts

64 months

Monday 11th April
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Twinfan said:
Those painted key covers chip dead easily, and not eveyrone looks after their keys, so I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Replacement covers in whatever style you choose are easily available on eBay, Amazon etc.
When I wanted a painted key the salesman at OPC said it was better buying a cheap Chinese one off eBay instead of paying c£120. I did for less than a fiver and it's spot on.

Twinfan

9,273 posts

83 months

Monday 11th April
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Yep, I've had the genuine Porsche painted one and they're no better than the cheap ones for not getting chipped!

julian987R

3,592 posts

38 months

Monday 2nd May
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another GT4RS for sale, already specced, not a slot as such.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Surprised the overs are that high.

julian987R

3,592 posts

38 months

Monday 2nd May
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philj said:
julian987R said:
another GT4RS for sale, already specced, not a slot as such.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Surprised the overs are that high.
That’s about £70k over list isn’t it? If so, why the surprise at it being so high? It’s roughly in line with GT3 overs?

Didn’t you say a few months back these would be selling for £200k over list price?
Indeed I did hence my surprise the overs are much lower. I was no doubt in cuckoo land then.
It has been a short lived buzz on the GT4RS. It has become yesterdays news so fast.






fridaypassion

6,330 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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That car is for sale in France. Is there normally any kind of overs market in Europe? I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity. So 70k over in France is probably pretty exceptional.

mep59

22 posts

96 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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fridaypassion said:
I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.
That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael

First Sea Lord

808 posts

158 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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mep59 said:
fridaypassion said:
I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.
That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael
Same in Germany

isaldiri

15,058 posts

147 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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First Sea Lord said:
mep59 said:
fridaypassion said:
I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.
That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael
Same in Germany
Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........

mep59

22 posts

96 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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isaldiri said:
Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........
It may be easier - but I know for a fact that my OPC had three orders for a GT4 in December, and were only able to get one of them, and are at the moment unsure that they will get any more build slots this year.

Of course the global chip shortage + war in Ukraine aren't helping...

Michael

skidskid

217 posts

120 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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When you say Europe if very much depends on which country you mean. I live in Austria now and just because there are so few people here its easier to get things but its still tough. There are less people living in Austria than in London so the pool of people in the market for cars is smaller but you still need to have a good relationship with your OPC. I at my OPC yesterday specing a normal run model and in general allocations and lead times are a bit better than the UK.

ChrisW.

4,545 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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isaldiri said:
Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........
When your local OPC won't even accept your specification as an order ... for delivery at any date, how will that person ever get one ?

So you either ferret around all OPC's to see if any will accept an order, or stop giving the regular business that you have previously placed to your local dealer and try another ?

Or step out of the brand ... or step back into classics ...

I don't see how Porsche wins in this rudeness .... nobody will buy a 944 Turbo Cup because they have seen and / or had a track ride in mine because there just aren't any ... but I'm sure I've sold a good few GT4's for Porsche ...

WCZ

9,406 posts

173 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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the RHD overs will be double what the LHD overs are

it's annoying how expensive a RHD conversion would be

gbrown2014

191 posts

92 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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ChrisW. said:
When your local OPC won't even accept your specification as an order ... for delivery at any date, how will that person ever get one ?

So you either ferret around all OPC's to see if any will accept an order, or stop giving the regular business that you have previously placed to your local dealer and try another ?

Or step out of the brand ... or step back into classics ...

I don't see how Porsche wins in this rudeness .... nobody will buy a 944 Turbo Cup because they have seen and / or had a track ride in mine because there just aren't any ... but I'm sure I've sold a good few GT4's for Porsche ...
For me personally its having an effect, ten years ago I was excited to see the new GT cars and try and get an allocation, but with the latest releases I havent even bothered, you cant even get hold of cooking models these days.

I cant be the only one whos grown tired of the BS

First Sea Lord

808 posts

158 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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isaldiri said:
First Sea Lord said:
mep59 said:
fridaypassion said:
I understand you can normally just buy a GT car over the water as if its just a normal car and its just us idiots in the UK and US that indulge in the stupidity.
That's a myth.... I'm in Switzerland, and you definitely won't be able to get a GT4RS unless you have a very good relationship with your OPC. It might be a bit easier for a normal GT4, but it's not like you can walk in to the dealership, say you want a GT4 and get a build slot...

Michael
Same in Germany
Isn't it more a case of not being able to get a very early car in Europe ie first couple of deliveries but later as more allocations come through (and previously they always have) it's much easier? That was the case with the 991.1rs and 991.2gt3 over there for example.

Unlike here where one has mostly no chance of an early GT car unless a rather favoured customer and a pretty damn minimal chance later........
Don't know the detail, but when I was discussing GT3 availability here, I asked my German friend who's bought similar number of Porsches from his local dealer. Very similar situation. Very limited availability. Previous buying relationship with dealer required + long lead time.

All a bit general, but we sensed it was broadly the same situation in DE / UK.

TDT

3,577 posts

98 months

Friday 6th May
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Apart from the fact that it isn’t, lol.

But if a weird review really, IMO….

Track optimised car, driven on b-road …. Too tough for the road….

paralla

3,016 posts

114 months

Friday 6th May
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Surface transform disks apparently half the cost of replacement PCCB’s (but double the cost of the PCCB option on a new GT4) is a bit misleading.

julian987R

3,592 posts

38 months

Friday 6th May
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i have deleted the link as on reflection it is one of Catchpole's worst features ever. He is not on form, the car is not on form, the whole video is rubbish.

Twinfan

9,273 posts

83 months

Saturday 7th May
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Not a great video was it?

Converting a comfort spec car to Clubsport is a good option? Are you having a laugh? Try getting a pair of 918-style bucket seats on their own, and even if you can they're going to be £10k+ surely. Add the cost of the cage and harnesses, plus fitting, and you're at what - £15k+? CS cars don't command that premium so you're better off waiting for one to come up for sale.

As TDT says, testing out an MR car on UK roads when they're track focussed is a bit strange and even the gearing changes aren't great due to the very long overdrive sixth. That particular exhaust sounds like a waste of money too - £3k and you can hardly tell the difference? Why bother then?

For regular or heavy track use, I'd say a regular PDK GT4 CS with steels and upgraded pads/fluid will get you 95%+ of the way there. You've got to really love the Cayman platform to throw £40k at it when you could get into a 991.2 GT3 for not much more...