GT4 RS breaks cover then...

GT4 RS breaks cover then...

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Jim1556

1,756 posts

138 months

Thursday 1st September
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A friend an i were at an OPC yesterday and were told all GT products are now pretty much invitation only and deposits were non refundable. Also that someone dropped £1.4m to get on the list for a GT3 RS.

Ludicrous! I wish Porsche would just make more, but I get the 'you can't have one' policy as it makes more 'want... rolleyes

donutskidmark

1,016 posts

135 months

Thursday 1st September
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I think Porsche are now in the same boat as Rolex-
they have to strangle supply in order to maintain
perception of brand prestige etc.
There’s a cost of living crisis- there may not be a huge queue
of people waiting to drop £160,000 on a new GT3 despite
what the OPC would like you to think.
Wasn’t it Enzo Ferrari who said make one less car than you can sell?
If you saw a steel Daytona in a window at list price you’d run in and buy it.
If you now got offered a Gt4RS allocation you’d take it-
but if you could phone up today and order one there’s a good chance you wouldn’t order it- ‘cause it would depreciate 20 grand when you drove home.

CloudStuff

3,241 posts

86 months

Thursday 1st September
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seawise said:
CloudStuff said:
Ultimately, all these cars belong to Bunker Group, and JWW is a brand of BG too.

I enjoy the 'content :-)'
I just find it so depressing to see Porsche GB policy for allocations which enables a second rate you tuber repeated offers of the limited run cars over long standing loyal GT series customers.

To be frank i feel inclined to turn down an allocation now if offered one in 2023, it just really really grates.
Indeed.

And my only, small and pathetic, way of protesting my objecitons to this state of affairs was to spec up a 992 GT3 and send it to Porsche Xxx (JWW's OPC) for them to contact me.

Their pompous response was almost enjoyable.


Edited by CloudStuff on Thursday 1st September 16:56

guyvert1

1,645 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st September
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Ha, come on, share the response smile

Olderandwiser22

148 posts

73 months

Thursday 1st September
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I have asked my pic about availability and didn’t receive a direct “no” response…

Watch this space.

seawise

1,992 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st September
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donutskidmark said:
but if you could phone up today and order one there’s a good chance you wouldn’t order it- ‘cause it would depreciate 20 grand when you drove home.
There are plenty of long standing customers who used to order new GT cars when they depreciated 20k the moment they took delivery. Those are the customers, in my humble opinion, who should be shown a little more respect and be more likely to get an allocation that some idiot who is in the game to create 'content'. I have no problem with the business case of having to look after those relatively new customers who order lots of mainstream Porsche product, but the long standing enthusiast customers (a few of whom reside or used to reside here) no longer get a look in, and that i find deeply unattractive.

I agree that demand would ease considerably if supply was boosted, but the customers who remained after the bubble burst would be the same ones who have always supported the brand (back in the day when Porsche as a company were struggling), and those are the people hurt the most by this mindless policy of supporting social media content creators with allocations.

Anyway, whatever. I'll just continue to enjoy their back catalogue.

seawise

1,992 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st September
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donutskidmark said:
JWW can talk about the car for an hour and never even
mention the mechanics or performance- but talk at length about why he chose a certain colour exterior and show off the carbon door sills, it’s just utter floss but I guess someone is interested for some reason.
Thanks, i wasn't intending to watch it, but now i am doubly sure not to bother !

CloudStuff

3,241 posts

86 months

Thursday 1st September
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guyvert1 said:
Ha, come on, share the response smile
Here you go. Was it childish of me to even try? Probably yes.

“Good Morning Mr Stuff,



Many thanks for taking the time to submit a Porsche Code for the newly released 992 GT3.



Whilst we respect your intention to purchase one of these cars, I’m sure you will be aware that this profile of car is a limited production run which is supplied in staggeringly low numbers of allocation. 



At Porsche Centre Xxx, we allocate these cars with a great deal of care and consideration, whilst ensuring that we only consider customer who we have an current purchase relationship with.



On that basis, I’m afraid we would be unable to consider you for an allocation.



We would like to thank you again for reaching out and wish you a fantastic 2021.”

freedman

4,777 posts

189 months

Thursday 1st September
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Escy said:
Nah, Rubystone is all hype. You don't often see similar colours from other manufacturers because nobody wants it.
WTF do other manufacturers have to do with it?

No hype, it’s just a classic colour

julian987R

4,529 posts

41 months

Thursday 1st September
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freedman said:
Escy said:
Nah, Rubystone is all hype. You don't often see similar colours from other manufacturers because nobody wants it.
WTF do other manufacturers have to do with it?

No hype, it’s just a classic colour
After watching the video I agree with him that Rubystone just does not look good on it, in my opinion. The colour of it, like Aventurine Green, seems to differ to the original versions.

23wn_4f2

81 posts

37 months

Thursday 1st September
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As with all PTS/individual colours, you have to see them in the flesh and decide whether you like them or not. Some will, some won't.

Rubystar was on the Porsche GB GT3 car for over a year now and I can't quite believe JWW hasn't seen it in the flesh. It only looks bright pink in direct sunshine which in the UK, isn't very often, otherwise it can look like a deep red wine under different conditions

julian987R

4,529 posts

41 months

Thursday 1st September
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23wn_4f2 said:
As with all PTS/individual colours, you have to see them in the flesh and decide whether you like them or not. Some will, some won't.

Rubystar was on the Porsche GB GT3 car for over a year now and I can't quite believe JWW hasn't seen it in the flesh. It only looks bright pink in direct sunshine which in the UK, isn't very often, otherwise it can look like a deep red wine under different conditions
not sure about that…the pigment and colour just did not look correct.

TDT

3,695 posts

101 months

Thursday 1st September
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@Julian… this guy would know. Trust me.

julian987R

4,529 posts

41 months

Thursday 1st September
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TDT said:
@Julian… this guy would know. Trust me.
thumbup

J-P

4,201 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd September
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seawise said:
donutskidmark said:
but if you could phone up today and order one there’s a good chance you wouldn’t order it- ‘cause it would depreciate 20 grand when you drove home.
There are plenty of long standing customers who used to order new GT cars when they depreciated 20k the moment they took delivery. Those are the customers, in my humble opinion, who should be shown a little more respect and be more likely to get an allocation that some idiot who is in the game to create 'content'. I have no problem with the business case of having to look after those relatively new customers who order lots of mainstream Porsche product, but the long standing enthusiast customers (a few of whom reside or used to reside here) no longer get a look in, and that i find deeply unattractive.

I agree that demand would ease considerably if supply was boosted, but the customers who remained after the bubble burst would be the same ones who have always supported the brand (back in the day when Porsche as a company were struggling), and those are the people hurt the most by this mindless policy of supporting social media content creators with allocations.

Anyway, whatever. I'll just continue to enjoy their back catalogue.
Totally agree, Seawise.

P. ONeill

482 posts

34 months

Friday 2nd September
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If I could order a GT4RS depreciation wouldn’t come in to the equation. They couldn’t take my money fast enough. Unfortunately it will never happen.

J-P

4,201 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd September
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P. ONeill said:
If I could order a GT4RS depreciation wouldn’t come in to the equation. They couldn’t take my money fast enough. Unfortunately it will never happen.
Exactly...

david-j8694

474 posts

30 months

Friday 2nd September
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dashobbit said:
Yep, you’ve wasted a car

I assume you dont realise I own a GT car, and would happily buy an RS and add the MR kit, if only I could get one …

Now for the banter trail…

Incidentally hard work isn’t correlated with income

You didn’t pick your genes, your hormones, your parents, or your education, or to be born into the western world. Nothing about you that you can control determines your hormonal response to intrinsic or extrinsic factors

So whether you do or don’t work hard, it’s nowt to do with you, as you don’t choose how your synapses fire

Now you’ve had the realisation you’re nothing but a bunch of reactions firing that you can’t control, don’t let that ruin your commute into central … at a snails pace. At least you’re in a totally unsuitable car for the job

By your own reckoning, if you worked harder you could get someone to drive you in and then save the GT3 for poodling round tracks at the weekends?

Believe me … not jealous of the lifestyle you’ve just depicted there. I can only hope you don’t have a mortgage or any debt too, cuz that just means more days travelling into big smoke for you, in a car wholly unsuited to the job….

Chill out eh. It’s just an opinion, and one I’m yet to really see anyone counter with anything other than a strawman

When everyone’s response to, “what car?” Is simply, “the rarest one” then at least the comments would be consistent
Slightly contradicted yourself there: the second bit is true, but the first bit isn't. Long term success is heavily correlated with IQ and the big 5 personality trait of conscientiousness; the latter being a strong indicator of a person's proclivity for industriousness or "hard work", as you say.

But yes, the degree to which you have control over any of these is likely minimal. As hard as that is to accept.

GRD_72

104 posts

41 months

Friday 2nd September
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freedman said:
WTF do other manufacturers have to do with it?

No hype, it’s just a classic colour
Agreed it's a classic colour, it worked brilliantly in the past and there it should remain. JWW lost my interest quite some time ago, his channel is more fly on the wall rich kid vlog as opposed to something actually about cars.

ChrisW.

4,655 posts

237 months

Friday 2nd September
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My OPC came up with great piece of logic ...

1. The people who are getting the halo cars have lost a lot of money buying and selling cars they didn't want.

2. It is therefore only fair that those who aren't allocated the halo cars should pay an equivalent amount over list ... to get them.

I see his point, but I don't see the point ... when there are so many other really nice cars around ...