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130R said:
DJMC said:
Will be frustrating to drive on the road - too much power.
It won't have too much power at all and that's not what this car is designed for anyway. It's for driving on track. Only driving it on the road is completely missing the point.boxsey said:
+1 and unfortunately, such is the way that they get 'allocated' now, too many of them will end up in the hands of those that will never take them on track!
It's the same for all GT cars - see the recent GT3 and GT3RS threads. Understandable in some ways I guess given the prices we're now talking about and the fights to actually get hold of a new one.
boxsey said:
+1 and unfortunately, such is the way that they get 'allocated' now, too many of them will end up in the hands of those that will never take them on track!
But the relatively hard cars to get like the 3rs and even the 2rs are relatively often seen in track. Certainly comparing the numbers delivered to those seen on track, my impression is that there's a higher % of those cars properly used than the rather more common gt3....Maybe my perspective has changed but a i still can't see how a GT4 RS coming in at probs 1400kg is designed for track, its designed for road and some track. If it was designed for track only it would be a Clubsport race car. All RS cars are road cars which are more capable on track than there GT counter part. I'd go for a Lotus Exige 380 if I was a track rat that wanted a road legal car.
All just my opinion of course.
All just my opinion of course.
JayK12 said:
Maybe my perspective has changed but a i still can't see how a GT4 RS coming in at probs 1400kg is designed for track, its designed for road and some track. If it was designed for track only it would be a Clubsport race car. All RS cars are road cars which are more capable on track than there GT counter part. I'd go for a Lotus Exige 380 if I was a track rat that wanted a road legal car.
All just my opinion of course.
+1. This RS or GT = 'race car' thing is nonsensical. All just my opinion of course.
JayK12 said:
Maybe my perspective has changed but a i still can't see how a GT4 RS coming in at probs 1400kg is designed for track, its designed for road and some track. If it was designed for track only it would be a Clubsport race car. All RS cars are road cars which are more capable on track than there GT counter part. I'd go for a Lotus Exige 380 if I was a track rat that wanted a road legal car.
All just my opinion of course.
Yes road legal and track, not a race car. Why would an Exige 380 be more capable on track just because it is lighter though? An Exige is lighter than a GT3 RS as well but it can't keep pace with one on bigger circuits.All just my opinion of course.
JayK12 said:
Maybe my perspective has changed but a i still can't see how a GT4 RS coming in at probs 1400kg is designed for track, its designed for road and some track. If it was designed for track only it would be a Clubsport race car. All RS cars are road cars which are more capable on track than there GT counter part. I'd go for a Lotus Exige 380 if I was a track rat that wanted a road legal car.
All just my opinion of course.
380 is a bit slow on track, high C of G from that fat engine and heat soke sadly....All just my opinion of course.
even the 430Cups are not posting fast times because that engines just stuck up way too high in the chassis.
I do a agree that some thing like a 410 Sport is more a fun car to drive though on the road than any Porker.
But come track a stock GT3 will be flashing you over !!!
isaldiri said:
+1. This RS or GT = 'race car' thing is nonsensical.
monoballs and downforce is race car, it's not needed on the road.OK so it's not a GT3R but that cannot go on the road !
RS products really are made for track these days more than road use.
If you don't track like myself any longer and want a focused Sports car for fun then a manual GT3 offers that and will still wip any lotus road car ever made on track.
GT2 RS beats 991.2 Cup car
https://youtu.be/kqsp_kEI9zI
130R said:
JayK12 said:
Maybe my perspective has changed but a i still can't see how a GT4 RS coming in at probs 1400kg is designed for track, its designed for road and some track. If it was designed for track only it would be a Clubsport race car. All RS cars are road cars which are more capable on track than there GT counter part. I'd go for a Lotus Exige 380 if I was a track rat that wanted a road legal car.
All just my opinion of course.
Yes road legal and track, not a race car. Why would an Exige 380 be more capable on track just because it is lighter though? An Exige is lighter than a GT3 RS as well but it can't keep pace with one on bigger circuits.All just my opinion of course.
I said that's what i would go for compared to a GT4 or GT4 RS or looking at the prices of the Porsche you could go Exige 410 which is probably a better comparison, and yes its circa 400kg less, i find lighter cars more fun generally on track.
I also didn't compare an Exige with a GT3 RS.
JayK12 said:
I didn't say it would be more capable, I was passing opinion to some comments made here saying the GT4 RS will be designed for track which i think is incorrect. Designed for road, tweaked for track.
I said that's what i would go for compared to a GT4 or GT4 RS or looking at the prices of the Porsche you could go Exige 410 which is probably a better comparison, and yes its circa 400kg less, i find lighter cars more fun generally on track.
I also didn't compare an Exige with a GT3 RS.
BAC mono ;-)I said that's what i would go for compared to a GT4 or GT4 RS or looking at the prices of the Porsche you could go Exige 410 which is probably a better comparison, and yes its circa 400kg less, i find lighter cars more fun generally on track.
I also didn't compare an Exige with a GT3 RS.
Exiges are road cars also.
Porsche911R said:
monoballs and downforce is race car, it's not needed on the road.
Slick tyres is 'race car'. With air jacks. And a full cage and halo seat. When a road going RS has them perhaps I might think you finally have a point. Porsche911R said:
Wow....big deal. I can find you any number of other tracks where the cup car will obliterate a 2rs. And it doesn't mean one car is or isn't a race car because it may or may not be quicker than one!Porsche911R said:
JayK12 said:
Maybe my perspective has changed but a i still can't see how a GT4 RS coming in at probs 1400kg is designed for track, its designed for road and some track. If it was designed for track only it would be a Clubsport race car. All RS cars are road cars which are more capable on track than there GT counter part. I'd go for a Lotus Exige 380 if I was a track rat that wanted a road legal car.
All just my opinion of course.
380 is a bit slow on track, high C of G from that fat engine and heat soke sadly....All just my opinion of course.
even the 430Cups are not posting fast times because that engines just stuck up way too high in the chassis.
I do a agree that some thing like a 410 Sport is more a fun car to drive though on the road than any Porker.
But come track a stock GT3 will be flashing you over !!!
I'd go Exige as in my opinion is would be a more fun car, I don't mind letting cars past on track as I'm not there racing.
Had a great 3 lap battle with a 458 Challenge race car on slick last month a Silverstone, best track moment even't I've ever had. His car was heavier, more powerful and cost alot more. There is a balance to everything, a 380 sport at 60K is a great buy for a track rat who needs a road legal car to get to and from track, but yes it is still a road car.
Edited by JayK12 on Thursday 12th September 14:40
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