Anyone else bored with Tesla drivers 'racing' them?
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For those who don’t think EV’s can be fun to drive, drive one before passing judgement. I’m not an EV owner or apologist and agree with the argument that they lack character but having driven a few, including an iPace and a Taycan, I had a lot of fun. Instant torque and a low centre of gravity make them very effective ‘point and squirters’. I am not going to trade my 992 for a Taycan but that’s only because I like the sound of a flat 6 not because the Taycan isn’t fun. The Tesla 3 gets excellent reviews for the way it drives (and it’s stereo!).
cervezaman said:
I got overtaken by a Nissan Leaf while driving my 992 the other week on a B road taking the kids to school!! I was amazed by their audacity as I wasn’t going that slow (55 ish) !! Does that count?
That's a Give Up And Sell The 992 moment, I'm afraid! You know that the driver was a parent of one of the kids at the school, too, so your kids will get constant abuse now!NicG said:
For those who don’t think EV’s can be fun to drive, drive one before passing judgement. I’m not an EV owner or apologist and agree with the argument that they lack character but having driven a few, including an iPace and a Taycan, I had a lot of fun. Instant torque and a low centre of gravity make them very effective ‘point and squirters’. I am not going to trade my 992 for a Taycan but that’s only because I like the sound of a flat 6 not because the Taycan isn’t fun. The Tesla 3 gets excellent reviews for the way it drives (and it’s stereo!).
Well saidThe powerful big saloon cars of any era are typically faster than the sports cars.
Bigger RS/AMG/M type things have always been able to leave a 986/7/8/2 off the lights.
Some are now electric, but attract similar behaviour.
My Dad used to feel smug when he could outdrag ‘Silly little sports cars’ in his big powerful Zephur Six.
Bigger RS/AMG/M type things have always been able to leave a 986/7/8/2 off the lights.
Some are now electric, but attract similar behaviour.
My Dad used to feel smug when he could outdrag ‘Silly little sports cars’ in his big powerful Zephur Six.
Red 5 said:
The powerful big saloon cars of any era are typically faster than the sports cars.
Bigger RS/AMG/M type things have always been able to leave a 986/7/8/2 off the lights.
Some are now electric, but attract similar behaviour.
My Dad used to feel smug when he could outdrag ‘Silly little sports cars’ in his big powerful Zephur Six.
Thats odd, a 1972 Zephyr 6 with about 71hp max and 1200kg against the ubiquitous 1972 MGB with about 95 hp max and 1100kgs ?Bigger RS/AMG/M type things have always been able to leave a 986/7/8/2 off the lights.
Some are now electric, but attract similar behaviour.
My Dad used to feel smug when he could outdrag ‘Silly little sports cars’ in his big powerful Zephur Six.
Gary C said:
Red 5 said:
The powerful big saloon cars of any era are typically faster than the sports cars.
Bigger RS/AMG/M type things have always been able to leave a 986/7/8/2 off the lights.
Some are now electric, but attract similar behaviour.
My Dad used to feel smug when he could outdrag ‘Silly little sports cars’ in his big powerful Zephur Six.
Thats odd, a 1972 Zephyr 6 with about 71hp max and 1200kg against the ubiquitous 1972 MGB with about 95 hp max and 1100kgs ?Bigger RS/AMG/M type things have always been able to leave a 986/7/8/2 off the lights.
Some are now electric, but attract similar behaviour.
My Dad used to feel smug when he could outdrag ‘Silly little sports cars’ in his big powerful Zephur Six.
He had that and some Jag saloons too, so I could be muddling up my stories
Zetec-S said:
No different to ICE vehicles really. 30 years ago you'd be hard pushed to imagine a Golf with 300bhp+, now everyone* has something equivalent.
I think the "danger" will be when EV's become so commonplace that your average family car has huge amounts of torque on standby. At the moment if I catch up with someone plodding along at 40-50mph in a NSL I know my Focus ST has enough grunt to get quickly past, even if they're the sort of throbbing Road Captain who will try to speed up and prevent the overtake. In a few years time I might still have the power to get past but would end up at much higher speeds to do it.
* ok, maybe not quite everyone, but it's not exactly unusual
I think that's the point... there will be some horrendous TL GP incidents in next couple of years when it's so easy for idiots to reach 100 in just a few seconds in their EV... to prove what?I think the "danger" will be when EV's become so commonplace that your average family car has huge amounts of torque on standby. At the moment if I catch up with someone plodding along at 40-50mph in a NSL I know my Focus ST has enough grunt to get quickly past, even if they're the sort of throbbing Road Captain who will try to speed up and prevent the overtake. In a few years time I might still have the power to get past but would end up at much higher speeds to do it.
* ok, maybe not quite everyone, but it's not exactly unusual
I don't want to be near anyone else's accident, so deliberately set off 1s behind any suspected EV warrior. In any case, the time to get by is when they've settled down to 50 mph cruise to maintain their range...
MG Ant said:
I think that's the point... there will be some horrendous TL GP incidents in next couple of years when it's so easy for idiots to reach 100 in just a few seconds in their EV... to prove what?
I don't want to be near anyone else's accident, so deliberately set off 1s behind any suspected EV warrior. In any case, the time to get by is when they've settled down to 50 mph cruise to maintain their range...
There's truth in this.I don't want to be near anyone else's accident, so deliberately set off 1s behind any suspected EV warrior. In any case, the time to get by is when they've settled down to 50 mph cruise to maintain their range...
Some silly f
ker in one of these Jaguar EV's nearly side swiped me on a roundabout a few days ago quite simply because he was being a dick and accelerated far too hard! I really heard the whine of his motors such was the intended aggression! It wasn't a case of me pulling out on him, just the consequence of his foolish acceleration and vehicle ability.He was on my right and at a junction, I was at another junction of the RB, plenty of scope to pull on to it, but the rate at which he did was dam right dangerous and totally unnecessary spoiling the 'flow' of the RB.
I hope at some point acceleration limiters become a thing.
Lincsls1 said:
... I hope at some point acceleration limiters become a thing.
I don't! I would much rather that people get taught to drive properly; and then to retain this skill rather than lose it through the inclusion of more and more 'nanny state' driver assistance intervention software!Lincsls1 said:
I hope at some point acceleration limiters become a thing.
It does seem odd that you can now buy "white goods" cars that have the acceleration of a supercar but are often driven by people who have no interest in cars or driving. When you see clips of catastrophic attempts by seasoned petrolheads to get things like Mustangs and M4s off the line, you can't help but wonder how "soccer mom" manages when her Tesla Model X takes off like a Lamborghini!EV's seem to weigh about half a tonne more than the equivalent ICE. That's alot of extra mass to damage other cars when it goes pear shaped.... although with the drivers aids I guess it should go wrong less frequently??!?
Do other EV manufacturers go on about their 0 to 60 times as much as Tesla? I thought the whole EV 'thing' was part of a bigger green agenda so why is that metric so important... It's all very strange
Do other EV manufacturers go on about their 0 to 60 times as much as Tesla? I thought the whole EV 'thing' was part of a bigger green agenda so why is that metric so important... It's all very strange
Andyoz said:
EV's seem to weigh about half a tonne more than the equivalent ICE. That's alot of extra mass to damage other cars when it goes pear shaped.... although with the drivers aids I guess it should go wrong less frequently??!?
Do other EV manufacturers go on about their 0 to 60 times as much as Tesla? I thought the whole EV 'thing' was part of a bigger green agenda so why is that metric so important... It's all very strange
Exactly - to both points.Do other EV manufacturers go on about their 0 to 60 times as much as Tesla? I thought the whole EV 'thing' was part of a bigger green agenda so why is that metric so important... It's all very strange
Surely if its all about being better for the environment, then smaller, less powerful motors would be used and the same batteries would last much longer? Smaller tyres, less drag etc.. But no, Tesla are creating cars that can hit 60 in 1.1seconds. Very useful. Not.
Very dangerous for average Joe I'd say.
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