Why so much negativity on here about the 981?

Why so much negativity on here about the 981?

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BubblesNW

1,667 posts

151 months

Friday 11th June
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Not having driven my 981 since February which is my fun car for track and Peak District blastsdue to it being in the shop, seeing Instagram posts of the work quite regularly. Not driving my company car due to customers not accepting visitors where I used to do 20k+ business miles per year all over the UK and now just using my wife’s Golf convertible for running around the village I think any Porsche is just brilliant.

I’m not bitter, honest…

Over over under steer

549 posts

91 months

Friday 11th June
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Honestly? I think it sits in a strange place whereby some with 987s will feel the need to justify to themselves that that is the better car, and then some 911 owners will look down on the caysters because it’s ‘not a real Porsche’. People in those groups are in the minority of true enthusiasts but their posts will crop up.

I think the 981 is fab, steering is nothing like the Lotus I had before it but it’s incredibly precise, the chassis is lovely, interior well ahead of the 987 and the engine, particularly with PSE or aftermarket equivalent will be remembered as a special one.

Anyway, I don’t think there is such thing as a bad 2 door water cooled Porsche, they’re all different in their own ways.


nickv8

880 posts

51 months

Friday 11th June
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Whatevs biggrin

The 981 Boxster S (PDK) is the only Porker I’ve driven. 6 months of ownership later, I’m really warming to it.

Perhaps I was always gonna give it a hard time as I really enjoyed the V8 Vantage S before it (shifted for a motorhome... idiot that I am). That car had masses of personality, also in non-manual.

But... but... after two days of longer drives with the roof down, it’s proven to be an absolute blast down B-roads. Tackling corners is its party piece. Ride quality, even on the larger alloys without adaptive suspension, is to be really admired. Engine is good for pootling around in, but when you get the chance to stretch it, it really grabs your attention.

Biggest surprise is how much I have it in paddle mode. I love switching between standard, Sport and Sport + to suit the road and mood. Could easily live in an example without the S+ mode, but the rifle bolt gear changes are fun. Wish the paddles rotated with the wheel, but it’s actually interactive and fun.

And gearing is spot-on in a PDK. Never driven a manual, so no comment either way there.

Sound isn’t it’s strong point. Always find Porsche boxer engines sound like a bag of spanners until spinning faster. Still think that personally, but that’s just me. Not going to start playing with exhausts as it’s not a detractor for me when on the move. Just still miss the amazing burble of a great V8.

Is it better than the Boxsters or Caymans before or after? Don’t know. Don’t care. It suits me. Hope others enjoy their cars regardless what model. Just drive the thing.

981Boxess

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9,385 posts

226 months

Saturday 12th June
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nickv8 said:
Wish the paddles rotated with the wheel, .............
They do on at least two of the wheel paddle/button options

braddo

7,754 posts

156 months

Saturday 12th June
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Varelco said:
Having recently shown an interest in Porsches and spend more time reading and looking around forums I've notice you lot are a hostile bunch to each other. Find it odd from an outsiders perspective.
I thought the same thing when I started looking in the porsche section (7-8 years ago).

Wollemi

252 posts

100 months

Saturday 12th June
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The thing is

All mid-engined Porsches are simply great cars. Without exception.

nickv8

880 posts

51 months

Saturday 12th June
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981Boxess said:
hey do on at least two of the wheel paddle/button options
Is there? Genuine full-sized paddles and not buttons?

nickv8

880 posts

51 months

Saturday 12th June
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Wollemi said:
The thing is

All mid-engined Porsches are simply great cars. Without exception.
Too right! biggrin



(Although I admit to thinking about getting a 914 in the 90’s, but lumped for a succession of X1/9’s as I know quality when I see it...)

Holgate86

299 posts

8 months

Saturday 12th June
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webstercivet said:
Varelco said:
Having recently shown an interest in Porsches and spend more time reading and looking around forums I've notice you lot are a hostile bunch to each other. Find it odd from an outsiders perspective.
Have often heard this view. Perhaps Rowan Atkinson was thinking along similar lines when he said, "They’re wonderful cars – I don’t go around saying Porsches are a pile of dung – but I know I could never live with one. Somehow the typical Porsche people – and I wish them no ill – are not, I feel, my kind of people."
I had a 981 Boxster Black Edition, didn't enjoy the ownership experience at all, car was only average IMHO to drive, engineering and quality vastly over hyped, dealers and other Porsche owners pretty terrible too....couldn't even fit Zunsport grills or have a tyre repaired without the Porsche warranty boys on the case....just waiting for the engine mounts to fail......

As an all round package I'd put a 981 Boxster below the following cars I've owned the last 20 years...S3 Lotus Elise, Honda S2000, R172 Mercedes SLK55 (x2), Mercedes W205 C63 and finally my new Toyota GR Yaris CP. (Might even put it below my Mk2 Escort 1600 Sport).


pete.g

1,484 posts

174 months

Saturday 12th June
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Holgate86 said:
webstercivet said:
Varelco said:
Having recently shown an interest in Porsches and spend more time reading and looking around forums I've notice you lot are a hostile bunch to each other. Find it odd from an outsiders perspective.
Have often heard this view. Perhaps Rowan Atkinson was thinking along similar lines when he said, "They’re wonderful cars – I don’t go around saying Porsches are a pile of dung – but I know I could never live with one. Somehow the typical Porsche people – and I wish them no ill – are not, I feel, my kind of people."
I had a 981 Boxster Black Edition, didn't enjoy the ownership experience at all, car was only average IMHO to drive, engineering and quality vastly over hyped, dealers and other Porsche owners pretty terrible too....couldn't even fit Zunsport grills or have a tyre repaired without the Porsche warranty boys on the case....just waiting for the engine mounts to fail......

As an all round package I'd put a 981 Boxster below the following cars I've owned the last 20 years...S3 Lotus Elise, Honda S2000, R172 Mercedes SLK55 (x2), Mercedes W205 C63 and finally my new Toyota GR Yaris CP. (Might even put it below my Mk2 Escort 1600 Sport).
Just goes to prove the subjectivity in judging cars. Putting a Lotus ahead of anything on quality is a reach - we gave up that marque after the second fire . . .

DMZ

154 posts

128 months

Sunday 13th June
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Porsche changed so much between 9x7 and 9x1 that it’s nearly difficult to see how you can like both. For me Porsches lost a lot of their appeal in that transition but I’m sure for others it’s the other way around and he/she who spends their money gets to decide so not sure why anyone would really care about what others think. The way things are at the moment I’d say you’d be making money while enjoying them too so how bad.

Venisonpie

1,511 posts

50 months

Sunday 13th June
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Holgate86 said:
I had a 981 Boxster Black Edition, didn't enjoy the ownership experience at all, car was only average IMHO to drive, engineering and quality vastly over hyped, dealers and other Porsche owners pretty terrible too....couldn't even fit Zunsport grills or have a tyre repaired without the Porsche warranty boys on the case....just waiting for the engine mounts to fail......

As an all round package I'd put a 981 Boxster below the following cars I've owned the last 20 years...S3 Lotus Elise, Honda S2000, R172 Mercedes SLK55 (x2), Mercedes W205 C63 and finally my new Toyota GR Yaris CP. (Might even put it below my Mk2 Escort 1600 Sport).
I'd trust my old Lotus more than the 981 that preceded it. And it was more fun (by a long way). Porsche ownership is strange and not something I'm in a hurry to return to.

981Boxess

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9,385 posts

226 months

Sunday 13th June
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nickv8 said:
981Boxess said:
hey do on at least two of the wheel paddle/button options
Is there? Genuine full-sized paddles and not buttons?
I have two wheels, one has the buttons, one has the full sized paddles, both turn with the wheel.

nickv8

880 posts

51 months

Sunday 13th June
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981Boxess said:
I have two wheels, one has the buttons, one has the full sized paddles, both turn with the wheel.
Interested! Was this another option? I have the sports wheel(?) which, pleasingly, is very plain and devoid of other controls. But the metal paddles are fixed to the column.

I’m aware of the wheel with buttons (standard).

Please can you post an image of your wheel with paddles, please?

Romo

200 posts

84 months

Sunday 13th June
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Used to own a Sapphire Blue 981 C GTS, PDK, PCCB, just best spec.

As much as I loved the car, the interior, the exterior, the throttle response, the engine so free running like there was no resistance at all, the insane brakes, the PDK even more insane. It was just awesome.

But all these supurb things couldn't live up the fact me how bad the steering was, the initials response too slow and vague, too much self centering force to it, no feeling what so ever.

The sh.tty steering was the reason and the only reason I sold that car.

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Edited by Romo on Sunday 13th June 10:12

Babw

742 posts

114 months

Sunday 13th June
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Having jumped back and forth between a 981 and 987.2 over a 1000 miles of road tripping, I could not settle for the 981 steering after experiencing the 987. Unfortunately the 981 steering was closer in feel to a BMW than a Porsche.

Never driven a 718 but would be interested to see how things have progressed after the regression of feel from 987 to 981.


Romo

200 posts

84 months

Sunday 13th June
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Well, I have a 718 GT4 PDK PCCB top spec now, the steering is much much better, although initial steering reaction n is not as quick as my M2CS

Out overal there is no comparison steering 981 GTS a d 718 GT4

MrVert

3,807 posts

207 months

Sunday 13th June
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I think every car has a drawback of some variety...

My 458's steering rack slightly too quick, throttle response very sensitive in town, exhaust note a bit blary (all blah or not a lot)...etc etc etc..but they're still brilliant cars.

GT3 long geared, probably too capable for the UK roads to get any real enjoyment for its' purpose as intended...

How much importance you put on one thing will differ from person to person, but at the end of the day, for me, it's how everything adds up to an overall package that matters.

My 981 GTS has X73 suspension, how much that makes a difference to steering feel is questionable, however it turns in brilliantly, is great fun to drive through the lanes and makes me laugh with the drive and sound it offers.

Compared to previous 'R' yes it loses steering feel, but other ingredients of the 981 GTS add up to something I think is brilliant.

It's a proper Porsche.

Edited by MrVert on Sunday 13th June 21:36

cossers

2,673 posts

108 months

Sunday 13th June
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Seems it’s the same thing every time, the steering! some just can’t understand that other don’t find it as much as an issue as themselves


I’m not trying to say it’s in any way as good as the 987 or others but as I said before, I’ve no issues with it whatsoever

Ps I’ve no issue with the negative comments on here, that’s their opinion and that’s totally ok with me, its just some will actually argue with you that you are completely incorrect in not having an issue with thr steering when you find it perfectly ok! Go figure....



Edited by cossers on Sunday 13th June 12:14

981Boxess

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9,385 posts

226 months

Sunday 13th June
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nickv8 said:
981Boxess said:
I have two wheels, one has the buttons, one has the full sized paddles, both turn with the wheel.
Interested! Was this another option? I have the sports wheel(?) which, pleasingly, is very plain and devoid of other controls. But the metal paddles are fixed to the column.

I’m aware of the wheel with buttons (standard).

Please can you post an image of your wheel with paddles, please?
I could but this is it here:

https://content3.eu.porsche.com/prod/pag/tequipmen...