Panamera Depreciation
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If you work out the worst-case scenario (diesels bans proliferate, value crashes, Porsche don't take care) versus the difference in fuel costs of running a Turbo/GTS, the decision may be easier to make?
My Turbo has just turned 10 years old, I don't do that many miles (52,000 miles total) so the MPG is almost inconsequential; it remains faultless and a joy to drive/own.
My Turbo has just turned 10 years old, I don't do that many miles (52,000 miles total) so the MPG is almost inconsequential; it remains faultless and a joy to drive/own.
EGTE said:
If you work out the worst-case scenario (diesels bans proliferate, value crashes, Porsche don't take care) versus the difference in fuel costs of running a Turbo/GTS, the decision may be easier to make?
My Turbo has just turned 10 years old, I don't do that many miles (52,000 miles total) so the MPG is almost inconsequential; it remains faultless and a joy to drive/own.
Yeah. You are looking at £10-20k sticker price difference for a Turbo vs a similar age 4S Diesel. I say headline as the Turbos usually come kidded out with slightly more decent options too. Not always, but often. I can see a reason the Diesel exists if you are doing really big mileages for work for example. But I agree with you... for most people - and certainly for me - I think the Turbo represents a better buy.My Turbo has just turned 10 years old, I don't do that many miles (52,000 miles total) so the MPG is almost inconsequential; it remains faultless and a joy to drive/own.
RDMcG said:
Depreciation monster - was well aware of the huge drop on these cars but I bought one anyway and I love it...
I think that’s the best picture I have ever seen of a Panamera! Love the spec on your car.....specced by someone who knows what he wants and went for it....so refreshing in a sea of grey, white, silver and black.Cheib said:
I think that’s the best picture I have ever seen of a Panamera! Love the spec on your car.....specced by someone who knows what he wants and went for it....so refreshing in a sea of grey, white, silver and black.
Thanks
.I deleted all chrome, rear turbo badging, did black leather and CF interior, no wood. No radar-type driver aids, no ceramics, added torque vectoring, sport chrono, 21" wheels. Turbo, no hybrid. 550 BHP. Obviously not a natural track car but did it anyway.RDMcG said:
Thanks.I deleted all chrome, rear turbo badging, did black leather and CF interior, no wood. No radar-type driver aids, no ceramics, added torque vectoring, sport chrono, 21" wheels. Turbo, no hybrid. 550 BHP. Obviously not a natural track car but did it anyway.
Is it Carmine or Guards ? Sometimes the former comes out much lighter. .I deleted all chrome, rear turbo badging, did black leather and CF interior, no wood. No radar-type driver aids, no ceramics, added torque vectoring, sport chrono, 21" wheels. Turbo, no hybrid. 550 BHP. Obviously not a natural track car but did it anyway.No wood is the correct answer ! I know it’s popular in North America but I just don’t like it on Porsche’s or even when I had BMW’s for that matter. Worst Porsche I have ever seen was an old shape Penny in light green metallic with a wooden steering wheel.
Cheib said:
Is it Carmine or Guards ? Sometimes the former comes out much lighter.
No wood is the correct answer ! I know it’s popular in North America but I just don’t like it on Porsche’s or even when I had BMW’s for that matter. Worst Porsche I have ever seen was an old shape Penny in light green metallic with a wooden steering wheel.
Carmine. I also have an old SL 500 where I specified aluminium instead of wood against dealer advice. Now, when I see a car of that vitage the wood interior looks like a radiogram. No wood is the correct answer ! I know it’s popular in North America but I just don’t like it on Porsche’s or even when I had BMW’s for that matter. Worst Porsche I have ever seen was an old shape Penny in light green metallic with a wooden steering wheel.
RDMcG said:
Cheib said:
Is it Carmine or Guards ? Sometimes the former comes out much lighter.
No wood is the correct answer ! I know it’s popular in North America but I just don’t like it on Porsche’s or even when I had BMW’s for that matter. Worst Porsche I have ever seen was an old shape Penny in light green metallic with a wooden steering wheel.
Carmine. I also have an old SL 500 where I specified aluminium instead of wood against dealer advice. Now, when I see a car of that vitage the wood interior looks like a radiogram. No wood is the correct answer ! I know it’s popular in North America but I just don’t like it on Porsche’s or even when I had BMW’s for that matter. Worst Porsche I have ever seen was an old shape Penny in light green metallic with a wooden steering wheel.
Cheib said:
EGTE said:
That's a nice spec.
I have mine in Yachting Blue with Ivory leather, but I might get the Turbo badging removed as well.
?I have mine in Yachting Blue with Ivory leather, but I might get the Turbo badging removed as well.
Yachting Blue ?! That sounds lovely. ? Any pics ? I saw a pic of a Yachting Blue GT car the other day on Insta, looked absolutely fantastic.
I bought a 10 year old Turbo just before lockdown v1. Agree with the mpg etc being irrelevent on something that does minimal miles, although I did spend over £500 on fuel in the space of 2 weeks when I first got it .. Mines jet green, 21" wheels, PCCB, no Burmester though but can't have it all.
Having spent the last 10 years doing at least 30k miles per year in family diesels I used some hefty man maths (working from home now) to justify this 2018 4S ST
First Porsche and absolutely loving it. It's done quite a bit depreciating from new but I've managed to heavily depreciate my previous cars with mileage!
First Porsche and absolutely loving it. It's done quite a bit depreciating from new but I've managed to heavily depreciate my previous cars with mileage!
Not Ideal said:
Wow! That looks ace.
Absolutely love these things.
Thanks - I've always had a soft spot for the Sport Turismo. Practicality was confirmed when I was able to use it to go and collect my son's wheels that were in for a refurb this morning Absolutely love these things.
.I thought I really liked my previous car - a 2019 A6 Avant 2l TDI - until my wife got a new M135i a few months ago and I realised that I wanted something more exciting.
Edited by Paulduckworth on Wednesday 13th January 12:54
We have used a 2012 Panamera diesel as an every day car for the last 3 years.
It has been such a good all round performer doing everything 8/10 - comfort, performance, style, practicality, running costs.
It’s nice to drive slowly around town, good on country roads, amazing on GT blasts.
Fuel consumption is amazingly good for a larger car. Worst has been 38mpg; best 60mpg.
On a recent varied road type high speed journey with several 120-150+mph stretches, it still averaged over 40mpg.
There is a lot of plastic buttons/switches but generally they are acceptable.
The chrome trim embellishers on the window switches break off easily, but not a big issue.
Steel coil springs and cast iron brakes make the ride occasionally harsh, so air suspension may give a better ride quality.
A local independent Porsche specialist does the annual maintenance and repairs for a good price.
Overall it’s a very good car which for my family has no obvious better prospect available.
At a current market value £20-22k they seem bargain of the classifieds.
We bought it for £27k 3 years ago financing it using 10% deposit, as larger balloon as possible, and a 4 year period. Costs £308/month - cheaper than walking!
If anybody is considering one, the diesel is highly recommended.
It has been such a good all round performer doing everything 8/10 - comfort, performance, style, practicality, running costs.
It’s nice to drive slowly around town, good on country roads, amazing on GT blasts.
Fuel consumption is amazingly good for a larger car. Worst has been 38mpg; best 60mpg.
On a recent varied road type high speed journey with several 120-150+mph stretches, it still averaged over 40mpg.
There is a lot of plastic buttons/switches but generally they are acceptable.
The chrome trim embellishers on the window switches break off easily, but not a big issue.
Steel coil springs and cast iron brakes make the ride occasionally harsh, so air suspension may give a better ride quality.
A local independent Porsche specialist does the annual maintenance and repairs for a good price.
Overall it’s a very good car which for my family has no obvious better prospect available.
At a current market value £20-22k they seem bargain of the classifieds.
We bought it for £27k 3 years ago financing it using 10% deposit, as larger balloon as possible, and a 4 year period. Costs £308/month - cheaper than walking!
If anybody is considering one, the diesel is highly recommended.
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