Anyone own a high miles in a Panamera 3.0D?

Anyone own a high miles in a Panamera 3.0D?

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S8QUATTRO

Original Poster:

615 posts

109 months

Tuesday 20th October
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has anyone on here got first hand experience of doing big miles in a 3.0d Panamera?

They dont seem to drop much below the £20k mark and have been the same for a couple of years, whereas similar (sport/lux) types of cars have dropped a fair bit 640d / A7 / CLS / Ghibli 3.0d

Has anyone taken one to 150k plus miles without major issues?

Thanks






matfinch

128 posts

138 months

Friday 23rd October
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Hi. I have a 2011 Gen 1 Panemera Diesel, run as a daily drive since 2015. Bought it with 55k miles, now done 155k and counting, and no major issues.

Things I like about it:

1. Very comfortable, can drive for 6+ hours and still feel fresh

2. Fun to drive. Ok it’s no 911, especially with the diesel, but I still enjoy b-roads. Handling is remarkedly good for a 2 tonne big car, you can chuck it round corners and it sticks! Lot less body roll than you’d expect.

3. Its Practical. 42 MPG on mixed driving, 50mpg on motorway. 4 proper sized adult seats. Boot is reasonable size, but sloped window means its not huge. It has variable servicing, which on my mileage seems to want a minor service every year (20k) and major service every 2 years (40k). It occasionally wants a top up of oil, say every 6 months.

Things I don’t like;

1. Pay attention to spec/options, as the standard factor spec is very mean. Everything is optional extra (eg auto dimming mirror, parking sensors, rear camara) so pay close attention to options on used models. Standard radio is weak.

2. It’s wide and long, so find parking spaces not always easy.

3. 8 speed Tiptronic gearbox is sluggish, fine for cruising, but Porsche PDK is much better for sporty driving. Depends how important that is to you.


Costs:

Biggest wear items are brakes and tyres, just due to the size and weight. Brakes every 50k miles, tyres every 25k miles.

I changed the gearbox oil at 120k and 150k as a preventative measure to prolong the triptronic gearbox. Its very expensive job at Porsche dealer, recommend finding a specialist for half the price.

A rear suspension spring broke, very unusual according to the garage, perhaps hit a curb. Not a tricky job to replace.

Air con stopped going cold and needed a new compressor, but not unusual for any 5+ year old car.

Other than that, no issues. Never let me down. No major costs.

I'm a big fan and hard to think what I'd replace it with... maybe another one


S8QUATTRO

Original Poster:

615 posts

109 months

Friday 23rd October
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Thanks for replying, yours sounds exactly like what i would do in one...

I bet it still looks and drives well with close to 160k miles on

Is it up for sale soon?

matfinch said:
Hi. I have a 2011 Gen 1 Panemera Diesel, run as a daily drive since 2015. Bought it with 55k miles, now done 155k and counting, and no major issues.

Things I like about it:

1. Very comfortable, can drive for 6+ hours and still feel fresh

2. Fun to drive. Ok it’s no 911, especially with the diesel, but I still enjoy b-roads. Handling is remarkedly good for a 2 tonne big car, you can chuck it round corners and it sticks! Lot less body roll than you’d expect.

3. Its Practical. 42 MPG on mixed driving, 50mpg on motorway. 4 proper sized adult seats. Boot is reasonable size, but sloped window means its not huge. It has variable servicing, which on my mileage seems to want a minor service every year (20k) and major service every 2 years (40k). It occasionally wants a top up of oil, say every 6 months.

Things I don’t like;

1. Pay attention to spec/options, as the standard factor spec is very mean. Everything is optional extra (eg auto dimming mirror, parking sensors, rear camara) so pay close attention to options on used models. Standard radio is weak.

2. It’s wide and long, so find parking spaces not always easy.

3. 8 speed Tiptronic gearbox is sluggish, fine for cruising, but Porsche PDK is much better for sporty driving. Depends how important that is to you.


Costs:

Biggest wear items are brakes and tyres, just due to the size and weight. Brakes every 50k miles, tyres every 25k miles.

I changed the gearbox oil at 120k and 150k as a preventative measure to prolong the triptronic gearbox. Its very expensive job at Porsche dealer, recommend finding a specialist for half the price.

A rear suspension spring broke, very unusual according to the garage, perhaps hit a curb. Not a tricky job to replace.

Air con stopped going cold and needed a new compressor, but not unusual for any 5+ year old car.

Other than that, no issues. Never let me down. No major costs.

I'm a big fan and hard to think what I'd replace it with... maybe another one

unclegrouch

335 posts

148 months

Sunday 25th October
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I have been following this one closely to learn as much as possible.

I bought a 2012 diesel 15 months ago on 70k, now done 87k & has been faultless.

i would like to run it for another 2-3 years, maybe 15k a year so could end up on 130k+ by then & might be worth less than a 15 year old Kia smile

In my limited experience, I would agree with everything above, it's a pleasure to drive, goes ok & returns decent fuel figures (mostly under 40mpg for me but acceptable). F&R parking sensors on both of mine & I think they should be standard, I wouldn't want a pan without them.

I really like the tip box for local town work and doing the day to day stuff, far better around town than the PDK - but open road & in turbo-nutter mode, the PDK really shows its colours.

Lots of room, looks nice, lovely to drive & hopefully german reliability - not much to dislike is there smile

S8QUATTRO

Original Poster:

615 posts

109 months

Wednesday 28th October
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Do you mind me asking what you paid for it 15 months ago?

I will prob hang on for a few months to see what happens to values after christmas

I will be doing 20-22k miles a year in the car.

I had a 640d sport auto for a year, was great on fuel, looked nice etc but boring to drive..

unclegrouch said:
I have been following this one closely to learn as much as possible.

I bought a 2012 diesel 15 months ago on 70k, now done 87k & has been faultless.

i would like to run it for another 2-3 years, maybe 15k a year so could end up on 130k+ by then & might be worth less than a 15 year old Kia smile

In my limited experience, I would agree with everything above, it's a pleasure to drive, goes ok & returns decent fuel figures (mostly under 40mpg for me but acceptable). F&R parking sensors on both of mine & I think they should be standard, I wouldn't want a pan without them.

I really like the tip box for local town work and doing the day to day stuff, far better around town than the PDK - but open road & in turbo-nutter mode, the PDK really shows its colours.

Lots of room, looks nice, lovely to drive & hopefully german reliability - not much to dislike is there smile

unclegrouch

335 posts

148 months

Wednesday 4th November
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S8QUATTRO said:
Do you mind me asking what you paid for it 15 months ago?

I will prob hang on for a few months to see what happens to values after christmas

I will be doing 20-22k miles a year in the car.

I had a 640d sport auto for a year, was great on fuel, looked nice etc but boring to drive..
no problem - I bought it from a dealer, nice tidy car, FPSH, not much in the way of extras other than the alloys, £23k.

It's now on 87k, been no trouble at all & it's being used most days for work (14 mile commute and a bit of local buzzing around seeing customers / and the odd 100 mile round trip to see trade customers). I seem to average 38-40mpg which I am happy with.

My only concern (and maybe yours when you buy one) is doing 15k+ a year in it, if I hang on to it for another 2 yrs, that puts it 120-130k & I think that will hit it's value. The child in me says "sod it" I get to drive a panny every day smile

BMW - my work car for all of the above is / was a 535D - quicker than the Panny by a small margin, same fuel consumption, but just not in the same league (but it's a 12 yr old 190k car, had it for 3 yrs)

The only car I would probably change my diesel panamera for is a newer Merc CLA45 - but I would struggle for space & have to use the BMW more.


Edited by unclegrouch on Wednesday 4th November 07:04

S8QUATTRO

Original Poster:

615 posts

109 months

Wednesday 4th November
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unclegrouch said:
S8QUATTRO said:
Do you mind me asking what you paid for it 15 months ago?

I will prob hang on for a few months to see what happens to values after christmas

I will be doing 20-22k miles a year in the car.

I had a 640d sport auto for a year, was great on fuel, looked nice etc but boring to drive..
no problem - I bought it from a dealer, nice tidy car, FPSH, not much in the way of extras other than the alloys, £23k.

It's now on 87k, been no trouble at all & it's being used most days for work (14 mile commute and a bit of local buzzing around seeing customers / and the odd 100 mile round trip to see trade customers). I seem to average 38-40mpg which I am happy with.

My only concern (and maybe yours when you buy one) is doing 15k+ a year in it, if I hang on to it for another 2 yrs, that puts it 120-130k & I think that will hit it's value. The child in me says "sod it" I get to drive a panny every day smile

BMW - my work car for all of the above is / was a 535D - quicker than the Panny by a small margin, same fuel consumption, but just not in the same league (but it's a 12 yr old 190k car, had it for 3 yrs)

The only car I would probably change my diesel panamera for is a newer Merc CLA45 - but I would struggle for space & have to use the BMW more.


Edited by unclegrouch on Wednesday 4th November 07:04
Cheers for the info, the mileage is a bit of a concern. Plus i cant help but think a load of the 3.0d's have been clocked, ive not seen any 150k examples for sale which means they are that good people are keeping them....or they could have been tampered with..

The 535d is a great motor, i had the 635d and the 640d with either the same or similar engine, even sounded nice.