Panamera Sport Turismo as a daily driver?
Discussion
I am looking to replace my 2014 Audi RS4 (B8) with something that has a decent turn of pace and is fun to drive, but which can be practical for 4/5 people plus luggage at other times.
I don’t need a cavernous boot (Mercedes E-class, Audi A6) and don’t want an SUV like a Cayenne. Another RS4 (B9) is a possibility.
I like the look of the forthcoming Taycan Sport Turismo, but I don’t like the price, particular when I think electric cars will see significant improvements in the next 5 years, so resale of older models could be hit hard.
So would a few year old Panamera do the job - with a budget of around £80k?
Cheers
I don’t need a cavernous boot (Mercedes E-class, Audi A6) and don’t want an SUV like a Cayenne. Another RS4 (B9) is a possibility.
I like the look of the forthcoming Taycan Sport Turismo, but I don’t like the price, particular when I think electric cars will see significant improvements in the next 5 years, so resale of older models could be hit hard.
So would a few year old Panamera do the job - with a budget of around £80k?
Cheers
Cheib said:
They’re brilliant cars and hide their bulk very well and the interiors are really lovely places to be...loads of rear seat room if that’s important.
I don’t think OPC’s can shift them very easily so think you should get some flexibility if you do go for one.
Rear seats will be used a few times a year, so not a priority. I think I need to decide whether a second hand (1-2 years old) Panamera (hybrid?) Sport Turismo at c. £90k, or Taycan 4S (new sport Turismo) at (say) £100k is the best option.I don’t think OPC’s can shift them very easily so think you should get some flexibility if you do go for one.
Taycan will probably be practical enough (waiting to see the boot dimensions etc for the Taycan Sport Turismo), but the Hybrid Panamera will be sufficiently useable (c. 30 miles) in electric only mode for my daily commute and general use, so will be comparable to the Taycan from that perspective.
In the meantime I'll be doing more research into the Panamera (latest version) and keeping an eye on the approved used cars on the Porsche website, while I eagerly await for news of the Taycan Sport Turismo.
Pootling about in a heavy hybrid in all electric mode is a world apart from driving a performance EV and in some way a waste of such a car. Why not either go all in with the Taycan or go for a panamera 4S ST. The petrol 4S pany has the same motor as the current RS4, will be closer to the sporty drive that you’re used to, rather than the heavier hybrid version?
James_p9746 said:
Cheib said:
I think the Taycan ST is due Q2 next year...it’s the one I am interested in.
Out of interest, what is it that would make you choose the Taycan ST over a used Panamera (hybrid) ST, at the same price?James_p9746 said:
I am looking to replace my 2014 Audi RS4 (B8) with something that has a decent turn of pace and is fun to drive, but which can be practical for 4/5 people plus luggage at other times.
I don’t need a cavernous boot (Mercedes E-class, Audi A6) and don’t want an SUV like a Cayenne. Another RS4 (B9) is a possibility.
I like the look of the forthcoming Taycan Sport Turismo, but I don’t like the price, particular when I think electric cars will see significant improvements in the next 5 years, so resale of older models could be hit hard.
So would a few year old Panamera do the job - with a budget of around £80k?
Cheers
I have a B9 RS4 at the moment (having come from a C7 RS6). I too considered the Panamera ST. It is a great car but surprisingly wide and I found it tricky to park in narrow spaces at work and on the B roads I mostly drive on. RS4 much more useable for me. Plus mine is de-badged and slips under the radar fairly well - if that's your style. I don’t need a cavernous boot (Mercedes E-class, Audi A6) and don’t want an SUV like a Cayenne. Another RS4 (B9) is a possibility.
I like the look of the forthcoming Taycan Sport Turismo, but I don’t like the price, particular when I think electric cars will see significant improvements in the next 5 years, so resale of older models could be hit hard.
So would a few year old Panamera do the job - with a budget of around £80k?
Cheers
Bottom line? Test drive both. Very different driving experience despite obvious mechanical similarities.
I run one as a daily. Main duties are on B roads, it's an incredibly capable car. It is, have others have said, pretty big on the road but considering our roads are now clogged with SUVs of similar sizes with no one giving too hoots it'd be a shame to let that worry you too much. On the motorway it is a supreme cruiser at any speed you wish to travel at. There is a really nice spec 4S at Cameron sports bang on your budget at present.
James_p9746 said:
I am looking to replace my 2014 Audi RS4 (B8) with something that has a decent turn of pace and is fun to drive, but which can be practical for 4/5 people plus luggage at other times.
I don’t need a cavernous boot (Mercedes E-class, Audi A6) and don’t want an SUV like a Cayenne. Another RS4 (B9) is a possibility.
I like the look of the forthcoming Taycan Sport Turismo, but I don’t like the price, particular when I think electric cars will see significant improvements in the next 5 years, so resale of older models could be hit hard.
So would a few year old Panamera do the job - with a budget of around £80k?
Cheers
I’m interested to read this. I’m trying to decide between a B8 RS4 and a Panamera right now. I drove a 4S 970.2 today (the V6 3.0 twin turbo). At first I was really puzzled because it seemed slow. But then looking at the speedo I realised it just hides speed really well. The chassis is immensely composed, the ride is excellent, there’s hardly any wind noise at speed and the engine isn’t too shouty. It reminded me of my old V10 S8, but quieter and much tauter. I don’t need a cavernous boot (Mercedes E-class, Audi A6) and don’t want an SUV like a Cayenne. Another RS4 (B9) is a possibility.
I like the look of the forthcoming Taycan Sport Turismo, but I don’t like the price, particular when I think electric cars will see significant improvements in the next 5 years, so resale of older models could be hit hard.
So would a few year old Panamera do the job - with a budget of around £80k?
Cheers
Whether that’s what I want though is the big question. I saw an RS4 yesterday (dealer wasn’t offering drives) with a miltek and it sounded like a WW2 Spitfire starting up.
The seller of the Panny said the previous owner went to it from an RS4 (didnt say which Gen). So that plus your direction of travel suggests that I should probably choose the Panamera.
So: why do you want out of your RS4 and what do you see a Panamera offers over an RS4?
I have an ST Turbo which is an exceptionally good DD, superb handling, beautifully finished.
A couple of caveats:
- It is a hatchback rather than a true estate car like an AMG for instance. Only relevant if you are carrying something big. Too low for my Great Dane to be comfortable compared to my Cayenne
-It is really a four seater and not for four basketball players; however the glass rood and the higher rear roofline that the saloon makes it quite airy.
Like many German cars the entire menu system is overly complex and the gloss console with touch-sensitive buttons gets greasy quickly.
Still, as a driver's car for long distances it a spectacular.
This is mine:
A couple of caveats:
- It is a hatchback rather than a true estate car like an AMG for instance. Only relevant if you are carrying something big. Too low for my Great Dane to be comfortable compared to my Cayenne
-It is really a four seater and not for four basketball players; however the glass rood and the higher rear roofline that the saloon makes it quite airy.
Like many German cars the entire menu system is overly complex and the gloss console with touch-sensitive buttons gets greasy quickly.
Still, as a driver's car for long distances it a spectacular.
This is mine:
..Cayenne much better:
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