F430 red slow down warning light

F430 red slow down warning light

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petrolpat

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289 posts

155 months

Saturday 9th July 2016
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As title, I have had this light come on a few times and unable to change gear on the F1 system. All corrects its self after a few minutes
with the engine off. Was just requesting info. Is it due to high exhaust temps and would it be worth changing the thermocouples ? I don't push the car hard and this happens more when in slow traffic.

Thanks in advance

steelej

1,754 posts

147 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Good blog post here from Voicey on the red slow down error.

https://aldousvoice.com/2014/04/19/ferrari-f430-sl...

John.

petrolpat

Original Poster:

289 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Thank's John for the link and will carry out a few more checks as aldousvoice suggests. Strange that I can't select gears on the F1 system when the red light is ON, maybe that's how Ferrari electronics gets you to slow down !

belfry

544 posts

122 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Had you recently washed the car? Or had you been driving in heavy rain?

I had the slow down light on after driving in heavy rain, although I did not have any problem changing gear.

Take it to someone with a SD3 machine and they will be able to tell you more.

Mine was the right hand catalyst ecu reporting a fault, so I resealed it with silicone and haven't had an issue since.

Edin430

934 posts

144 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Without wanting to worry you this is a common sign of an actuator fault / leak. Mine had it and cost almost £7k to fix.
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petrolpat

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289 posts

155 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Edin430 said:
Without wanting to worry you this is a common sign of an actuator fault / leak. Mine had it and cost almost £7k to fix.
wow that is a worry what did you get for your 7k ? Did you take the car to main dealer or independent. I will check my FI fluid level !

Edited by petrolpat on Monday 11th July 19:54

thecook101

582 posts

55 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Could be a number of things of course but for me it was the F1 pump motor going. Common problem with early 430s as the same pump that pressurised the gearbox on the 360 was carried through to the 430 and now does the gearbox and e-diff. Was upgraded in 2007 I think. You can find an updated version on eBay for around £200 and it's no more than an hour to do yourself. Hope you sort it.

red_duke

730 posts

121 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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thecook101 said:
Could be a number of things of course but for me it was the F1 pump motor going. Common problem with early 430s as the same pump that pressurised the gearbox on the 360 was carried through to the 430 and now does the gearbox and e-diff. Was upgraded in 2007 I think. You can find an updated version on eBay for around £200 and it's no more than an hour to do yourself. Hope you sort it.
Do you need to replace the entire F1 pump and bleed the hydraulic system (requires an SD3 computer I believe), or can you just swap the pump motor?

thecook101

582 posts

55 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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red_duke said:
Do you need to replace the entire F1 pump and bleed the hydraulic system (requires an SD3 computer I believe), or can you just swap the pump motor?
Just swap the motor. You can leave the actual pump in place and thus don't need to disturb the hydraulics. There is a good video on YouTube by Juri, think it's for a 360 but the early 430s are the same. Juri also supplies updated pumps.

thecook101

582 posts

55 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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red_duke

730 posts

121 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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thecook101 said:
Just swap the motor. You can leave the actual pump in place and thus don't need to disturb the hydraulics. There is a good video on YouTube by Juri, think it's for a 360 but the early 430s are the same. Juri also supplies updated pumps.
Good to know, thanks!

FrankAbagnale

1,410 posts

52 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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I think I am going to replace my F1 pump motor.

I was told that it shouldn't take longer than 10 seconds to prime once you turn the key in the ignition (whirring noise) and if it is longer then it needs looking at.

Also get the slow down light occasionally.

thecook101

582 posts

55 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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FrankAbagnale said:
I think I am going to replace my F1 pump motor.

I was told that it shouldn't take longer than 10 seconds to prime once you turn the key in the ignition (whirring noise) and if it is longer then it needs looking at.

Also get the slow down light occasionally.
Yup - my symptoms exactly. If you don't want the uprated pump you can buy the Alfa Selespeed pump off eBay - cheaper and exactly the same as the original part. Also check that the pump relay (behind the passenger seat) is at least 50amp (the early ones were 30amp and would eventually 'weld') and same for the fuse.

FrankAbagnale

1,410 posts

52 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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thecook101 said:
FrankAbagnale said:
I think I am going to replace my F1 pump motor.

I was told that it shouldn't take longer than 10 seconds to prime once you turn the key in the ignition (whirring noise) and if it is longer then it needs looking at.

Also get the slow down light occasionally.
Yup - my symptoms exactly. If you don't want the uprated pump you can buy the Alfa Selespeed pump off eBay - cheaper and exactly the same as the original part. Also check that the pump relay (behind the passenger seat) is at least 50amp (the early ones were 30amp and would eventually 'weld') and same for the fuse.
Great - will do both of those things. Thank you.

Is this the right part - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-ORIGINAL-Alfa-Ro... ?

thecook101

582 posts

55 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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FrankAbagnale said:
Great - will do both of those things. Thank you.

Is this the right part - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-ORIGINAL-Alfa-Ro... ?
Thats it. That one includes the pump - easy enough to remove as you want to keep the original one in place and so not have to bleed the hydraulics. When you separate them take care with the gasket and the coupling that engages the motor and pump shafts. YouTube is your friend smile

gadgetJunky72

154 posts

116 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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My 430 is going into DK Engineering next week with the same problem. I've got an RAC gold warranty. I'll let you know how i get on. fingers crossed it'll be the pump and it'll be covered.

gadgetJunky72

154 posts

116 months

Friday 12th August 2016
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So my car went in to DK and of course sods law it didn't misbehave the whole time it was there. so i can't report on how i got it fixed yet.

petrolpat

Original Poster:

289 posts

155 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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gadgetJunky72 said:
So my car went in to DK and of course sods law it didn't misbehave the whole time it was there. so i can't report on how i got it fixed yet.
Did you manage to sort at DK. I still have the gearbox light issue coming ON but only when the car is hot and you slow down in traffic

gadgetJunky72

154 posts

116 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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they couldn't find anything wrong so couldn't recommend changing anything. it's only come up again once since then as it isn't getting driven that much.

FrankAbagnale

1,410 posts

52 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Update on mine - took in in to ferrari dealer who couldn't replicate the slow down light and during a major service took a good look and could see no problems.

Had it come up once since for a couple of seconds.

Not going round to changing the pump yet, but will do that anyway.