Buying Ferrari - 458 vs 488?

Buying Ferrari - 458 vs 488?

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Jeweller70

122 posts

60 months

Thursday 20th June
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I am fortunate to have both.

Is the 488 an objectively better car.....Yep. But I prefer the 458, it has less grip and more drama, and to be honest the torque of turbo cars means you are doing insane speed on the road.

Noise is not even close to my ears.....

I dont track road cars, if I did the 488 would blow the 458 away

The F8 will be better than the 488 but I doubt it will make me feel any different about the 458.

I honestly see 488's being less than 458's in next 12 to 18 months, try selling a 488 or a 458 to a dealer and see what one they want.

Just my PoV and this situation is not ideal for me so dont shoot me down!



garystoybox

227 posts

61 months

Thursday 20th June
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Honestly imo (and i’m seemingly the only person who thinks this!) the 458 just didn’t sound that good; almost the weakest point of the car. It was a great engine for throttle response and outright performance, but acoustically it seemed to be a flat crank ‘noise’ that got louder as you went through the revs. Certainly nowhere near as evocative as the symphony of the 12 cylinder cars. I’ve never missed it one bit. Agree that the the 488 is so quick in comparison that you need to take extreme care on the road not to get carried away. I seem to hit my self imposed speed limiter much quicker and more often than I did in my 458’s.

Zadkiel

260 posts

90 months

Friday 21st June
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As another lucky owner of both I'd have to echo most of the thoughts here, each to their own! I have met many people who would take the 488 over a 458 any day (although they are generally 488 owners so they would say that) but personally I will be selling the 488 before the 458 that's for sure. I think the 488 is a much more complete car and certainly much faster... which is why I prefer the 458. The 488 is so crazy fast once you have experienced it for about a second you are going far too fast. Also it feels like something you could use pretty easily every day which is great, but a little less special for weekends in my mind.

Having taken both on track also, yes the 488 is much faster and has more grip too so it would monster the 458 head to head but it's not like the 458 embarrasses itself.

I think if you are going to do long journeys and use it a lot and have only one "weekend car" then the 488 could be a great choice. But if it is just for the occasional special drive I'd get a 458, especially a Spider smile

LIVENT

189 posts

172 months

Sunday 30th June
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Jonny TVR said:
I want to start this debate again 3 years on. After seeing some 488 and 458's at Le Mans this weekend I'm thinking of making the move from my 599 to one of these. What are peoples views?
I had the choice of either. I drove both on a track. Looked into the various costs of ownership etc.. etc.. and bought the 488.

For me it's a better car in every way. It drives better, it looks better and if buying new with the warranty, servicing and ability to customise to your own preference makes it bater value.

But it's all subjective, the above is my own personal view. The whole N/A debate does not interest me, if you're some kind of N/A engine obsessive then fair enough but for me the F40 was one of the best Ferrari's ever made and that has a turbo charged engine. Personally I don't buy the idea that somehow the 458 will hold its value more because it has an N/A engine, most people buying these cars are not enthusiasts and don't care.

My advice go drive them, look at them and decide for yourself.

I have no regrets and am glad I stumped up the extra cash.

WCZ

6,832 posts

138 months

Monday 1st July
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LIVENT said:
Personally I don't buy the idea that somehow the 458 will hold its value more because it has an N/A engine, most people buying these cars are not enthusiasts and don't care.
it'll become that way though, the people who aren't enthusiasts will just buy the latest model and the 458 will be remembered for it's n/a engine and being a classic in general

456mgt

2,302 posts

210 months

Monday 1st July
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garystoybox said:
Honestly imo (and i’m seemingly the only person who thinks this!) the 458 just didn’t sound that good; almost the weakest point of the car. It was a great engine for throttle response and outright performance, but acoustically it seemed to be a flat crank ‘noise’ that got louder as you went through the revs. Certainly nowhere near as evocative as the symphony of the 12 cylinder cars. I’ve never missed it one bit. Agree that the the 488 is so quick in comparison that you need to take extreme care on the road not to get carried away. I seem to hit my self imposed speed limiter much quicker and more often than I did in my 458’s.
I'm also of the opinion that the later V8s are a bit challenging acoustically, but there is, fortunately, a solution https://www.instagram.com/p/ByQKodXlzb2/ The sound of a 458 with a capristo is almost a good enough reason to buy one IMO, and I need another car like a hole in the head.

phil bird

188 posts

79 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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My 458 italia search ended with this 430 Scuderia!! very happy! smile

Gregor-lun1d

16 posts

41 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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absolutely stunning. Genuinely underrated cars.

mattf93

1,138 posts

59 months

Thursday 18th July
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phil bird said:


My 458 italia search ended with this 430 Scuderia!! very happy! smile
How do you go from a 458 to scud? quite different looking things (although the noise of a scud at full chat is insane and imo a better more natural noise than a 458!)

LIVENT

189 posts

172 months

Saturday 20th July
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WCZ said:
LIVENT said:
Personally I don't buy the idea that somehow the 458 will hold its value more because it has an N/A engine, most people buying these cars are not enthusiasts and don't care.
it'll become that way though, the people who aren't enthusiasts will just buy the latest model and the 458 will be remembered for it's n/a engine and being a classic in general
I doubt that. Maybe the Speciale, but not the normal model.

dereksharpuk

20 posts

112 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Having watched last night a U-Tube spot of 458 v 488 and noticed both drivers preferred the 458, today I test drove the 458 back to back against the 488. If I was to award points out of 10 for both cars (& indeed my F430 as well ) this is what it would be: F430 - 5 points, 458 - 6 points, 488 - 9 points. The 488 won on looks, driving pleasure, performance and sound. The later did surprise me as it is a turbo.

Jonny TVR

2,566 posts

225 months

Wednesday 14th August
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dereksharpuk said:
Having watched last night a U-Tube spot of 458 v 488 and noticed both drivers preferred the 458, today I test drove the 458 back to back against the 488. If I was to award points out of 10 for both cars (& indeed my F430 as well ) this is what it would be: F430 - 5 points, 458 - 6 points, 488 - 9 points. The 488 won on looks, driving pleasure, performance and sound. The later did surprise me as it is a turbo.
Interesting and thanks for sharing. I wonder if purchased today which would win the prize on depreciation over the next 2-3 years.

theRossatron

889 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th August
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dereksharpuk said:
Having watched last night a U-Tube spot of 458 v 488 and noticed both drivers preferred the 458, today I test drove the 458 back to back against the 488. If I was to award points out of 10 for both cars (& indeed my F430 as well ) this is what it would be: F430 - 5 points, 458 - 6 points, 488 - 9 points. The 488 won on looks, driving pleasure, performance and sound. The later did surprise me as it is a turbo.
Is that the car guys TV video? They have some great content, met Damien breifly at a Ferrari event and is a real enthusiast.

I've just traded both my 458 and my 488 for a Speciale. I always preferred the looks and the sound of the 458 (apart from the annoying on/off blare in RACE) over the 488 but thought the 488 did everything else just that little bit better. It's a tough choice and I think really comes down to personal preference.