360 story and engine rebuild

360 story and engine rebuild

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Bebs

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2,855 posts

236 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
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dereksharpuk said:
This is a really excellent series of posts. Thank you Beeb. The moral is obvious. I once had a Jaguar E Type which had an engine part rebuild where a short cut was taken. That resulted in a full rebuild some 1000 miles later. Personally, I would always use a maintenance outlet that I can trust. Saving a few pennies can cost you many pounds later.
Thanks for reading and taking an interest thumbup

Roof down

226 posts

81 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Great read, Ed and Aldous are the best of the best, one question though, whilst your gearbox is out and in partial strip down would it be wise to at least pop a new set of synchros in.
I only say because on the 360 I had third gear went at just 33k.
If I buy another Ferrari and I think I might, these gentleman are the only ones I would use, indeed Harvey would have to source it for me in the first place.
Mike

Bebs

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236 months

Saturday 28th December 2019
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I’m fairly certain AV will check the state of the gearbox anyhow but I’ll ask what, if anything, we should do to it.

Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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The aforementioned bottom cover that was cracked and needed sourcing,rather than pay thousands for a new one, has arrived and has been fitted.





Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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The bushes on the timing belt tensioner arms had completely seized, a common trait on 360s, and since they’re only a few quid they’ve been renewed also.
New Hill Engineering tensioner bearings have also been fitted. AV were now in a position to fit belts and start dialing in the cam timing.
Looks like it’s all going together nicely.




Rusty old v polished back up:




Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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The new gearbox oil cooler has also arrived and has been fitted.. below old versus new cooler



Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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Rather than use the standard factory cam settings, AV are spending a lot of time dialing in the exact settings with dial gauges and degree wheel on the crank. All four cams are set using this method. Cam setup is critical on these engines and can make a huge impact on power output.






Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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Next to be installed were valve covers, wiring harness, water pump, inlet manifold, plugs, coils and cam sensors:





Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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AV Engineering now turned their attention to the gearbox. I felt it was worth spending some hours taking the cassette out of the casing and having a good look around given the mileage it has covered.
When the gearbox was inspected originally on removal, Aldous found a slight oil leak from the plug. Now that it’s apart it has become apparent that somebody, at some stage, have over torqued the plug, destroying the thread.. old silicone was smothered all around it in an attempt to seal it.
You can see on the photo below how the plug actually sits at an angle because of the destroyed thread!





The correct solution is to try and helicoil a new thread into the casing and AV are now attempting to do just that.
In terms of the actual gear cassette itself, it is apparently in remarkably good condition given the 105,000 miles and requires nothing! Phew! Clearly ‘one careful owner’ hehe




Bebs

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Sunday 12th January
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Attention has been turned to the engine bay which obviously had signs of wear and tear after 105,000 miles:




Stripped and painted frame, its starting to look like a new car:




FezSpider

603 posts

187 months

Sunday 12th January
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Coming along very nicely, thanks for the update. Going to be ready for spring ey, roll on the summer biggrin

mike01606

523 posts

104 months

Sunday 12th January
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Should run like a charm and fit for another 100k. Thanks for taking the time to post. I love these threads...

nebpor

406 posts

190 months

Monday 13th January
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Loved reading your fantastic write up - thank you!

Vivakenaldo

20 posts

31 months

Tuesday 14th January
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What a great thread . Who needs Netflix when you have this tread to look forward to .I can’t wait for the next instalment .

Your 360 should break record mileage when it’s finished .

BlackR8

329 posts

32 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Fantastic thread, looking forward to seeing it come back together. The guys at AV are great at what they do.

Bebs

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Tuesday 14th January
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Thank you for the kind comments guys. I will keep the updates coming thumbup

RevsPerMinute

1,697 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Bebs said:
Thank you for the kind comments guys. I will keep the updates coming thumbup
Great thread and very interesting.

Do we know how the damage occurred to that bevel gear on the oil pump?

It appears that you are perhaps paying the price for some poor work previously carried out on the car. Obviously without naming and shaming, are you aware of who may have done this (particularly the incorrect R M seal)? Who previously serviced the car - seemingly well recommended indi's? I assume you haven't used a main dealer for some time, given the age and mileage of the car.

Bebs

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Tuesday 14th January
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RevsPerMinute said:
Great thread and very interesting.

Do we know how the damage occurred to that bevel gear on the oil pump?

It appears that you are perhaps paying the price for some poor work previously carried out on the car. Obviously without naming and shaming, are you aware of who may have done this (particularly the incorrect R M seal)? Who previously serviced the car - seemingly well recommended indi's? I assume you haven't used a main dealer for some time, given the age and mileage of the car.
We can only really attribute the bevel gear damage to metal fatigue/factory parts issue or wear and tear. The oil pump has never been touched or opened.

Yes I know exactly who put the incorrect R M seal on the car unfortunately.. an independent ‘specialist’ COUGH, whom I won’t mention here.

Kyodo

645 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th January
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I've been following this thread with interest and yesterday I had the chance to have a good look at your engine and box, along with your lovely car at AV when I dropped our 360 off for its service and a few bits.

As a fellow owner it's really interesting to see the innards of the heart of the car, also to know your car's in safe hands. I bet you can't wait to get it back smile

RevsPerMinute

1,697 posts

176 months

Thursday 16th January
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Bebs said:
We can only really attribute the bevel gear damage to metal fatigue/factory parts issue or wear and tear. The oil pump has never been touched or opened.

Yes I know exactly who put the incorrect R M seal on the car unfortunately.. an independent ‘specialist’ COUGH, whom I won’t mention here.
A DM of who would be appreciated just so I know who to avoid!