McLaren-Lite... ?

McLaren-Lite... ?

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carspath

Original Poster:

538 posts

126 months

Monday 13th January
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The 570S …. one just cant ignore what fantastic value it is on the 2nd hand market .
It looks good , has dihedral doors , and fantastic performance .
What's not to like ?


Well the :
- warranty costs ( which increases significantly past the 5 year point ) ,
- inconsistent build quality
- absence of a manual transmission
- presence of numerous advanced electronic systems




I spoke to John Thorney at the Beaulieu meet , and he said something very interesting :

'' a 9 man team designed the 12-C , and 7 of them were ex-Lotus ''





Bispal ( from this PH sub-forum ) , speaking from personal experience of both marques , seems to echo this sentiment




So , is the Elise / Exige the best of both worlds ( in the real world ) if you are not bothered by the lack of a prestigious nose badge ?


andrew

8,865 posts

141 months

Monday 13th January
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carspath said:
The 570S …. one just cant ignore what fantastic value it is on the 2nd hand market .
It looks good , has dihedral doors , and fantastic performance .
What's not to like ?


Well the :
- warranty costs ( which increases significantly past the 5 year point ) ,
- inconsistent build quality
- absence of a manual transmission
- presence of numerous advanced electronic systems




I spoke to John Thorney at the Beaulieu meet , and he said something very interesting :

'' a 9 man team designed the 12-C , and 7 of them were ex-Lotus ''





Bispal ( from this PH sub-forum ) , speaking from personal experience of both marques , seems to echo this sentiment




So , is the Elise / Exige the best of both worlds ( in the real world ) if you are not bothered by the lack of a prestigious nose badge ?
ahem. new esprit...

LotusJas

950 posts

180 months

Monday 13th January
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carspath said:
So , is the Elise / Exige the best of both worlds ( in the real world ) if you are not bothered by the lack of a prestigious nose badge ?
No it's not.

The 570S is what the Elise/Exige could have become had Lotus not effectively failed, and is *far* superior in every way. I say that as a huge Lotus fan.

carspath

Original Poster:

538 posts

126 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Hi Andrew .... Agree with the new Esprit , but will it ever come to market ? Also it will pro be packed with electronics , which carries attendant problems .

Lotusjas .. again agree that the Mclarens are superior on every objective measurable parameter .
Hence the Lite comment .
Also , I wonder if the ownership proposition with the Lotus might be kinder , but just as fulfilling for road only use ?

indapendentlee

347 posts

48 months

Tuesday 14th January
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I'd say that the closest in essence would be the Alpine A110 - Lotuses/Loti/Lotus just feel a little bit too stripped back to be a mini McLaren - the day to day creds of most of McLaren's range are way beyond those of any Lotus.

Adz man

325 posts

108 months

Tuesday 14th January
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The 570S Spider looks unbelievable value for value

LotusJas

950 posts

180 months

Tuesday 14th January
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carspath said:
Also , I wonder if the ownership proposition with the Lotus might be kinder , but just as fulfilling for road only use ?
Kinder to your wallet - yes absolutely!

Just as fulfilling for road use - not even close I'm afraid.

justin220

4,296 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Ex Lotus owner here and current McLaren owner. For me the Lotus are too compromised for most things, certainly the Elise and Exige.

The Evora is more like a cut price McLaren. My old one actually was mistaken for one a couple of times. Great cars