612 or Cali?

612 or Cali?

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vonders

Original Poster:

16 posts

28 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Looking to get a 612 or Cali v1. I’ve driven a Cali before,
loved it and its dual nature. Felt like both a GT and sports car when pushing. Gearbox, Engine, Handling all excellent. Also liked the cabin.

Tempted by a 612. They are ageing well. Look stealth in black. V12 mystique.

Is the 612 a whole new ball game? Or too old to consider now?
16 year old car vs 10 year old car - quite a jump.

Narrowed down to these two due to budget and need for rear seats. I found the Cali rear seats usable just about for 2+1.




Mattjevans

143 posts

41 months

Wednesday 15th January
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If you liked the Cali, you may find the 612 gearbox a bit, not to beat around the bush, st.

vonders

Original Poster:

16 posts

28 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Would the v12 majesty make up for that? Last single clutch auto I used was a 997 tip. It was ok

BobTurner

367 posts

159 months

Wednesday 15th January
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vonders said:
Would the v12 majesty make up for that? Last single clutch auto I used was a 997 tip. It was ok
997 tip had a torque converter, didn't it?

Mogul

2,418 posts

172 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Early 612 cars used the late-model 575M's F1 transmission and single-plate dry clutch which was already pretty much sorted but later on, the 612 Sessanta and One-To-One (OTO) editions acquired the 599s improved twin-plate dry clutch. You’ll pay more for one of these but hard to argue that’s unreasonable.

Love the idea of smoking around in a late 612 (could just about forgive some of the Fisher-Price TFT screens so long as the upholstery was still in as-new condition. California? Not so much.


ANOpax

128 posts

115 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Price wise, some of the late OTO 612s are close to FF territory which is a whole different (and better) kettle of fish.

vonders

Original Poster:

16 posts

28 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Cheers for the heads up on the gearbox nuances. Will have to go test drive one see if I get on with it.

FF super tempting but need a few more years of depreciation

hunter 66

2,926 posts

169 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Yes gearbox slow , although putting it in sport helped a bit , but that is part of the appeal , it is a GT car for the family and much more aesthetic than the FF ( it has aged well ) . Had one for 4 years now back in a Porsche GT3 RS . and I miss the old Ferrari in a way , it was a gentlemans Ferrari .

kman

1,063 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Saw today that DK have just advertised an OTO 612. Looks stunning! Design wise I find them a bit too big (same as with the FF/812).

vonders

Original Poster:

16 posts

28 months

Wednesday 15th January
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Lovely example. After checking their stock I’ve fallen in love with one of their cars - the dark blue 355 gts. Unbelievable

thecook101

697 posts

64 months

Thursday
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Drive a robotised manual with the same finesse as you would standard manual instead of expecting a synthesised PlayStation experience, and you'll discover that the later F1 gearbox implementations are joy to drive. Subtle feathering on upshift and a dab of throttle on aggressive downshifts and you get much of the the nuance of a manual shift without your hands leaving the wheel - exactly what it was designed to do. In my opinion, those that write it off have not learned, or are too impatient, to use them properly. Certainly don't dismiss the 612 on the basis of it's gearbox, which coupled to a gloriously smooth V12 makes for sublime grand tourer.

vonders

Original Poster:

16 posts

28 months

Thursday
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Good point. Sounds like the gearbox suits the 612. I think a well driven 2005ish black or TDF is the way to go looking at values. Does the roof have leather lining?

ANOpax

128 posts

115 months

Thursday
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vonders said:
Good point. Sounds like the gearbox suits the 612. I think a well driven 2005ish black or TDF is the way to go looking at values. Does the roof have leather lining?
Avoid black unless you want to spend your life cleaning and detailing it.

vonders

Original Poster:

16 posts

28 months

Thursday
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Anything that gets me out the house is a winner

Mr Cod

113 posts

53 months

Thursday
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Anybody know anything about the Cat C one that is currently for sale?

https://www.essexprestigeautos.co.uk/used-ferrari-...

jtremlett

783 posts

171 months

Thursday
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Mr Cod said:
Anybody know anything about the Cat C one that is currently for sale?

https://www.essexprestigeautos.co.uk/used-ferrari-...
I don't know anything about the damage. It was Grigio Silverstone originally, so I assume the colour was changed when it was repaired.

Also, it was previously for sale in late 2017 (23k miles, asking £69,990) but no mention of Cat C then although it was already black at that point.


Edited by jtremlett on Thursday 16th January 18:02

dvb247

245 posts

147 months

Saturday
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oh know thats really bad news, why did they change the colour? Ive got some of the bills sent over when I enquired, all second hand front end parts from UK and USA, no bill from the workshop!.