Ferrari new boy wanting to scratch an itch!

Ferrari new boy wanting to scratch an itch!

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JulianPH

Original Poster:

5,909 posts

66 months

Thursday 26th March
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Hi all

I've not posted here before as I have never owned a Ferrari, but @500 Miles has now made me consider this.

The only Italian metal I have owned was the Maserati GranTurismo when it was first launched (I loved it).

Other than that I have been fairly straight (Porsche, etc.) and currently have an Aston Martin DB9 and a Bentley Continental GT (and the obvious Range Rover!).

But whilst I am still clinging to my 40’s the Ferrari itch needs to be scratched.

I prefer the older models and whilst I realise that these can be money pits I would like something that is not going to be too heavy per mile (it will probably cover very small milage when rotated with my other cars) and not drop in value like a rock (I understand this is guesswork).

My initial thoughts are entry level cars to try the brand and take it from there, but equally to try and get it right first time.

So far I am looking at these:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

https://www.tfcgb.com/used-cars/10762558-ferrari-3...

Any thoughts or other ideas?

beer


Editd to add this lovely 355 GTS!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...



Edited by JulianPH on Thursday 26th March 01:21

Larry5.2

450 posts

60 months

Thursday 26th March
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The 360 is a lovely car with the right mix of involvement (read lack of nanny aids), performance and technology. The looks have aged really well and they are well supported by specialists like AV Engineering. As for which one to choose - pick a colour, body style and gbox type, then get some PPIs...

Contrary to what most people think, mileage is not an issue. The less I use mine, the more it plays up with electrical niggles. They are quite robust but they eat suspension bearings. Make sure it has had regular recent servicing - if it missed a service in 2006, it's really not going to make any odds.

davek_964

6,560 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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I do like 355s, but that's an awful lot of cash......

As said above, 360s are generally pretty solid - although mine had a rather unfortunate bill last year. They are damn good cars though - much much more involving than Porsche in my opinion, and my ~20 year old one still compares pretty well to my 5 year old McLaren.

I was intending to put mine up for sale this week, but the end of the world has made me delay that (and it's no good to you anyway because it has a roof and your links suggest that's a bad thing!).

JulianPH

Original Poster:

5,909 posts

66 months

Thursday 26th March
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Thanks guys, I would very much like a 355 GTS, but I think they are now very toppy price wise (but I was very wrong when I sold my 996 Turbo S for one third of what it would cost today, so what do I know! smile)

I think it is a toss up between the red and black 360's I linked to.

I think the black on looks less in-your-face, but I also think your first Ferrari should really be red! biggrin




Sarnie

6,413 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th March
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Buy a manual, Julian!

markiii

1,341 posts

146 months

Thursday 26th March
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I have never been a great fan of silver Ferraris or the interior of the 360 but that first one looks lovely

As a car I prefer the 355 but if your looking at the F1 gearbox then I believe the 360 variant was better

Red 360 is my least favourite of the ones you posted

328 is i would suggest going to be a lot more agricultural than the others. This may or may not be a good thing depending on what you are after. From memory the driving position is an acquired taste


Oaky

9 posts

124 months

Thursday 26th March
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Julian - one third of what a 996 Turbo S would cost today? They haven’t been that volatile

davek_964

6,560 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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JulianPH said:
I think the black on looks less in-your-face, but I also think your first Ferrari should really be red! biggrin
My first Ferrari was red - I made sure my second one wasn't, and it does get a lot less attention - which is what I wanted (although since then I've bought an orange car, so that doesn't really make sense....).
But - I've got to say - much as I think my 360 looks great - a red one looks a whole lot better. I think red really suits the 360 shape.

Oaky said:
Julian - one third of what a 996 Turbo S would cost today? They haven’t been that volatile
Maybe not quite that much, but they did increase in price a lot. I bought my one owner, 20k mile car when it was 7 years old from a dealer for ~£36k. I sold it almost 6 years later, with just over 60k on the clock for the same. I was happy with that, but it's worth a fair chunk more than that now. (Well, it was 2 weeks ago anyway, maybe not now)

Lee Jones Jnr

50 posts

122 months

Thursday 26th March
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Be prepared for it to feel VERY old and basic.
I bought a 360 when I was 27 which is 9 years ago now and even then it was a bit of a shock how old it felt.
I drove mine as a daily and had no issues with it. Servicing was quite expensive, just under £4k including MOT and a few bushes etc, though that was at a main dealer and there are plenty of respected Indies around.
As has been said, whilst a bit tacky, a first Ferrari should be red.
The exterior still looks great though even back then the interior looked a bit dated. I refreshed mine a bit by replacing all the aluminium parts inside with carbon fibre, Walkersport did the spanner work for me but I believe that its pretty easy to take apart.

Edited by Lee Jones Jnr on Thursday 26th March 18:11

davek_964

6,560 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th March
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It's subjective I guess, but mine doesn't feel old or basic - and certainly not 'very'.
It obviously doesn't have all the bells and whistles of modern cars, but when I'm driving it, I don't miss them.

Lee Jones Jnr

50 posts

122 months

Thursday 26th March
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davek_964 said:
It's subjective I guess, but mine doesn't feel old or basic - and certainly not 'very'.
It obviously doesn't have all the bells and whistles of modern cars, but when I'm driving it, I don't miss them.
I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it but I really am surprised that you disagree.

JulianPH

Original Poster:

5,909 posts

66 months

Thursday 26th March
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Sarnie said:
Buy a manual, Julian!
Hello mate, wasn't expecting to see you here!

I am just an old man these day who is used to flappy paddles!

I'll give you a bell in the morning, if that suits, to chat over this and other things.

biggrin


JulianPH

Original Poster:

5,909 posts

66 months

Thursday 26th March
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markiii said:
I have never been a great fan of silver Ferraris or the interior of the 360 but that first one looks lovely

As a car I prefer the 355 but if your looking at the F1 gearbox then I believe the 360 variant was better

Red 360 is my least favourite of the ones you posted

328 is i would suggest going to be a lot more agricultural than the others. This may or may not be a good thing depending on what you are after. From memory the driving position is an acquired taste
Hi Mark

I would agree.

At £10k cheaper I am bringing it back into play and the interior would suit a red wrap if needed,

smile



Larry5.2

450 posts

60 months

Friday 27th March
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
davek_964 said:
It's subjective I guess, but mine doesn't feel old or basic - and certainly not 'very'.
It obviously doesn't have all the bells and whistles of modern cars, but when I'm driving it, I don't miss them.
I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it but I really am surprised that you disagree.
It just goes to show how everyone wants different things from their supercars. Some of us want to drive them and be involved, while others want to be cocooned in luxury and technology.

In many ways, asking peoples's opinion on forum about a car is pointless because of everyone's different objective. You can present the physical facts about the car, but how it makes you feel is a completely different story.

Lee Jones Jnr

50 posts

122 months

Friday 27th March
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Larry5.2 said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
davek_964 said:
It's subjective I guess, but mine doesn't feel old or basic - and certainly not 'very'.
It obviously doesn't have all the bells and whistles of modern cars, but when I'm driving it, I don't miss them.
I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it but I really am surprised that you disagree.
It just goes to show how everyone wants different things from their supercars. Some of us want to drive them and be involved, while others want to be cocooned in luxury and technology.

In many ways, asking peoples's opinion on forum about a car is pointless because of everyone's different objective. You can present the physical facts about the car, but how it makes you feel is a completely different story.
I don’t think it does show that.
A 360 is an old car and it drives that way.
My surprise was not that somebody liked driving one or that it was what they wanted it to be, my surprise was that they didn’t think that it felt it’s age.
An Atom or a 2 Eleven (presumably 3 Eleven too but I haven’t driven one) are incredibly basic but they do not feel anything like as dates as a 360 behind the wheel.
I fully accept that how a car feels is relative to what other cars a person has driven and thoughts on such things can easily be coloured by ones romantic notions of a given car.
For example the F1 gearbox is an oft maligned bit of technology and how dated it was was a common complaint even back then, but it always felt great to me.

davek_964

6,560 posts

127 months

Friday 27th March
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Well, regardless of how surprised you are - my 360 has never felt like an old car to me. I think it has a focused interior (rather than "old"), and it never feels old or dated when I drive it.
The 348 that I had ~8 years ago - which I guess was similar age at the time - did feel old / dated.

Lee Jones Jnr

50 posts

122 months

Friday 27th March
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‘It has never felt like an old car TO ME’ illustrates exactly the point I was making in my previous post. It simply IS an old car and how it feels to an individual will very much be relative to whatever else they are used to. Relative to a 348, no, it won’t feel old.
The OP is used to a DB9, a CGT and a Range Rover which whilst all may be relatively old now, are a very different drive and certainly will feel much more modern than a 360.
I bought my 360 knowing that it felt much older and more basic than the car it replaced, I’m not attacking the car or anyone who has one or wants one now.

davek_964

6,560 posts

127 months

Friday 27th March
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
‘It has never felt like an old car TO ME’ illustrates exactly the point I was making in my previous post. It simply IS an old car and how it feels to an individual will very much be relative to whatever else they are used to. Relative to a 348, no, it won’t feel old.
The OP is used to a DB9, a CGT and a Range Rover which whilst all may be relatively old now, are a very different drive and certainly will feel much more modern than a 360.
I bought my 360 knowing that it felt much older and more basic than the car it replaced, I’m not attacking the car or anyone who has one or wants one now.
The flaw in your logic is that you don't know what cars I'm comparing it to.
The fact remains that some cars feel their age more than others. For me, the 360 does not.

cgt2

1,456 posts

140 months

Friday 27th March
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My E30 M3 was pretty old. And I loved it!

MDL111

4,248 posts

129 months

Friday 27th March
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God that silver 360 looks good - need to stop looking at cars, I could take myself into that being good value for money