Any info on this 458?

Any info on this 458?

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johnnyreggae

2,581 posts

124 months

Tuesday 6th April
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EvoSid said:
do tyres have a max shelf life like Porsche insist (6 years max)
Tyre life is not down to the car's manufacturer but the tyres' so Kwikfit do/did have this as an overall recommendation on their site

And as has been said here many times if your tyres aren't worn out by then you should be using your car more and/or you should not be risking your life and that of others on the limited grip tyres give as they age

Order66

6,520 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th April
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EvoSid said:
I have no doubt they will but at what cost
Which brings me onto my next point
What does it cost to service a 458? Is it an annual service and if so how mcuh roughly
How long do Brake pads and tyres last roughly and do tyres have a max shelf life like Porsche insist (6 years max)
Annual service depens on quite what is needed but you'll be looking about a £1000-£1500 for main dealer Ferrari stamp. Ceramic brakes which are very kind on wear. At 9k miles my discs were 2% worn and I would reasonable expect them to basically survive the life of the car unless they get damaged. Pad wear also seems very low, at 15k my pads still looked basically new (with purely road driving, track use would be different, but then you'd be insane to track with the ceramics on).

As above, Ferrari have no rules on tyres, it's up to the owner to decide on condition of their tyres.

adamellisdj

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300 posts

2 months

Tuesday 6th April
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I’m lucky to have a Supercar centre in sheffield ran by 2 ex Graypaul Ferrari master technicians. Full Ferrari diagnostic equipment etc.

Annual service is £450

Mental paying a main dealer to do the exact same thing for £1300. No thanks.

Edited by adamellisdj on Tuesday 6th April 09:50

Lee Jones Jnr

966 posts

134 months

Tuesday 6th April
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EvoSid said:
I have no doubt they will but at what cost
Which brings me onto my next point
What does it cost to service a 458? Is it an annual service and if so how mcuh roughly
How long do Brake pads and tyres last roughly and do tyres have a max shelf life like Porsche insist (6 years max)
I imagine it varies dealer by dealer.
Carrs in Exeter didn’t charge me to pick mine up but that’s because I didn’t care about waiting for a bit of cosmetic work that was missed before collection so waited until it went in for service.
That’s a 200 mile trip in each direction.

Order66

6,520 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th April
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adamellisdj said:
Mental paying a main dealer to do the exact same thing for £1300. No thanks.
Depends how long you keep the car. I'd still say 458s are at the age where you get market benefit for full dealer stamp.

7GJR

120 posts

61 months

Tuesday 6th April
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adamellisdj said:
I’m lucky to have a Supercar centre in sheffield ran by 2 ex Graypaul Ferrari master technicians. Full Ferrari diagnostic equipment etc.

Annual service is £450

Mental paying a main dealer to do the exact same thing for £1300. No thanks.

Edited by adamellisdj on Tuesday 6th April 09:50
Again, very little point buying a pristine example and having it serviced at a non main dealer. Prospective purchasers could be put off and you might reduce the chance of Ferrari buying it back (or trade-in) if you ever need to liquidate. Yes, it’s punchy to service at a main dealer - but that’s factored in by many as part and parcel of Ferrari ownership.

adamellisdj

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300 posts

2 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Yeah, I see what you guys are saying. It makes sense.

Maybe it is worth going with the main dealer until sure I am not looking to re sell.

willy wombat

550 posts

112 months

Tuesday 6th April
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I’ve lost track of how old your car is, Adam, but doesn’t it have one or two free main dealer services left under the seven year service plan?

adamellisdj

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300 posts

2 months

Tuesday 6th April
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willy wombat said:
I’ve lost track of how old your car is, Adam, but doesn’t it have one or two free main dealer services left under the seven year service plan?
November 2014 buddy.

So I think no servicing. They didn’t mention it but let me ask.

Taffy66

4,426 posts

66 months

Tuesday 6th April
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adamellisdj said:
willy wombat said:
I’ve lost track of how old your car is, Adam, but doesn’t it have one or two free main dealer services left under the seven year service plan?
November 2014 buddy.

So I think no servicing. They didn’t mention it but let me ask.
The next service for your 458 is free but needs to be carried out before the seventh anniversary. The first service which you have to pay for will be November 2022. I paid about £800 for the first cost service for my 458 which was at DL Swindon. If you have any sense you'll take it back to them once a year for its service as a full Ferrari Main dealer service history will add thousands to the value.

adamellisdj

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300 posts

2 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Taffy66 said:
adamellisdj said:
willy wombat said:
I’ve lost track of how old your car is, Adam, but doesn’t it have one or two free main dealer services left under the seven year service plan?
November 2014 buddy.

So I think no servicing. They didn’t mention it but let me ask.
The next service for your 458 is free but needs to be carried out before the seventh anniversary. The first service which you have to pay for will be November 2022. I paid about £800 for the first cost service for my 458 which was at DL Swindon. If you have any sense you'll take it back to them once a year for its service as a full Ferrari Main dealer service history will add thousands to the value.
Oh really. Fantastic.

Surprised no one told me this info.

Only issue is it’s a 7 hour round trip to DL

Ferrari Nottingham is round the corner 45 mins.

They will suffice no?

Petrus1983

4,769 posts

126 months

Tuesday 6th April
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adamellisdj said:
Oh really. Fantastic.

Surprised no one told me this info.

Only issue is it’s a 7 hour round trip to DL

Ferrari Nottingham is round the corner 45 mins.

They will suffice no?
They will definitely suffice - no one would expect you to return to the purchasing dealership.

Durzel

9,707 posts

132 months

Tuesday 6th April
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7GJR said:
adamellisdj said:
I’m lucky to have a Supercar centre in sheffield ran by 2 ex Graypaul Ferrari master technicians. Full Ferrari diagnostic equipment etc.

Annual service is £450

Mental paying a main dealer to do the exact same thing for £1300. No thanks.

Edited by adamellisdj on Tuesday 6th April 09:50
Again, very little point buying a pristine example and having it serviced at a non main dealer. Prospective purchasers could be put off and you might reduce the chance of Ferrari buying it back (or trade-in) if you ever need to liquidate. Yes, it’s punchy to service at a main dealer - but that’s factored in by many as part and parcel of Ferrari ownership.
+1

I would've thought there would be some wiggle room with main dealers if you say you've had a price to service it from X for Y. I doubt it'll be the first time they've had that conversation even if they do have some customers who just write a blank cheque. When I had my 458 serviced and it needed 4 tyres I got a price from Ferrari (DL Swindon too) and they wanted a considerable amount more than I could source them for myself, so that's what I did. I refuse to pay ~£500 more to a main dealer for the same rubber as I can get for near zero effort elsewhere, but I can also appreciate the residual value in a main dealer service stamp, beyond just the work done.

For what it's worth the two times DL Swindon serviced my car they were competitive on price.

As an aside, to touch on Taffy66's point before, I wasn't getting the sense that people were being sniffy about finance? Isn't it pretty ubiquitous with supercar ownership? Often the capital can be made to work better elsewhere, and some owners may be happy enough to be in the 3 year replacement cycle, as with any other car.

adamellisdj

Original Poster:

300 posts

2 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Durzel said:
7GJR said:
adamellisdj said:
I’m lucky to have a Supercar centre in sheffield ran by 2 ex Graypaul Ferrari master technicians. Full Ferrari diagnostic equipment etc.

Annual service is £450

Mental paying a main dealer to do the exact same thing for £1300. No thanks.

Edited by adamellisdj on Tuesday 6th April 09:50
Again, very little point buying a pristine example and having it serviced at a non main dealer. Prospective purchasers could be put off and you might reduce the chance of Ferrari buying it back (or trade-in) if you ever need to liquidate. Yes, it’s punchy to service at a main dealer - but that’s factored in by many as part and parcel of Ferrari ownership.
+1

I would've thought there would be some wiggle room with main dealers if you say you've had a price to service it from X for Y. I doubt it'll be the first time they've had that conversation even if they do have some customers who just write a blank cheque. When I had my 458 serviced and it needed 4 tyres I got a price from Ferrari (DL Swindon too) and they wanted a considerable amount more than I could source them for myself, so that's what I did. I refuse to pay ~£500 more to a main dealer for the same rubber as I can get for near zero effort elsewhere, but I can also appreciate the residual value in a main dealer service stamp, beyond just the work done.

For what it's worth the two times DL Swindon serviced my car they were competitive on price.

As an aside, to touch on Taffy66's point before, I wasn't getting the sense that people were being sniffy about finance? Isn't it pretty ubiquitous with supercar ownership? Often the capital can be made to work better elsewhere, and some owners may be happy enough to be in the 3 year replacement cycle, as with any other car.
Great post mate. Noted too.

Nah not one person had any untoward comments regarding finance. I’d guess most do it. Like you said, your money can be made to work a lot more efficiently than sunk in a car

Taffy66

4,426 posts

66 months

Tuesday 6th April
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adamellisdj said:
Oh really. Fantastic.

Surprised no one told me this info.

Only issue is it’s a 7 hour round trip to DL

Ferrari Nottingham is round the corner 45 mins.

They will suffice no?
I didn't realise you were so far in which case Graypaul Nottingham will provide the same service and assurance. I have had dealings with them on new wheels and found them very helpful.

EvoSid

911 posts

27 months

Wednesday 7th April
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johnnyreggae said:
Tyre life is not down to the car's manufacturer but the tyres' so Kwikfit do/did have this as an overall recommendation on their site

And as has been said here many times if your tyres aren't worn out by then you should be using your car more and/or you should not be risking your life and that of others on the limited grip tyres give as they age
Porsche say tyres over 6 years invalidates their warranty according to OPC. I guess their warranty so their rules.
But I agree tyre life could vary depending on many factors,

EvoSid

911 posts

27 months

Wednesday 7th April
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adamellisdj said:
Yeah, I see what you guys are saying. It makes sense.

Maybe it is worth going with the main dealer until sure I am not looking to re sell.
Get a quote and haggle , worse they can do is take a few pounds off . Surely worth a try as every pound of discount is a pound you can spend elsewhere surely

EvoSid

911 posts

27 months

Wednesday 7th April
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adamellisdj said:
Oh really. Fantastic.

Surprised no one told me this info.

Only issue is it’s a 7 hour round trip to DL

Ferrari Nottingham is round the corner 45 mins.

They will suffice no?
You mean seven hours of fun driving , plus stay the night and treat Mrs Adam to some wining and dining , always help with he next car purchase


swanseaboydan

343 posts

127 months

Wednesday 7th April
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Tie in a trip to dick Lovett Swindon with a night or 2 At lucknam park - one of the nicest spa hotels I’ve been to . . A cab ride ( or courtesy car ride) from DL Swindon

GCCP

864 posts

196 months

Thursday 8th April
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swanseaboydan said:
Tie in a trip to dick Lovett Swindon with a night or 2 At lucknam park - one of the nicest spa hotels I’ve been to . . A cab ride ( or courtesy car ride) from DL Swindon
or castle combe hotel, or whatley manor... wink