Any info on this 458?

Any info on this 458?

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Petrus1983

4,808 posts

127 months

Thursday 29th April
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Congrats - epic.

NSC79

87 posts

42 months

Thursday 29th April
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Nice one, Adam...

You now know what I mean about taking it in! Get in it and drive to somewhere quiet in the peaks. Sit down and look at it without everyone asking you questions etc etc.

Cheers

swanseaboydan

410 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th April
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It’s been a very enjoyable thread OP so please keep it up as we all feel we are enjoying the excitement with you - so let us know how your first few drives go .
Good on you for taking the plunge, life is short - enjoy the spring and summer in your car - and if you are ever in South Wales, let me know !

Francois de La Rochefoucauld

331 posts

43 months

Thursday 29th April
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adamellisdj said:
Francois de La Rochefoucauld said:
Car looks great, well done.

Could you let me know how much the seat re-trim was? I particularly like the blue accents. The colour is similar to that in my 488, I may have to copy you.
Yes mate, absolutely.


Seats
Back panel behind seats
Red Belts

£3408 all in

Don’t know the individual pricing. But speak to John at Btrim in Kent.

Highly recommended.
Super, thanks for the info!

Akajak

800 posts

204 months

Thursday 29th April
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Tint or no tint it’s a special car; enjoy

fridaypassion

5,490 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th April
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Congrats Adam very special day getting your first Fez you only get that once!


pocty

1,032 posts

244 months

Thursday 29th April
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Beautiful car buddy. It's a special car. I just know you will enjoy it. Enjoy the car and come back and tell us how great a drivers car it is.

Pocty

adamellisdj

Original Poster:

389 posts

3 months

Friday 30th April
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Have to sort Navtrack and GAP today as well as figuring the car radio stuff and controls.

The fitted cover for the 458 isn’t too fitted either, so have to sort that.

Yesterday was extremely overwhelming with traffic and rain on my drive. I’m taking her out this morning when it’s quiet and dry.

I’ve never had ceramics before. They’re very odd and tbh feel crap vs the m4 and amg. That’s my main negative of the car. That and a few other niggles, like the mirrors not folding when locking lol. So strange they make you press a button first.

But they’re not big deals. Just got to get use to them.

Gear shifts on the paddle seem rough and jilted too. It shuns you forward. Maybe that’s my timing and engine revs. Unsure, but most likely.

Overall it exceeds expectations in sheer beauty and performance. It feels SO fast and sounds epic, even stock. It’s going to be absolutely savage with the exhaust setup in a few weeks.

Nothing but positive reactions so far and people who seeminglg either don’t give a fk or pretend to not give a fk haha.

Il keep everyone updated but please, if you have nothing constructive to say, keep it to yourself. Sick of the negative vibes in this post from apparent enthusiasts.



F20CN16

8,410 posts

163 months

Friday 30th April
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I’ve driven a 458 and felt the same shunting when changing with paddles. It was an experience car (at Thruxton) so I put it down to that. I’m sure an owner will come along later to help.

swanseaboydan

410 posts

128 months

Friday 30th April
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Ceramics are very grabby and noisy until they warm up - the f1 gearbox can also be a bit clunky until it is warmed up

Petrus1983

4,808 posts

127 months

Friday 30th April
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I think you’ll have to learn how to use the ceramic brakes - they need to get up to temperature or will be less effective than a high performance standard system.

swanseaboydan

410 posts

128 months

Friday 30th April
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If you are a slow driver like me - they are not worth having !

Order66

6,527 posts

214 months

Friday 30th April
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adamellisdj said:
I’ve never had ceramics before. They’re very odd and tbh feel crap vs the m4 and amg. That’s my main negative of the car.
458 brakes are not its best point. Poor compared to other ceramic equipped cars, and poor compared to other Ferrari with ceramics. They need some heat to start working and even then need a strong pedal-press to work, as if they are set up for only left foot braking - which isn't the smoothest if not fully "on it". When cold they are outright dangerous.

adamellisdj said:
Gear shifts on the paddle seem rough and jilted too. It shuns you forward. Maybe that’s my timing and engine revs. Unsure, but most likely.
Race mode? Switch to sport or wet and they should be buttery smooth. In race there is a definite shunt in the back, but I guess you've got it in race for the sound (hence a valve controller is king).
adamellisdj said:
Il keep everyone updated but please, if you have nothing constructive to say, keep it to yourself. Sick of the negative vibes in this post from apparent enthusiasts.
Suck it up buttercup, this is a public forum, you don't get to dictate who can post or what they say, especially being quite so vocal about what you've done to your car - if you expected only plaudits this is the wrong place.

Order66

6,527 posts

214 months

Friday 30th April
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swanseaboydan said:
Ceramics are very grabby and noisy until they warm up - the f1 gearbox can also be a bit clunky until it is warmed up
It's is very much NOT an F1 gearbox

Taffy66

4,463 posts

67 months

Friday 30th April
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The brakes and twitchy throttle makes smooth progress a gradual learning curve. The 458 rewards ultra smooth and steady driver inputs which improves driving technique in general. These foibles were ironed out on the later 488 which some say caused a loss of character.

Drl22

568 posts

30 months

Friday 30th April
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As others have said you basically need to warm everything up. The ceramics are a little dangerous when cold and took me by surprise on my first drive in zero degree temperatures in Jan! They really need heat and the heat can be hard to retain in them too, less downshift engine breaking unless you’re on it and work them as much as you can early on.

The same can be said for the gearbox, what mode did you drive in? Race is easily the most aggressive and it is designed to be that way. But once things warm up you’ll find it a lot smoother, I always notice it most when cruising back home down my narrow roads near my house.

In short they are quite old school, proper cars that need to be driven properly to get the best, not like your old AMG which you can just jump in and go. You’ll get used to it.

Edit: looking at that cover I would personally leave that off all together until you get a new one or get your garage sorted, it looks way too loose!

Edited by Drl22 on Friday 30th April 08:20

Taffy66

4,463 posts

67 months

Friday 30th April
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Order66 said:
adamellisdj said:
I’ve never had ceramics before. They’re very odd and tbh feel crap vs the m4 and amg. That’s my main negative of the car.
458 brakes are not its best point. Poor compared to other ceramic equipped cars, and poor compared to other Ferrari with ceramics. They need some heat to start working and even then need a strong pedal-press to work, as if they are set up for only left foot braking - which isn't the smoothest if not fully "on it". When cold they are outright dangerous.

adamellisdj said:
Gear shifts on the paddle seem rough and jilted too. It shuns you forward. Maybe that’s my timing and engine revs. Unsure, but most likely.
Race mode? Switch to sport or wet and they should be buttery smooth. In race there is a definite shunt in the back, but I guess you've got it in race for the sound (hence a valve controller is king).
adamellisdj said:
Il keep everyone updated but please, if you have nothing constructive to say, keep it to yourself. Sick of the negative vibes in this post from apparent enthusiasts.
Suck it up buttercup, this is a public forum, you don't get to dictate who can post or what they say, especially being quite so vocal about what you've done to your car - if you expected only plaudits this is the wrong place.
Very good post which i agree with entirely.
The brakes on the 458 are its very worst feature which were transformed in the 488 which uses the LaFerrari ones.

Crazy4557

497 posts

159 months

Friday 30th April
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Absolutely love your new car looks great (apart from the tints) Enjoy your experiences with it most supercars are immense and in a few weeks time you'll have learnt to get the best out of it and discovered it's foibles. If you wanted a proper driver's car you should of got a McLaren laugh

As others have said this is a public forum where everyone say's what they want so you have to accept negative feedback, goes with the territory. What most people won't agree with is you blatantly breaking the law and shouting about it on here so accept the flak that you've had and will most likely continue to receive.

Car cover's suck, you'll most likely find that a PITA as you have to clean the car every time you want to cover it up, don't ask me how I know.

garystoybox

463 posts

82 months

Friday 30th April
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Taffy66 said:
Very good post which i agree with entirely.
The brakes on the 458 are its very worst feature which were transformed in the 488 which uses the LaFerrari ones.
I remember the day I picked up my first 458; first car with ceramics, which involved a trip down the A1 in persistent rain. I needed the brakes big time when a lorry pulled out in front of me.... absolutely nothing happened! Sat in the next lay-by for about 15 mins until I stopped shaking. They’ll be fine once you get used to them and you learn to keep the temperature in the pads.

Petrus1983

4,808 posts

127 months

Friday 30th April
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When new were ceramic brakes standard on the 458 or an option?