FF prices

[rumbled]

First an FF was for sale on CC, now the reg plate:
https://collectingcars.com/plates/v1-fff-number-pl...

Excuse the shameless plug...

[nickwhumph]

Does anyone know if the rear spoiler on this car is a Ferrari part of an aftermarket addition?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-FERRARI-FF-6-3-V12-3...

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nickwhumph said:

Does anyone know if the rear spoiler on this car is a Ferrari part of an aftermarket addition?

I don't remember there being an official one, I think this might be a Novitec stuck on job?
https://www.novitecgroup.com/assets/images/parts/F...

[VeeTenM]

Its actually Ferrari part number

https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/part/ferrari/842603...

https://www.atd-sportscars.com/en/parts/ferrari-ff...

[Van Dessel]

nickwhumph said:

Does anyone know if the rear spoiler on this car is a Ferrari part of an aftermarket addition?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-FERRARI-FF-6-3-V12-3...

£130k is a little spendy based on the rest of the market. Maybe these are the 1 car model which is bucking Covid crash?

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Van Dessel said:

£130k is a little spendy based on the rest of the market. Maybe these are the 1 car model which is bucking Covid crash?

I hope you're right as I'm thinking of putting mine up for sale once lock down is relaxed and the market settles down a bit.

[Van Dessel]

Finally a very nice, classic spec that isn't the bog-std black on black or dark gray on black: http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_F...

Is anyone familiar with any material running changes to the model besides the tech screen update in 2015? Anything crucial like PTU bug fixes or other software enhancements that create a watershed?

Thanks in advance.

[Not Ideal]

^^ that looks ace. Didn't know they had the passenger display in 2013 !

[catfood12]

Not Ideal said:

^^ that looks ace. Didn't know they had the passenger display in 2013 !

I have one in my 2012. I didn't know either until I went to see it. I though they were only in the GTC4. The FF one is monochrome only (like it all was in 2012)...

It's not a very common option at all.

[ANOpax]

Van Dessel said:

Finally a very nice, classic spec that isn't the bog-std black on black or dark gray on black: http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_F...

Is anyone familiar with any material running changes to the model besides the tech screen update in 2015? Anything crucial like PTU bug fixes or other software enhancements that create a watershed?

Thanks in advance.

Other than the Nav unit upgrade which you’ve highlighted, the only other option not available on early cars was the pano roof.

In terms of running changes, it’s a testament to how right the design and engineering was in the first place there are none throughout the life of the car save for better tie wraps in the gearbox from 2012 onwards. Early cars shared the same dodgy tie wraps which plagued all the DCT boxes In 2010-11 including those in the Cali and 458. Cost of repair (should they fail) is about 7.5k so if you’re looking at a 2011 and it’s cheap enough then you can take the risk as it’s fixable.

[priley]

Is that the same as the PTU fail? I assumed that was something unique to the gearbox at the front.

And that Joe Macari car is just perfect! The 037 they've just advertised would look good next to it too.

[ANOpax]

PTU is the front gearbox - unique to the FF and V12 Lussos. If they fail, they can be fixed now for 8k by Simon Furlonger or SS Autotech.

The rear gearbox is the DCT and it’s fitted to all Ferraris since 2009 starting with the Cali. The early DCT boxes had tie wraps which became brittle with heat and chafed the wiring loom causing the speed sensor to fail. Only Ferrari dealers have the training to rebuild the box to replace the speed sensor.

[priley]

Right. Thanks!

[George29]

I went to go and look at the red FF at Tom Hartley tonight. Seriously tempted by it. Is the nav upgrade just a software thing or does hardware need to be upgraded too?

What are they like to live with as a day to day car, probably covering about 15k/year?

Are there any major issues apart from the gearbox issues highlighted earlier in this thread (and I assume these would be covered by the Ferrari power warranty?)?

[F355GTS]

George29 said:

I went to go and look at the red FF at Tom Hartley tonight. Seriously tempted by it. Is the nav upgrade just a software thing or does hardware need to be upgraded too?

What are they like to live with as a day to day car, probably covering about 15k/year?

Are there any major issues apart from the gearbox issues highlighted earlier in this thread (and I assume these would be covered by the Ferrari power warranty?)?

The Nav upgrade is a completely different unit and even the dash is different I believe.

MDL's your man to know what they're like to live with as he does the miles, mines done around 5k miles a year and it's utterly fantastic

A major gearbox/ ptu issue would be covered by the warranty

[Not Ideal]

George29 said:

I went to go and look at the red FF at Tom Hartley tonight. Seriously tempted by it. Is the nav upgrade just a software thing or does hardware need to be upgraded too?

What are they like to live with as a day to day car, probably covering about 15k/year?

Are there any major issues apart from the gearbox issues highlighted earlier in this thread (and I assume these would be covered by the Ferrari power warranty?)?

Looks ace and seems to hide its miles well from the photos.

[F355GTS]

I'd add it's been on the market for a long long time 12 months+ and I think was on at £105k back then, definitely worth pushing for a deal. I met somebody that looked at it but didn't like the red painted dash part and also the lack of LED steering wheel, both very personal of course 👍

[George29]

F355GTS said:

I'd add it's been on the market for a long long time 12 months+ and I think was on at £105k back then, definitely worth pushing for a deal. I met somebody that looked at it but didn't like the red painted dash part and also the lack of LED steering wheel, both very personal of course ??

Cheers for that. The red dash was a bit different but I could live with it, and I actually want one without the LED steering wheel, and with no carbon so it ticks all the boxes for spec.

Might be a stupid question but I assume they’re ok with being left outside all the time rather than garaged?

Also is there a way to keep the valves open in the exhaust permanently? In Aston’s you just remove a fuse, not sure if there’s anything similar with Ferrari?

[George29]

Not Ideal said:

Looks ace and seems to hide its miles well from the photos.

It’s in really good condition to say it’s nearly 9 years old I was surprised

[Van Dessel]

I wonder as well how they would live outside on a permanent basis. In my home set-up I could wire a trickle charger through the hatchback no problem. I just wonder what the sun would do the dash leather...