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dwrights

254 posts

234 months

Sunday 7th August
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Hi,

I have the original CTEK Ferrari charger but I don't use it. I purchased a MXS 10 which has a AGM setting. I bit overkill but it does the job just fine.

I place the FF on tender about 3 nights a week.

Had the car around two months now and I can never see myself selling it. It's truly an epic drive, the sound of the V12 in sport mode is incredible plus you have the looks the scarcity, only eight FF's advertiedes at the moment.

It's so usable with four seats. We use it as our family hatchback.

Love the car to bits.


21ATS

869 posts

53 months

Sunday 7th August
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I went with the MXS 5, picked one up at halfords for £69.50 which seemed like a bargain. Then ordered the adapter from eBay as helpfully linked by ANOpax.

Whilst I was in there I thought I'd get some new wipers, that was a can of worms, couldn't find any to fit. So I came back home, did some Googling and discovered Ferrari use DENSO wipers on the later cars. About £150 or so from Ferrari and out of stock on the passenger side at all the usual outlets. So a bit more googling and I found the Denso part numbers which are as follows:-

Drivers side DU-070R
Passenger side DUR-043R
Rear DU-040R

eBay £59 later - 3x OEM wiper blades on their way.

As I was pulling out of the Halfords car park there was an 812GTS three cars in front of me. It was F Car day at Halfords Redhill today!

I have to agree with what you say about this car. I've wanted an FF for 5 years and it really isn't disappointing in the slightest. I have absolutely no idea what I would replace this with.

I picked it up yesterday and I have to admit, I was in an unfamiliar part of London, driving a car I'd never really driven before that was a V12 Ferrari on top of which none of the controls are where you expect them to be. I was a little intimidated.

One day later it's like I've never driven anything else. I find the indicators on the steering wheel very intuitive indeed. It raises smiles everywhere I go simply because it's so unusual. Non car people have no idea what it is, car people do and just seem to like seeing it.





Edited by 21ATS on Sunday 7th August 21:18

johnnyreggae

2,737 posts

141 months

Monday 8th August
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Congratulations & enjoy to the max - after you rejected every 550 & 575 for the last 5 years I doubted you'd ever commit !

21ATS

869 posts

53 months

Monday 8th August
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johnnyreggae said:
Congratulations & enjoy to the max - after you rejected every 550 & 575 for the last 5 years I doubted you'd ever commit !
Neither did I! Then the right car came along and it was deal done within an hour of making the enquiry.

MDL111

6,463 posts

158 months

Monday 8th August
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Congrats
FF is imo one of the best cars ever built. Does everything well. Last time I managed to squeeze a triathlon bike plus 2 passengers into the car

WCZ

9,569 posts

175 months

Monday 8th August
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what I like about FF's is how much they actually get used. they aren't posers cars, look at their mileage compared to other ferraris smile

21ATS

869 posts

53 months

Friday 12th August
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So 24 hours into ownership the FF sprang an oil leak which got progressively worse over the next 48hrs.

I'd elected to collect on Saturday rather than wait for it to be serviced this week, then get it in the service myself (the service was part of the sale of the car). So I'd done a few hundred miles over the weekend and it clearly was enough just to cause something that was about to fail, to fail.

I phoned the Ferrari dealer where it was going to be serviced and once I'd told them the area of the leak they told me not to drive it and get it recovered.

It has about 15 days left of New Power warranty - so Ferrari assistance got it recovered.

A hairline crack had appeared in the oil cooler and it was dripping oil out under pressure as the crack was getting larger daily.

So a new oil cooler is on it's way from Italy and the car will be serviced and back on the road with the new cooler in about a week hopefully.

The car was supplied by GVE, who were responsive and receptive to the problem. A failed fog light has also been discovered which GVE are covering.

So whilst it's a nuisance, it's better it happened now rather than another week or two down the line.

It also made my decision up about extending the warranty which I'll do. I realise it's not as comprehensive as the original factory warranty, but I want something that covers catastrophic gearbox/component failure so I'm not sweating as and when I see oil again, which is an inevitability on a car of this nature.

I had this car inspected by Ferrari at the end of July, plus GVE did their own checks and nothing showed up. So this is a problem that must have been right on the cusp of failure and my driving it a few hundered miles was enough for it to finally fail.

I think I'll just sleep better with a warranty on this car.


Spinner20

97 posts

101 months

Thursday 18th August
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Good call on the warranty. It's not just about the cost and coverage but if it helps you enjoy the car more then it's worth it. Depending on your next service you might want to look at the warranty with service plan they have. Mine is due a major next and actually it's worth having the combined plan rather than just the warranty.

21ATS

869 posts

53 months

Friday 19th August
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Spinner20 said:
Good call on the warranty. It's not just about the cost and coverage but if it helps you enjoy the car more then it's worth it. Depending on your next service you might want to look at the warranty with service plan they have. Mine is due a major next and actually it's worth having the combined plan rather than just the warranty.
Mine is just having a major service this week (approx £2.5k - part of the sale so I'm not paying for it) so the next one isn't due for a few years and we did run through the numbers.

The Power15 gives you warranty only £3,300 + vat

The Main Power15 gives you warranty and servicing.£4,200+vat

However if you don't claim on the Power15 you get a 30% discount next year when you renew it.

If you don't claim on the MainPower15 there's still no discount at renewal.

That's kind of a one way bet and it actually makes no sense to take the MainPower15. You may as well pay for servicing as you go it averages out at about £900+ vat each year.

irfan1712

1,184 posts

134 months

Wednesday 21st September
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really imformative thread - read it all from start to finish and there is some fantastic information here. Also very sad to see some pretty diabolical purchasing experiences from others elsewhere on the forum and Ferrari Chat with a few select dealers.

I've narrowed my search considerably to replace a W213 E63s - i did 20k a year for 4 years in that, it was that good. All i see is raving reviews about FF Ownership and another repetitive theme is how many people regret selling theirs. (Albeit i wont be doing 20k a year in one!)

Does anyone have any indicative finance deals on FF's they can share? I noticed a few pages back there was an interest only deal (30k in with circa £300 a month?) but im not sure how risky that is when it comes to moving the car on.

I'd like to run an FF for circa two years, possibly longer if i get on with it.


21ATS

869 posts

53 months

Wednesday 21st September
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irfan1712 said:
really imformative thread - read it all from start to finish and there is some fantastic information here. Also very sad to see some pretty diabolical purchasing experiences from others elsewhere on the forum and Ferrari Chat with a few select dealers.

I've narrowed my search considerably to replace a W213 E63s - i did 20k a year for 4 years in that, it was that good. All i see is raving reviews about FF Ownership and another repetitive theme is how many people regret selling theirs. (Albeit i wont be doing 20k a year in one!)

Does anyone have any indicative finance deals on FF's they can share? I noticed a few pages back there was an interest only deal (30k in with circa £300 a month?) but im not sure how risky that is when it comes to moving the car on.

I'd like to run an FF for circa two years, possibly longer if i get on with it.
An E63 (or RS6 for that matter) is going to be easier and cheaper to live with on a daily basis. But it's not a Ferrari.

An FF doesn't drive like a regular car, it took me about 1500 miles to actually understand how to drive it.....that sounds a bit odd but trust me when I say it's like nothing you will ever have driven before. That is good in many ways bad in others.

If I was in a situation where I needed to drive in traffic daily (in a major city) I'd be looking for a car with a traditional torque converter transmission.

Sitting in creeping traffic in an FF is not a fun place to be.

Fortunately I don't live in a city so I can use my FF as it was designed.

I came from an S6 Avant into the FF (via a false start with a Taycan) and there is nothing I would replace it with, probably not even the Lusso.

However if I lived in a city I'd be pottering around that in my electric Mazda.

As for finance, it's so dependent on your personal credit rating and relationship with vendors that it's really no representative looking at others packages. Pick a car and get some numbers.

My advice if you intend to move the car on in two years is buy one with a Pano roof and a good colour combination.

MDL111

6,463 posts

158 months

Wednesday 21st September
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I would think very carefully about running an FF for 2 years. You can get unlucky with repairs and depreciation at current inflated values and then selling after 2 years might hurt a lot financially.
In terms of the car, I just did 200km in mine and still love it, best daily driver around imo.

irfan1712

1,184 posts

134 months

Wednesday 21st September
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21ATS said:
irfan1712 said:
really imformative thread - read it all from start to finish and there is some fantastic information here. Also very sad to see some pretty diabolical purchasing experiences from others elsewhere on the forum and Ferrari Chat with a few select dealers.

I've narrowed my search considerably to replace a W213 E63s - i did 20k a year for 4 years in that, it was that good. All i see is raving reviews about FF Ownership and another repetitive theme is how many people regret selling theirs. (Albeit i wont be doing 20k a year in one!)

Does anyone have any indicative finance deals on FF's they can share? I noticed a few pages back there was an interest only deal (30k in with circa £300 a month?) but im not sure how risky that is when it comes to moving the car on.

I'd like to run an FF for circa two years, possibly longer if i get on with it.
An E63 (or RS6 for that matter) is going to be easier and cheaper to live with on a daily basis. But it's not a Ferrari.

An FF doesn't drive like a regular car, it took me about 1500 miles to actually understand how to drive it.....that sounds a bit odd but trust me when I say it's like nothing you will ever have driven before. That is good in many ways bad in others.

If I was in a situation where I needed to drive in traffic daily (in a major city) I'd be looking for a car with a traditional torque converter transmission.

Sitting in creeping traffic in an FF is not a fun place to be.

Fortunately I don't live in a city so I can use my FF as it was designed.

I came from an S6 Avant into the FF (via a false start with a Taycan) and there is nothing I would replace it with, probably not even the Lusso.

However if I lived in a city I'd be pottering around that in my electric Mazda.

As for finance, it's so dependent on your personal credit rating and relationship with vendors that it's really no representative looking at others packages. Pick a car and get some numbers.

My advice if you intend to move the car on in two years is buy one with a Pano roof and a good colour combination.
20k miles p/a in an E63s brings up some lovely maintenance and fuel bills - certainly not Ferrari territory but it closes the gap on my expectations slightly. In any case i probably should elaborate a bit more on my previous post, but the FF would be doing circa 8-10k year with me as a guess. I have other means to use as far as commuting goes, and i dont live anywhere near a city (thankfully). I do live very close to the Brecon Beacons and some of the best driving roads in the UK though where like my previous cars, i'd probably frequently stretch the legs of the FF on a weekend wtih a few Euro trips thrown in.

Im willing to wait for a 2015/2016 car albeit they are harder to come by, but i read the later cars come with the Pano roof anyway (its a must for me either way) . well aware of the PTU and DCT issues so im hoping to find a car with evidence both have been sorted. Not so hung up on miles - i'd rather buy on condition and history.

the one thing im reading conflicting costs on are replacement discs and pads - what are the estimate replacement costs and roughly what mileage are we expecting they last wtih mixed driving?

21ATS

869 posts

53 months

Wednesday 21st September
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irfan1712 said:
21ATS said:
irfan1712 said:
really imformative thread - read it all from start to finish and there is some fantastic information here. Also very sad to see some pretty diabolical purchasing experiences from others elsewhere on the forum and Ferrari Chat with a few select dealers.

I've narrowed my search considerably to replace a W213 E63s - i did 20k a year for 4 years in that, it was that good. All i see is raving reviews about FF Ownership and another repetitive theme is how many people regret selling theirs. (Albeit i wont be doing 20k a year in one!)

Does anyone have any indicative finance deals on FF's they can share? I noticed a few pages back there was an interest only deal (30k in with circa £300 a month?) but im not sure how risky that is when it comes to moving the car on.

I'd like to run an FF for circa two years, possibly longer if i get on with it.
An E63 (or RS6 for that matter) is going to be easier and cheaper to live with on a daily basis. But it's not a Ferrari.

An FF doesn't drive like a regular car, it took me about 1500 miles to actually understand how to drive it.....that sounds a bit odd but trust me when I say it's like nothing you will ever have driven before. That is good in many ways bad in others.

If I was in a situation where I needed to drive in traffic daily (in a major city) I'd be looking for a car with a traditional torque converter transmission.

Sitting in creeping traffic in an FF is not a fun place to be.

Fortunately I don't live in a city so I can use my FF as it was designed.

I came from an S6 Avant into the FF (via a false start with a Taycan) and there is nothing I would replace it with, probably not even the Lusso.

However if I lived in a city I'd be pottering around that in my electric Mazda.

As for finance, it's so dependent on your personal credit rating and relationship with vendors that it's really no representative looking at others packages. Pick a car and get some numbers.

My advice if you intend to move the car on in two years is buy one with a Pano roof and a good colour combination.
20k miles p/a in an E63s brings up some lovely maintenance and fuel bills - certainly not Ferrari territory but it closes the gap on my expectations slightly. In any case i probably should elaborate a bit more on my previous post, but the FF would be doing circa 8-10k year with me as a guess. I have other means to use as far as commuting goes, and i dont live anywhere near a city (thankfully). I do live very close to the Brecon Beacons and some of the best driving roads in the UK though where like my previous cars, i'd probably frequently stretch the legs of the FF on a weekend wtih a few Euro trips thrown in.

Im willing to wait for a 2015/2016 car albeit they are harder to come by, but i read the later cars come with the Pano roof anyway (its a must for me either way) . well aware of the PTU and DCT issues so im hoping to find a car with evidence both have been sorted. Not so hung up on miles - i'd rather buy on condition and history.

the one thing im reading conflicting costs on are replacement discs and pads - what are the estimate replacement costs and roughly what mileage are we expecting they last wtih mixed driving?
I've done around 2000 miles since I bought mine in early August.

I'm averaging around 250 miles a tank (circa 15mpg). Can go over 300 miles per tank on long runs.

Rather than anecdotal parts prices you can find them all here for yourself, real world.

https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/FF/FF_(RHD)/P...

Brakes circa £4,000 per corner. Discs + pads.

I'm at 23000 miles my brake wear indicator is currently 38% - meaning I still have circa 62% left.

If you track the car you can kill the brakes quickly.

Don't get hung up on PTU or DCT repairs. The PTU repair cost is now around £11K not the 25K+ it used to be. If that bothers you buy a warranty.

Like you I was after a 2015/16 car, but the pool of vehicles is very small in that 24 month period. They do have the Stereo upgrade and may or may not have carplay (but won't have android auto). I'd still upgrade the stereo to something more modern (completely and easily reversible).

Mine is a 2014 with a pano roof.