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Kettmark

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168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Those looking to sell should touch base with those contemplating buying to prevent the huge dealer spreads. I'm sure the cars would move on more rapidly then.

Kettmark

923 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Kettmark

923 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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jason61c said:
Nice but no pano roof & not much saving from retail?

jason61c

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189 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Kettmark said:
Nice but no pano roof & not much saving from retail?
I'm in the camp of not being bothered about pan roof, it'll cost me les on the way in, worth less on the way out!?

Closest retail I can find is £110k? Given its under full warranty for 6 months also.

ANOpax

1,010 posts

181 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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jason61c said:
Nice spec. Tons of interior carbon which really lifts the cabin. The semi-aniline leather is lovely (I have it too) and it ages with a beautiful patina which you can see is starting to come through in some of the photos.

If you care; front camera, hi power hifi and suspension lift are missing from an otherwise comprehensive spec.

jason61c

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Sunday 6th November 2022
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ANOpax said:
Nice spec. Tons of interior carbon which really lifts the cabin. The semi-aniline leather is lovely (I have it too) and it ages with a beautiful patina which you can see is starting to come through in some of the photos.

If you care; front camera, hi power hifi and suspension lift are missing from an otherwise comprehensive spec.
the interior colour combo is my favourite for these. I'd prefer the exterior to be in blue or a green with it, however this works really well. The seats do seem to get better with age.

Its got the furlonger upgraded PTU also.

Pricing these seems to be a nightmare.

21ATS

1,105 posts

87 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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ANOpax said:
jason61c said:
Nice spec. Tons of interior carbon which really lifts the cabin. The semi-aniline leather is lovely (I have it too) and it ages with a beautiful patina which you can see is starting to come through in some of the photos.

If you care; front camera, hi power hifi and suspension lift are missing from an otherwise comprehensive spec.
On the above list I don't have front camera but it would help, the bonnet of these cars is very long and you sit a lot further back in this car than anything else I've ever driven. High Power Hifi adds a sub a better amp and speakers. Nice to have but not a deal breaker.

I do have suspension lifter and I do use it. It lifts all four corners not just the front. It's not an absolute must have but it's a strong recommendation.

21ATS

1,105 posts

87 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Similar spec one on Collecting cars currently which will give you an idea of the market appetite for one of these as a "private sale" albeit seemingly listed by a trader.

Three rules about buying an FF.

1. Get it inspected.
2. See rule one
3. Did I mention getting it inspected?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

jason61c

5,978 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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21ATS said:
Similar spec one on Collecting cars currently which will give you an idea of the market appetite for one of these as a "private sale" albeit seemingly listed by a trader.

Three rules about buying an FF.

1. Get it inspected.
2. See rule one
3. Did I mention getting it inspected?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...
yeah, the auto trader one is under Ferrari 2 year approved used warranty also. so a good bit of piece of mind.

jason61c

5,978 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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21ATS said:
Similar spec one on Collecting cars currently which will give you an idea of the market appetite for one of these as a "private sale" albeit seemingly listed by a trader.

Three rules about buying an FF.

1. Get it inspected.
2. See rule one
3. Did I mention getting it inspected?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...
collecting cars

"The Grigio Silverstone paintwork is described by the seller as being in good condition, though they note that there is a minor scratch and some stone chips on the front bumper. There are also small areas of lacquer peel on the front bumper, a small area of damage on the front grille, a crack on the front number plate, a light scuff on the rear diffuser, very slight delamination around the windscreen, a scuff on the nearside front wheel arch, a touched-in blemish on the nearside front wing just behind the wheel arch, two scuffs on the lower passenger door, and heavy stone chipping on the nearside rear sill into the wheel arch"

that's a lot of work to sort all that out!?

then add:

"Stepping inside, the cabin is presented in good shape. There is slight wear and sticky residue on the centre console ‘R’ button, minor blemishes on the transmission tunnel storage compartment lid, deterioration on some of the climate control switches, with scratches and slightly sticky residue on the surrounding trim, and creasing on the seats, with very slight signs of wear on the driver’s upper seat bolster"

Looks like a trader is using Collecting cars to punt out a slightly rough car?

21ATS

1,105 posts

87 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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jason61c said:
If it feels like the right one for you and the money is where you want to be, go for it.

Double check which warranty it has. Once these are 8 years old the coverage available changes from bumper to bumper to Power15.

The warranties aren't all the same.

I bought one with a warranty though for piece of mind and then extended it for the first year. I'll decide when that's up if I want to renew it or self insure.

jason61c

5,978 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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21ATS said:
jason61c said:
If it feels like the right one for you and the money is where you want to be, go for it.

Double check which warranty it has. Once these are 8 years old the coverage available changes from bumper to bumper to Power15.

The warranties aren't all the same.

I bought one with a warranty though for piece of mind and then extended it for the first year. I'll decide when that's up if I want to renew it or self insure.
I think its a little bit toppy as a private sale. its got the warranty that you get when you get a 2 year approved used, I need to see what its actually got, thats a good point.


Kettmark

923 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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What do we think the collecting cars example will go for? £90k including fees?

21ATS

1,105 posts

87 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Kettmark said:
What do we think the collecting cars example will go for? £90k including fees?
I was suprised the red one with 4 missing years and import history made what it did so I'm not altogether sure.

£90K seems to be floor for these if they are half sensible. The red one did seem in better condition than this one though and also had less miles.

Considering what they cost new I still think they're a bargain.

The only real alternative for me was a new Alpina B5 Touring, which I do like but I just knew I'd be wondering why I didn't buy an FF...again.

So I took the plunge and I'm delighted I did. It took me a month to get comfortable driving it though, mentally as well as actually phyisically getting used to it. Initially I found it a bit intimidating and I'm used to 400-500hp cars. The FF is quick on an altogether different level, especially on motorways.

Kettmark

923 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Anyone own one of these & located near Northamptonshire? I'm keen to meet up with an owner and see if these are for me coming from a Granturismo.

ANOpax

1,010 posts

181 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Kettmark said:
Anyone own one of these & located near Northamptonshire? I'm keen to meet up with an owner and see if these are for me coming from a Granturismo.
The FF is one of the few cars which sounds better than a Granturismo. It can seat the same number of adults. You’re used to Italian ‘charm’ and build quality. Nobody ever accused the Granturismo of being fast. Nobody ever accused the FF of being slow. The FF has the practicality of a hatch, larger boot than the Granturismo and folding rear seats.

What’s not to like?

Kettmark

923 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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The fact it's 3 x the value! Is it 3 x as good is what is like to know.

21ATS

1,105 posts

87 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Kettmark said:
The fact it's 3 x the value! Is it 3 x as good is what is like to know.
You're driving a Ferrari, it's special, really it's special. It's down to you what value you attach to that.

An RS6, E63s or Aplina B5 estate is probably a better daily driver, in fact they are better daily drivers, but it's not a Ferrari. It doesn't have that V12 sound or the theatre when you start it.

Every time you drive the car it's an event and never gets old. You're sat behind the wheel of a car with a prancing horse on the steering wheel. It just doesn't get any better than that.

There are faster cars, there are more expensive cars, there are more comfortable and more practical cars. None of them are a Ferrari.You're buying into that. What's that worth to you?


Kettmark

923 posts

168 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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You should be a salesman 😊

21ATS

1,105 posts

87 months

Sunday 6th November 2022
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Kettmark said:
You should be a salesman ??
I spent 5 years talking myself out of buying one. All sorts of reasons why I needed to buy something more sensible, less likely to be ruinous. The reality is I was just living in a state of denial.

Eventually I just gave in and bought one.

No regrets so far!

The only downside, for me at least. Is there's simply nowhere to go from here. This is as good as it gets for me. I'm not as fond of the Lusso and Ferrari are unlikely ever to make anything like the FF again now the FUV has been unveiled.

So like many owners, I have a feeling this is going to stay for a very long time.