FF prices

[tomtom]

kith said:

Backs up your point that owners of these cars just don't need to sell.

I don't know, it's now listed on the 'deal now' section for £85k so there's obviously a fairly concerted effort to sell it

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

[jason61c]

21ATS said:

No sale for this car, High bid was £77,000 + fees (a little over £82k).

thats a strong price for the car as it is.

[Kettmark]

Just goes to show you can't beat the system. Lots of private sellers attempting to get well above 'book price' for their cars by selling through such an auction or even trying their arms on platforms such as PH.
You have to accept that you are going to get your trousers pulled down come sale time on this type of car.
I've seen an ex CC example advertised privately recently for retail money. Come on......

[budgie smuggler]

tomtom said:

I don't know, it's now listed on the 'deal now' section for £85k so there's obviously a fairly concerted effort to sell it

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

"patch of bubbling above the nearside rear quarter light window. "

That's a strange thing not to repair properly on a car of that price, assuming it's this https://collectingcars.imgix.net/018003/Ferrari-FF...

Paint on the whole car looks poor as well, loads of orange peel

e.g. https://collectingcars.imgix.net/018003/Ferrari-FF...

edit - oh, the bubbling is actually this...
https://collectingcars.imgix.net/018003/Ferrari-FF...
Wonder what's happened there? Bird poo maybe

Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 17th February 15:20

[21ATS]

Nice one just popped up today. If you can live with the interior combo.

This one probably won't hang around. Blue ones always seem to go quickly.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14597861

[21ATS]

budgie smuggler said:

tomtom said:

I don't know, it's now listed on the 'deal now' section for £85k so there's obviously a fairly concerted effort to sell it

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

"patch of bubbling above the nearside rear quarter light window. "

That's a strange thing not to repair properly on a car of that price, assuming it's this https://collectingcars.imgix.net/018003/Ferrari-FF...

Paint on the whole car looks poor as well, loads of orange peel

e.g. https://collectingcars.imgix.net/018003/Ferrari-FF...

edit - oh, the bubbling is actually this...
https://collectingcars.imgix.net/018003/Ferrari-FF...
Wonder what's happened there? Bird poo maybe

Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 17th February 15:20

Hardly a shed.

I see an 11 year old car that's been driven. That's probably still worth the thick end of £90K.

You want something mint with a warranty? You're going to be paying £115K plus at today's prices. That £25K spread buys a lot paint correction and a full warranty.

[21ATS]

tomtom said:

kith said:

Backs up your point that owners of these cars just don't need to sell.

I don't know, it's now listed on the 'deal now' section for £85k so there's obviously a fairly concerted effort to sell it

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

What would that be asking on a dealers forecourt with the paint corrected and a warranty?

£85K seems pretty reasonable for what was likely to have been a £260K car new.

£5K or even £10K here or there on one of these is nothing. If you want one, you have to pay to play.

Remember there are only a little over 200 of these in the UK and 2000 worldwide (compared to something like the 458 which there are circa 20,000 units worldwide)

These are a low volume model, the pool of cars really isn't that big to start with. Less than 10 cars for sale in the UK and most of them have been for sale for a while. The decent ones often change hands before the pictures hit the classifieds. That's how I bought mine.

If you really want one, put the feelers out and get one via a specialist or main dealer who knows a customer that wants to move one on. Don't expect to nickle and dime on it though. That asking price will be the asking price.

[pontypool]

21ATS said:

Nice one just popped up today. If you can live with the interior combo.

This one probably won't hang around. Blue ones always seem to go quickly.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14597861

These types of interiors always say "Middle East Import" to me. No idea if that's the case here, but it's pretty hideous to these eyes.

[budgie smuggler]

21ATS said:

Hardly a shed.

I see an 11 year old car that's been driven. That's probably still worth the thick end of £90K.

You want something mint with a warranty? You're going to be paying £115K plus at today's prices. That £25K spread buys a lot paint correction and a full warranty.

Take your point but there's more than 'correction' required to fix that. Wet sand and/or respray I'd think.

If that's factory paint then I really can't believe how bad the orange peel is.

[ettore]

pontypool said:

These types of interiors always say "Middle East Import" to me. No idea if that's the case here, but it's pretty hideous to these eyes.

I rather like it!

Ferrari do good leather, may as well celebrate it rather than drab black or dull cream.

Would prefer tan all over tbh but I could live with that.

[ANOpax]

budgie smuggler said:

Take your point but there's more than 'correction' required to fix that. Wet sand and/or respray I'd think.

If that's factory paint then I really can't believe how bad the orange peel is.

Ferrari is renowned for poor paint finishes. Orange peel is endemic. And for those worrying about the paint bubbling, you’ve obviously never owned an Aston.

Like Astons, the bodies and panels of the FF are all aluminium. No rust, just poor paint prep leading to oxidation spots. The bubbling on the CC car won’t take much more than a few hundred to sort out as it’ll be easy to remove and blend in as it’s on a small panel.

At the end of the day, a decent detail is all that’s required.

[jason61c]

budgie smuggler said:

21ATS said:

Hardly a shed.

I see an 11 year old car that's been driven. That's probably still worth the thick end of £90K.

You want something mint with a warranty? You're going to be paying £115K plus at today's prices. That £25K spread buys a lot paint correction and a full warranty.

Take your point but there's more than 'correction' required to fix that. Wet sand and/or respray I'd think.

If that's factory paint then I really can't believe how bad the orange peel is.

thats covered in poor 'smart' repairs. its a lot of cash to get it looking correct, likely the same as a new set of brakes. all the other bits on and you can see why bidding went where it did. the colour really doesn't help.

as per the grey one on the previous page, private sale and its sub £90k with a warrranty.

[jason61c]

21ATS said:

Nice one just popped up today. If you can live with the interior combo.

This one probably won't hang around. Blue ones always seem to go quickly.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14597861

I like the interior, its a bit more of an 'event'.

[haroonok]

Is it not this car?
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2015-ferrari-f...

[21ATS]

haroonok said:

Is it not this car?
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2015-ferrari-f...

I thought I recognised the interior.

He did well buying that in month one of lockdown when the market dropped massively.

He'll get his money back and the best part of three years FF ownership and nil depretiation.

Only managed 2000 miles a year though....why buy one of these lovely things and just leave it parked up?

[belfry]

I’m on the hunt for a FF with the tan interior. Ideally blue or Grigio. Anyone seen anything nice pop up recently?

[belfry]

Any thoughts on this car please?
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14666444

[21ATS]

belfry said:

Any thoughts on this car please?
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14666444

It's an earlyish car.

It's all the money for a 2012 car with no pano roof and asking price is pretty much what a Ferrari dealer would ask. The difference being you'd get Ferrari warranty at a Ferrari dealer as part of the sale.

Ultimately do you like it? That's what it comes down to.

As discussed throughout this thread, you're waiting for one of a little over 200 cars in the UK to be available for you to buy. So the pool is very small.

I spent a number of years waitng for my perfect car to appear, exactly what I wanted didn't materialise but something close did, so I bought it, but I paid asking price.

So look at the spec and ask yourself is that your car? Is that close enough to what you're looking for? If it is, get it inspected.

[21ATS]

belfry said:

Any thoughts on this car please?
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14666444

lets do a straight comparison with two other currently on sale.

3 years younger, 5 owners fewer, 3000 miles less, £1,100 cheaper - SOR dealer

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13768951



1 year younger, 2 fewer owners, 2000 miles more, Pano roof, £4,000 more - Ferrari Main dealer (2 years approved used warranty).

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14016897

[belfry]

This comparison is super helpful. Thank you for making the effort.

I have a craving for the tan leather, which is stronger than my craving for a pano roof, although the Ferrari warranty is nice.

High class problems indeed.