£199k Daytona Spyder
Discussion
This is back up for sale at £170k…
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11158539
Still about £80k too much I think.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11158539
Still about £80k too much I think.
Agreed.
Chopping the roof off genuine Daytonas (as some have done) is one thing but at least in those cases you have all the mechanicals and chassis and almost all the bodywork of a genuine Daytona.
However much the sales puff tries to obfuscate things, this is just a replica body on a different model of Ferrari. amongst other things, the 365GT4 2+2 has a different engine from the Daytona (yes it is a 4.4L V12 Colombo but it's a different tipo from the one in the Daytona); it has a longer chassis (so must have had chassis surgery); and has its gearbox at the front as opposed to the Daytona's transaxle. So it will presumably drive nothing like a Daytona.
Admittedly it's one step up from a replica Daytona body on Jaguar running gear, but I think for the money I'd rather just buy an unmolested 365GT4 2+2 and an immaculate 355 Spider and still have plenty of change left over.
Chopping the roof off genuine Daytonas (as some have done) is one thing but at least in those cases you have all the mechanicals and chassis and almost all the bodywork of a genuine Daytona.
However much the sales puff tries to obfuscate things, this is just a replica body on a different model of Ferrari. amongst other things, the 365GT4 2+2 has a different engine from the Daytona (yes it is a 4.4L V12 Colombo but it's a different tipo from the one in the Daytona); it has a longer chassis (so must have had chassis surgery); and has its gearbox at the front as opposed to the Daytona's transaxle. So it will presumably drive nothing like a Daytona.
Admittedly it's one step up from a replica Daytona body on Jaguar running gear, but I think for the money I'd rather just buy an unmolested 365GT4 2+2 and an immaculate 355 Spider and still have plenty of change left over.
I agree with that. I’m not really for the butchering of a car to turn it into something else. I guess it’s understandable if the donor car was beyond help.I very nearly bought a Dino GT4 chassis, 2ltr Dino engine and a 206SP body kit to make a 206SP for relative buttons ten years ago. Would have been a Dino on the V5 too. Sort of regret that now...
Back on topic, yes, the 355 and 365 would be a good alternative.
Back on topic, yes, the 355 and 365 would be a good alternative.
bish_345 said:
Agreed.
Chopping the roof off genuine Daytonas (as some have done) is one thing but at least in those cases you have all the mechanicals and chassis and almost all the bodywork of a genuine Daytona.
However much the sales puff tries to obfuscate things, this is just a replica body on a different model of Ferrari. amongst other things, the 365GT4 2+2 has a different engine from the Daytona (yes it is a 4.4L V12 Colombo but it's a different tipo from the one in the Daytona); it has a longer chassis (so must have had chassis surgery); and has its gearbox at the front as opposed to the Daytona's transaxle. So it will presumably drive nothing like a Daytona.
Admittedly it's one step up from a replica Daytona body on Jaguar running gear, but I think for the money I'd rather just buy an unmolested 365GT4 2+2 and an immaculate 355 Spider and still have plenty of change left over.
Not my cuppa tea either.Chopping the roof off genuine Daytonas (as some have done) is one thing but at least in those cases you have all the mechanicals and chassis and almost all the bodywork of a genuine Daytona.
However much the sales puff tries to obfuscate things, this is just a replica body on a different model of Ferrari. amongst other things, the 365GT4 2+2 has a different engine from the Daytona (yes it is a 4.4L V12 Colombo but it's a different tipo from the one in the Daytona); it has a longer chassis (so must have had chassis surgery); and has its gearbox at the front as opposed to the Daytona's transaxle. So it will presumably drive nothing like a Daytona.
Admittedly it's one step up from a replica Daytona body on Jaguar running gear, but I think for the money I'd rather just buy an unmolested 365GT4 2+2 and an immaculate 355 Spider and still have plenty of change left over.
On a positive the rear will be nice and light !
Much has been said about this Daytona Spyder the origins of which appear to be more speculation than fact. In particular there is the suggestion that the replica body is from EG Autokraft. It is most definitely not: and unlike the EGA version the reason it looks out of balance/proportion at the rear end is that it is almost certainly based on a squiffily executed Southern Roadcraft fibregalss replica body kit.
Although the mechanical innards may be from a scrapped Ferrari (e.g. a 70s/80s 365/400 2+2) its provenance is dodgy and its status being presently advertised as a genuine Ferrari is misleading at best.
In the meantime I adore my EGA. It sports not a single badge proclaiming it to be a Ferrari. It is a thoroughly well engineered lookalike - an evocation if you like - but as opposed to the real thingit is easy and relatively cheap to maintain; and the Jaguar V12 engine and manual 5 speed gearbox makes it go like stonk with go-cart handling to match.
Although the mechanical innards may be from a scrapped Ferrari (e.g. a 70s/80s 365/400 2+2) its provenance is dodgy and its status being presently advertised as a genuine Ferrari is misleading at best.
In the meantime I adore my EGA. It sports not a single badge proclaiming it to be a Ferrari. It is a thoroughly well engineered lookalike - an evocation if you like - but as opposed to the real thingit is easy and relatively cheap to maintain; and the Jaguar V12 engine and manual 5 speed gearbox makes it go like stonk with go-cart handling to match.
This Daytona is actually a kit car; having been constructed (originally by whom?) most likely using the mechanicals from a Ferrari 365GT 2+2 as its donor (as opposed to the more popular early 70s Jaguar XJ V12 innards) clothed by a body (a rather inferior and disproportionate one at that) from Southern Roadcraft. This I’m sure will include a Southern Roadcraft tubular chassis welded to the front engine sub-frame from the donor Ferrari.
Any suggestion by the vendor that this is a genuine Ferrari is egregious hype; worse when reinforced by the deliberately misleading claim that it features matching engine, gearbox and chassis numbers. Of course this may be true, having been sourced from the donor - and hence the purported V5C logbook registration as a Ferrari GT4.
But a Ferrari manufactured conversion it is not; and any suggestion that it is a genuine Ferrari is codswallop.
I’m afraid that the inescapable bottom line is that what we are dealing with here is actually a kit car replication in exactly the same sense that my EGA Daytona lookalike with its Jaguar underpinnings – and V5C registered as a Jaguar XJ12 - is at heart a kit car.
Up here in Scotland we have a word that best describes the sales pitch that the vendor is employing – ‘Kidology’!!
As ever Caveat Emptor
Any suggestion by the vendor that this is a genuine Ferrari is egregious hype; worse when reinforced by the deliberately misleading claim that it features matching engine, gearbox and chassis numbers. Of course this may be true, having been sourced from the donor - and hence the purported V5C logbook registration as a Ferrari GT4.
But a Ferrari manufactured conversion it is not; and any suggestion that it is a genuine Ferrari is codswallop.
I’m afraid that the inescapable bottom line is that what we are dealing with here is actually a kit car replication in exactly the same sense that my EGA Daytona lookalike with its Jaguar underpinnings – and V5C registered as a Jaguar XJ12 - is at heart a kit car.
Up here in Scotland we have a word that best describes the sales pitch that the vendor is employing – ‘Kidology’!!
As ever Caveat Emptor
Does anyone know if this car sold for the sum it was advertised at? I own the only other SRV12 ‘Daytona’ to be based on Ferrari V12 mechanicals. Having been off the road for some years and having just completed a full recommission, I am now looking for a realistic insurance valuation.
Edited by dom1102 on Saturday 18th December 05:07
Edited by dom1102 on Saturday 18th December 05:09
Edited by dom1102 on Saturday 18th December 05:12
67Dino said:
Little bit more info here on how it was made, from FerrariChat discussion around time of its 2014 auction:
“The Ferrari 365 Daytona Spider by E G Autokraft is without question the most accurate replica of the marque. Dimensions are exact ….
…. Looking at the car it is an exact copy…”
Really? It’s not even in proportion. Look at the photos on the previous page. Take the gap between the trailing edge of the door and the leading edge of the rear wheel arch. It’s significantly shorter on the replica. Windscreen looks odd too.“The Ferrari 365 Daytona Spider by E G Autokraft is without question the most accurate replica of the marque. Dimensions are exact ….
…. Looking at the car it is an exact copy…”
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