Every day tips for living with a 599
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After GreyPaul I drove over to Nouvalari for some secondary cat delete pipes
https://www.nouvalari.com/index.php
They didn't have in their catalogue but after sending photos they said it would be an easy job for them.
So up on their ramp.
Just one plate to remove to allow access. All bolts broke out easily with a little WD40. Evidence of how well the previous owners had kept the car
OEM pipes went on the jig and to my surprise Richard, Sam and Steve fabricated new pipes right then and there!! I thought they were just going to take measurements. Made me smile
New pipes fitted
A quick test drive
O!M!G! I felt like the naughtiest school boy! The bark at WOT!
The icing on the cake - at idle, light throttle and motorway cruise, no more noise than normal. Still a nice quiet car.
Floor it.
https://www.nouvalari.com/index.php
They didn't have in their catalogue but after sending photos they said it would be an easy job for them.
So up on their ramp.
Just one plate to remove to allow access. All bolts broke out easily with a little WD40. Evidence of how well the previous owners had kept the car
OEM pipes went on the jig and to my surprise Richard, Sam and Steve fabricated new pipes right then and there!! I thought they were just going to take measurements. Made me smile
New pipes fitted
A quick test drive
O!M!G! I felt like the naughtiest school boy! The bark at WOT!
The icing on the cake - at idle, light throttle and motorway cruise, no more noise than normal. Still a nice quiet car.
Floor it.
ANOpax said:
Thank you for the club scuderia CCM info links.
Your new exhaust setup must sound awesome. How are you avoiding the dreaded CEL given that your O2 sensors must be effectively registering a cat 'failure' ?
Hi ANOpax,Your new exhaust setup must sound awesome. How are you avoiding the dreaded CEL given that your O2 sensors must be effectively registering a cat 'failure' ?
It has really made a difference to the sound and obviously this means it is much faster!
It has much more of an 90s F1 sound when the throttle is only half pressed and full open near the limiter it is just crazy! I also have a set from Fiammenghi coming as he has quite a different set up.
https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/prodotto/cat-b...
According to this thread on ferrarichat one person dyno'd before and after with a +/- 30 bhp gain
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/experien...
But to get the real F1 scream headers need to be changed to 6-1 as the GTO has. As Idealstandard has stated Fiammenghi headers do this and are highly rated on Ferrarichat. This will be a later project for the car.
https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/product-catego...
On the 599 there are no O2 / Lambda sensors after the secondary cats, so a straight swap, no error message. Once recommendation from Ferrarichat is to do a reset of the adaptive fuel valves. I have not done this.
So the oil pressure light on the dash winked that horrible heart sinking wink at me.
Just for a few seconds Then went off. Did it three times, all when the car was at a steady motorway cruise after a couple hours driving. 3 hours more driving and nothing.
Please excuse the picture while driving but I had to capture the evidence quickly.
Checked the manual and this can be an indication of sensor failure as I'm confident that the oil level is correct and in good condition.
A call to Dean at GreyPaul and unfortunately this is a big job to fix as the inlet manifold needs to be removed to access the sensor. I'll monitor for the moment and see if it becomes more regular. I don't really like leaving things unaddressed.
Just for a few seconds Then went off. Did it three times, all when the car was at a steady motorway cruise after a couple hours driving. 3 hours more driving and nothing.
Please excuse the picture while driving but I had to capture the evidence quickly.
Checked the manual and this can be an indication of sensor failure as I'm confident that the oil level is correct and in good condition.
A call to Dean at GreyPaul and unfortunately this is a big job to fix as the inlet manifold needs to be removed to access the sensor. I'll monitor for the moment and see if it becomes more regular. I don't really like leaving things unaddressed.
Jesus Christ mate you’ve been through the ringer. I thought I’d completed warning light bingo on my 612 but you’ve 100% trumped me.
Save aways going to the dealer for a diagnosis have you looked at getting an autel I think is ap200. it’s been pretty handy when a dealer isnt around to quickly diagnose any issues. It also gives you clutch wear.
I occasionally had a engine control system failure flash. Normally after 200 miles on a 6th gear pull at low revs on the motorway. Quick check and had a misfire on cylinder 4. I’m due to change the plugs just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Fingers crossed is not the sensor for you mate !
Save aways going to the dealer for a diagnosis have you looked at getting an autel I think is ap200. it’s been pretty handy when a dealer isnt around to quickly diagnose any issues. It also gives you clutch wear.
I occasionally had a engine control system failure flash. Normally after 200 miles on a 6th gear pull at low revs on the motorway. Quick check and had a misfire on cylinder 4. I’m due to change the plugs just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Fingers crossed is not the sensor for you mate !
cake eater said:
But to get the real F1 scream headers need to be changed to 6-1 as the GTO has. As Idealstandard has stated Fiammenghi headers do this and are highly rated on Ferrarichat. This will be a later project for the car.
https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/product-catego...
These are the ones i have:https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/product-catego...
https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/prodotto/6-1-h...
And a video of cold startup with them on (volume warning)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ei3LiyYwDE
They are also a work of art:
aundre-3000 said:
Jesus Christ mate you’ve been through the ringer. I thought I’d completed warning light bingo on my 612 but you’ve 100% trumped me.
Save aways going to the dealer for a diagnosis have you looked at getting an autel I think is ap200. it’s been pretty handy when a dealer isnt around to quickly diagnose any issues. It also gives you clutch wear.
I occasionally had a engine control system failure flash. Normally after 200 miles on a 6th gear pull at low revs on the motorway. Quick check and had a misfire on cylinder 4. I’m due to change the plugs just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Fingers crossed is not the sensor for you mate !
Hi aundre-3000, I have certainly seen the dealer a lot. But I do consider that considering the milage I've done it's not been so bad and just working through the problems from the age and type of usage. Save aways going to the dealer for a diagnosis have you looked at getting an autel I think is ap200. it’s been pretty handy when a dealer isnt around to quickly diagnose any issues. It also gives you clutch wear.
I occasionally had a engine control system failure flash. Normally after 200 miles on a 6th gear pull at low revs on the motorway. Quick check and had a misfire on cylinder 4. I’m due to change the plugs just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Fingers crossed is not the sensor for you mate !
I will have to look at getting the diagnostic tool you mentioned, I believe IdealStandard has also recommended
There's a real family resemblance between the 612 and the 599, especially around the nose. Another very underrated car.
idealstandard said:
These are the ones i have:
https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/prodotto/6-1-h...
And a video of cold startup with them on (volume warning)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ei3LiyYwDE
They are also a work of art:
Just gorgeous https://www.fiammenghiitalia.com/en/prodotto/6-1-h...
And a video of cold startup with them on (volume warning)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ei3LiyYwDE
They are also a work of art:
My Mum asked me to come and visit so I decided to take the 599 as she has only seen the car on the security camera after I got rumbled by my own alarm system 
This meant another call to REIS Motorsport for a milage increase as I'd done 9300 miles. The underwriter agreed to 15,000 miles but also said that they would not agree to another increase and this will automatically be reduced to 10k on renewal.
On the drive to Scotland took mostly motorway and at the last minute stopped off to see a friend in Edinburgh and had to go cross country. A702 is quite a fun road but traffic prevented anything but a slow frustrating drive.
Had lunch at Prestonfield House https://www.prestonfield.com/
View from the garden with Arthur's Seat in the background
On the way into the hotel grounds I noticed a sign for Rosslyn Chapel https://www.rosslynchapel.com/ so stayed a little longer.
Then the 3 hour drive to Mum's. On pulling up to her door she greeted me with the kind loving words all Mum's do "It sounds like a lawn mower and you look like a w
ker in your posh car"
At least no warning lights
This meant another call to REIS Motorsport for a milage increase as I'd done 9300 miles. The underwriter agreed to 15,000 miles but also said that they would not agree to another increase and this will automatically be reduced to 10k on renewal.
On the drive to Scotland took mostly motorway and at the last minute stopped off to see a friend in Edinburgh and had to go cross country. A702 is quite a fun road but traffic prevented anything but a slow frustrating drive.
Had lunch at Prestonfield House https://www.prestonfield.com/
View from the garden with Arthur's Seat in the background
On the way into the hotel grounds I noticed a sign for Rosslyn Chapel https://www.rosslynchapel.com/ so stayed a little longer.
Then the 3 hour drive to Mum's. On pulling up to her door she greeted me with the kind loving words all Mum's do "It sounds like a lawn mower and you look like a w
ker in your posh car"At least no warning lights
willy wombat said:
I drive the 702 quite often on my trips from Sussex to Edinburgh to see family. Very tempting road when traffic is light but beware of the boys in blue. They also know it’s a very tempting drive and are often out with their cameras.
Yes, have to agree, they're getting very strict and lots of the villages now have 20mph limit.I actually think the section going south west is more fun, much quieter and less built-up.
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This meant another call to REIS Motorsport for a milage increase as I'd done 9300 miles. The underwriter agreed to 15,000 miles but also said that they would not agree to another increase and this will automatically be reduced to 10k on renewal.
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Since you've used it so much so far, isn't this going to cramp your style a bit for the rest of the year ?
This meant another call to REIS Motorsport for a milage increase as I'd done 9300 miles. The underwriter agreed to 15,000 miles but also said that they would not agree to another increase and this will automatically be reduced to 10k on renewal.
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Since you've used it so much so far, isn't this going to cramp your style a bit for the rest of the year ?
outnumbered said:
Since you've used it so much so far, isn't this going to cramp your style a bit for the rest of the year ?
Hi outnumbered,If I was going to be home all year, for sure. But the latest I'll be in the UK is till August and most likely I'll be leaving for work much sooner and I'll probably be out there till the end of the year.
A little childish prank on my Mum today as she said the neighbours Tesla model 3 is faster than my car to 60. I agreed, 4WD traction and all that but I said I bet I'd beat him to 100.
So on the way to taking my Mum to the gym I took a back road I know from school days, nice long quiet straight with no junctions. Stopped the car and said "shall we see how fast?"
Mum "no. No! Nooooooo!!!! Please stop."
The screams were a joy to hear! I'm obviously a very bad son.
Mum's always have the last word.
"The Tesla would have done that without making any noise"
So on the way to taking my Mum to the gym I took a back road I know from school days, nice long quiet straight with no junctions. Stopped the car and said "shall we see how fast?"
Mum "no. No! Nooooooo!!!! Please stop."
The screams were a joy to hear! I'm obviously a very bad son.
Mum's always have the last word.
"The Tesla would have done that without making any noise"
So the last few days have been frustrating, the first time a fault has actually pissed me off.
Been visiting family, giving people drives, all great. Decided to wash the car, just bucket and hose (no kit at Mum's house). Afterwards goes to put it in the garage and the driver's side window drops and won't go up when the door closes. Press the window switch up and down - nothing, not even a click.
Try lock unlock. Car alarms but door doesn't lock and have to explain to Vodafone automotive that's there's a problem with the car.
Do a little Google research and it's not uncommon but none of the internet fixes work and disconnecting the battery just means errors and inputting the radio code. I can't find the limit switch.
Leave it overnight, maybe she'll be in a better mood in the morning.
Nope
Weather is not looking like it's going to be good for the drive home so do a little redneck engineering.
Window gap
Now filled with shower seal
It works, it's a little noisy but it keeps the water out.
The day I'm supposed to drive back the autel AP200 arrives so I test it to see if there's a fault.
Plug it into the connector hidden behind this panel
Do a full scan and there's 13 errors!
Most of the errors I put down to disconnecting the batter but #7 is interesting.
I click into the window switch and there's button that says restore default values.
I press it but nothing seems to happen.
Disconnect the AP200. Test the door but nothing happens once it's closed. Try the window switch and the window goes up and down.
Go through the re-learn process mentioned on Ferrarichat just in case.
Test the door open close and the window drops and goes back up as normal.
Who knows what was going on? Not sure I actually did anything.
Been visiting family, giving people drives, all great. Decided to wash the car, just bucket and hose (no kit at Mum's house). Afterwards goes to put it in the garage and the driver's side window drops and won't go up when the door closes. Press the window switch up and down - nothing, not even a click.
Try lock unlock. Car alarms but door doesn't lock and have to explain to Vodafone automotive that's there's a problem with the car.
Do a little Google research and it's not uncommon but none of the internet fixes work and disconnecting the battery just means errors and inputting the radio code. I can't find the limit switch.
Leave it overnight, maybe she'll be in a better mood in the morning.
Nope
Weather is not looking like it's going to be good for the drive home so do a little redneck engineering.
Window gap
Now filled with shower seal
It works, it's a little noisy but it keeps the water out.
The day I'm supposed to drive back the autel AP200 arrives so I test it to see if there's a fault.
Plug it into the connector hidden behind this panel
Do a full scan and there's 13 errors!
Most of the errors I put down to disconnecting the batter but #7 is interesting.
- 7 NQS Instrument Cluster - oil pressure pressure sensor missed. Is this also battery related, the sensor or the dash?
I click into the window switch and there's button that says restore default values.
I press it but nothing seems to happen.
Disconnect the AP200. Test the door but nothing happens once it's closed. Try the window switch and the window goes up and down.
Go through the re-learn process mentioned on Ferrarichat just in case.
Test the door open close and the window drops and goes back up as normal.
Who knows what was going on? Not sure I actually did anything.
DeejRC said:
Good effort on the miles Cake.
With your travails and the amount of miles I did in 9months, Im glad I went the F12 now and not the 599. I lack anything like the patience you display with the car!
Great thread on basically writing the self help book for the 599 though!
Hi DeejRC,With your travails and the amount of miles I did in 9months, Im glad I went the F12 now and not the 599. I lack anything like the patience you display with the car!
Great thread on basically writing the self help book for the 599 though!
I agree with you about the F12. Maybe I was just expecting some problems with the 599 and this has given me a little extra patience.
Plus when she's good, she really is very very good!
Not in F12 league I'm happy to admit but will give me some room to change a few things and hopefully not affect value too much.
Though, at the moment I have no intention of selling.
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