Challenge Stradale thread

Challenge Stradale thread

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355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Thanks Voicey

Very invaluable advice. Actually we never discussed the ball joints and now that you mention it, I am sure they must have soem play as they are the orginals and on full lock I can hear them. I will ask them if they checked as they were not there in their list of advisories.

As for the geometry, I initially did want to tell them to make ti a bit more aggressive for track but given it was quite a bit out I thought this time round to start at the neutral and change it once I got a good feel of how it is supposed to be. Having said that I was still super happy with how it performed on the existing set up ... just goes to show you how much I understand !

Can't wait now for the next track day smile


911Thrasher

2,465 posts

137 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Voicey did set up my Stradale perfectly 2years ago wink a blast at Spa

roygarth

2,654 posts

186 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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This looks very cheap? For a reason?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

johnnyreggae

2,273 posts

98 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Ads here suggest its typical for a current LHD ask - RHD seem to ask fifty more but whether they are selling.....

911Thrasher

2,465 posts

137 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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roygarth said:
This looks very cheap? For a reason?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
If it’s the French car I think it is...make sure once you have the chassis number you contact Mike at the Stradale register, he will give you the full story and pictures.

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355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

911Thrasher

2,465 posts

137 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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355fiorano said:
I didn’t want to be that blunt...but yes it’s quite famous in France, as one dude got “f@cked” over it big time!

As always do your research and always contact Mike at the register as he has tons of history, thanks to many owners and ex-owners.

AdvocatusD

2,268 posts

169 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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911Thrasher said:
I didn’t want to be that blunt...but yes it’s quite famous in France, as one dude got “f@cked” over it big time!

As always do your research and always contact Mike at the register as he has tons of history, thanks to many owners and ex-owners.
Yes, steer clear of this car.

In response to a query I sent asking if the car was damage free, I was told it was absolutely accident free - which would appear to be dishonest. Caveat emptor I guess.


355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Sunday 6th January
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Got my car back from service after a couple of months with some new things including Michelin Cup 2 boots
Took her for a drive today, albeit a slow one in London but I'm a bit disappointed
The fronts are 235 vs 225 and the steering feels like it's lost its ballet shoes and put on some wellies! Steering tramlines on uneven roads and on smoother Tarmac it does not centre. It just stays where you point it (at 30-40 mph).
When I had the chance to push it on some familiar twisters there is definitely more grip than the P Zeros
I'll see how I get on and especially when I do a track day but although I can see I'll probably be faster I'd rather have the steering finesse back...

voicey

2,289 posts

125 months

Sunday 6th January
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355fiorano said:
Got my car back from service after a couple of months with some new things including Michelin Cup 2 boots
Took her for a drive today, albeit a slow one in London but I'm a bit disappointed
The fronts are 235 vs 225 and the steering feels like it's lost its ballet shoes and put on some wellies! Steering tramlines on uneven roads and on smoother Tarmac it does not centre. It just stays where you point it (at 30-40 mph).
When I had the chance to push it on some familiar twisters there is definitely more grip than the P Zeros
I'll see how I get on and especially when I do a track day but although I can see I'll probably be faster I'd rather have the steering finesse back...
Take some toe out of the front - a smattering of toe-in is all you need and you have bucket loads right now. Dial a little more toe in at the rear to retain the high speed stability.

355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Monday 7th January
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Thanks Voicey .. easier said than done though when you don't have a workshop!
I think I have to live with it for a little while at least frown

911Thrasher

2,465 posts

137 months

Tuesday 8th January
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355fiorano said:
Thanks Voicey .. easier said than done though when you don't have a workshop!
I think I have to live with it for a little while at least frown
take it to Voicey wink he did mine last time when we fitted Cups and it was awesome

355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Wednesday 9th January
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I need to recover form the current bill and the impending ones for the other two....
Voicey is truly fantastic and I'd love him to sort this out for me when the time comes .. although location wise it is quite difficult for me.

355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Wednesday 9th January
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voicey said:
Take some toe out of the front - a smattering of toe-in is all you need and you have bucket loads right now. Dial a little more toe in at the rear to retain the high speed stability.
Maybe I should try driving it in reverse and check out the handling wink

355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Sunday 10th February
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I finally got to take the car out again today for an hour or so. I thought to check the tyre pressures and found them to be at 30psi all round and decided to increase to 32psi all round. The car felt a LOT better so I am happier. Interestingly, it was cold and a bit damp and on long bends at speed the car was a bit skitty. Probably as the tyres are still brand new. When the road was completely dry there was a lot of grip. I suspect given the outer third of the Michelin is nearly slick it may not be the greatest in these conditions... Can't wait to do a proper track day and see how these compare to the the Pirellis.

AmoCS

847 posts

157 months

Sunday 10th February
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355fiorano said:
I finally got to take the car out again today for an hour or so. I thought to check the tyre pressures and found them to be at 30psi all round and decided to increase to 32psi all round. The car felt a LOT better so I am happier. Interestingly, it was cold and a bit damp and on long bends at speed the car was a bit skitty. Probably as the tyres are still brand new. When the road was completely dry there was a lot of grip. I suspect given the outer third of the Michelin is nearly slick it may not be the greatest in these conditions... Can't wait to do a proper track day and see how these compare to the the Pirellis.
Recommended PSI setup is 32(F) & 29(R)

355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Sunday 10th February
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Thanks Amo
Is that specific to the Michelins or is it the same for the P Zeros too?

AmoCS

847 posts

157 months

Sunday 10th February
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It’s what’s in the handbook so trust relates to oem Pirelli Cora’s
I run the same pressures on Cup 2s.

355fiorano

323 posts

180 months

Don't think its his cup of tea .. a bit too raw for what he is used to.

What I find interesting however on that particular car is that it seems to have a good history and HR Owen was trying to sell it at 205k in 2017, had it for 1.5yrs and reduced to 140k and then it went to Autostore for 125k and seems to have sold. It seems cheap for the 27k km mileage. I wonder if it has a story, if its the fact that it spent time in Japan or indeed if this is the current actual market.