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Have just purchased this, my third 328GTS from The Ferrari Centre in Kent. Excellent service from them, from meeting Roger and his wife the owners to the sales team. Will be collecting the car in a weeks time after a service and cambelt change. Looking forward to the summer driving despite the petrol prices!
Nice to see this thread come alive again,so much so it encouraged me to drag my track 308GTB out
of it's winter slumber and booked a mot test tomorrow,
Lots of lovely classic cars out at the weekend so hope to be joining them ,
Next try and find a track day that has sensible db levels, :
of it's winter slumber and booked a mot test tomorrow,
Lots of lovely classic cars out at the weekend so hope to be joining them ,
Next try and find a track day that has sensible db levels, :
The recent purchase of a Lotus Elan means that something has to go, so my 328 GTS is for sale after 10 years - it is the Ferrari I have used least.recently.
https://www.autostoresales.co.uk/ferrari328gtsross...
https://www.autostoresales.co.uk/ferrari328gtsross...
Sat here watching series 1 Magnum PI. It was this program that got me into my first Ferrari, a 308GTS whilst I was serving in the then Royal Hong Kong Police. Albeit my 308 was yellow. After a few years of ownership I ‘upgraded’ to a 328GTS around 1996. Was great fun owning this and the other cars that I had during my time in Hong Kong.
Roll on next Saturday and I will be sure to post some more photos…..
Apparently my 328 GTS is an ugly, unwanted dog of a Ferrari, because it's an ABS car!:
Strangely, it only seems to be some "Ferrari people" who feel that way about it.
Some "Ferrari people", and just about all non "Ferrari people" who see it, tell me it's just a beautiful car - And I agree with them!
Strangely, it only seems to be some "Ferrari people" who feel that way about it.
Some "Ferrari people", and just about all non "Ferrari people" who see it, tell me it's just a beautiful car - And I agree with them!
Ugly? Unwanted?
Wow
I chose my one because it has ABS! I have had a 308GTS, a pre ABS 328 and now this is my second ABS one.
The shape is classic and the same whether it’s ABS or not, the interior is gorgeous and with ABS it is in my opinion safer for me to drive ‘every day’ should I so wish. So naysayers, have you views and opinions but as far as I am concerned it’s a gorgeous car and I am ecstatic to be owning one again….
Wow
I chose my one because it has ABS! I have had a 308GTS, a pre ABS 328 and now this is my second ABS one.
The shape is classic and the same whether it’s ABS or not, the interior is gorgeous and with ABS it is in my opinion safer for me to drive ‘every day’ should I so wish. So naysayers, have you views and opinions but as far as I am concerned it’s a gorgeous car and I am ecstatic to be owning one again….
4rephill said:
Apparently my 328 GTS is an ugly, unwanted dog of a Ferrari, because it's an ABS car!:
Strangely, it only seems to be some "Ferrari people" who feel that way about it.
Some "Ferrari people", and just about all non "Ferrari people" who see it, tell me it's just a beautiful car - And I agree with them!
When I had my 328 GTS, I chose pre-ABS as I do prefer the look, but would never go so far as to say the ABS one is ugly. Compared to 99.999% of cars, it’s clearly a looker. I mean, look at it...Strangely, it only seems to be some "Ferrari people" who feel that way about it.
Some "Ferrari people", and just about all non "Ferrari people" who see it, tell me it's just a beautiful car - And I agree with them!
Personally think the GTB is best looking 328 of all, which seems to go counter to popular opinion and certainly how they’re priced. If I ever got another 328, would go for that.
67Dino said:
4rephill said:
Apparently my 328 GTS is an ugly, unwanted dog of a Ferrari, because it's an ABS car!:
Strangely, it only seems to be some "Ferrari people" who feel that way about it.
Some "Ferrari people", and just about all non "Ferrari people" who see it, tell me it's just a beautiful car - And I agree with them!
When I had my 328 GTS, I chose pre-ABS as I do prefer the look, but would never go so far as to say the ABS one is ugly. Compared to 99.999% of cars, it’s clearly a looker. I mean, look at it...Strangely, it only seems to be some "Ferrari people" who feel that way about it.
Some "Ferrari people", and just about all non "Ferrari people" who see it, tell me it's just a beautiful car - And I agree with them!
Personally think the GTB is best looking 328 of all, which seems to go counter to popular opinion and certainly how they’re priced. If I ever got another 328, would go for that.
same as the early 911 Targa 's although on a hot sunny day i would probably take a GTS every time ,
The only problem i have with the ABS 328 is the wheels much preferring the dished alloys of the earlier cars,
You could say putting visual effect above stopping power .
My: "Ugly, unwanted dog of a car" comment was a bit of a tongue in cheek exaggeration, but some people talk about the convex wheels as though they absolutely ruin the whole look of the car, and make it completely undesirable (you get similar opinions on the Ferrarichat site when it comes to the wheels)
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones in that, the style of the wheels make no difference to me about how the car looks, whatsoever - It's still beautiful car
The reason for the convex wheels was due to Ferrari modifying the 328 chassis in February 1988, to fit the suspension and ABS setup from the 3.2 Mondial (The cars becoming known as "88.5" cars).
The change to the 328's front suspension meant the geometry was changed from earlier 328's, with an anti-dive setup now incorporated, to aid the ABS system. The suspension pick up points were altered, which meant that the previous flat face wheels no longer fitted the car due to clearance issues. Ferrari's solution was to make the wheels convex, in order to clear the suspension mounting points.
There is a myth that all 328's fitted with convex wheels are ABS cars, but that is not true - It depends which market you live in.
For UK market cars, from February 1988, ABS became a standard factory fit, so cars supplied with convex wheels were all ABS cars.
In most mainland European markets, and in the USA, ABS was a factory cost option, which wasn't always ordered. The cars without ABS though, still came with the revised front suspension though, so the convex wheels were still required.
The other thing that the ABS cars get looked down upon by some 328 owners/fans, is the ABS brake system.
328 owners talk about not wanting an ABS version, because they don't want a driver aid spoiling the purity of driving the car, as though the ABS system is like a traction control system that cuts in at the slightest provocation (the 348 gets the same "car with driver aids" accusation thrown at it)
The reality is, the ABS should make no difference to how the car drives whatsoever - It should only activate under extreme, emergency braking - Something which 328 (and 348) driver's will hardly ever encounter these days.
And funnily enough, the " '88.5" cars are actually noted as having slightly better steering than the earlier cars (it's not night and day different, but the later cars have a slightly wider front track, and slightly less nervous steering feel)
It's a case of personal preference at the end of the day. For some the convex wheels are a big deal, for others, they aren't - I fall into the latter category
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones in that, the style of the wheels make no difference to me about how the car looks, whatsoever - It's still beautiful car
The reason for the convex wheels was due to Ferrari modifying the 328 chassis in February 1988, to fit the suspension and ABS setup from the 3.2 Mondial (The cars becoming known as "88.5" cars).
The change to the 328's front suspension meant the geometry was changed from earlier 328's, with an anti-dive setup now incorporated, to aid the ABS system. The suspension pick up points were altered, which meant that the previous flat face wheels no longer fitted the car due to clearance issues. Ferrari's solution was to make the wheels convex, in order to clear the suspension mounting points.
There is a myth that all 328's fitted with convex wheels are ABS cars, but that is not true - It depends which market you live in.
For UK market cars, from February 1988, ABS became a standard factory fit, so cars supplied with convex wheels were all ABS cars.
In most mainland European markets, and in the USA, ABS was a factory cost option, which wasn't always ordered. The cars without ABS though, still came with the revised front suspension though, so the convex wheels were still required.
The other thing that the ABS cars get looked down upon by some 328 owners/fans, is the ABS brake system.
328 owners talk about not wanting an ABS version, because they don't want a driver aid spoiling the purity of driving the car, as though the ABS system is like a traction control system that cuts in at the slightest provocation (the 348 gets the same "car with driver aids" accusation thrown at it)
The reality is, the ABS should make no difference to how the car drives whatsoever - It should only activate under extreme, emergency braking - Something which 328 (and 348) driver's will hardly ever encounter these days.
And funnily enough, the " '88.5" cars are actually noted as having slightly better steering than the earlier cars (it's not night and day different, but the later cars have a slightly wider front track, and slightly less nervous steering feel)
It's a case of personal preference at the end of the day. For some the convex wheels are a big deal, for others, they aren't - I fall into the latter category
4rephill said:
My: "Ugly, unwanted dog of a car" comment was a bit of a tongue in cheek exaggeration, but some people talk about the convex wheels as though they absolutely ruin the whole look of the car, and make it completely undesirable (you get similar opinions on the Ferrarichat site when it comes to the wheels)
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones in that, the style of the wheels make no difference to me about how the car looks, whatsoever - It's still beautiful car
The reason for the convex wheels was due to Ferrari modifying the 328 chassis in February 1988, to fit the suspension and ABS setup from the 3.2 Mondial (The cars becoming known as "88.5" cars).
The change to the 328's front suspension meant the geometry was changed from earlier 328's, with an anti-dive setup now incorporated, to aid the ABS system. The suspension pick up points were altered, which meant that the previous flat face wheels no longer fitted the car due to clearance issues. Ferrari's solution was to make the wheels convex, in order to clear the suspension mounting points.
There is a myth that all 328's fitted with convex wheels are ABS cars, but that is not true - It depends which market you live in.
For UK market cars, from February 1988, ABS became a standard factory fit, so cars supplied with convex wheels were all ABS cars.
In most mainland European markets, and in the USA, ABS was a factory cost option, which wasn't always ordered. The cars without ABS though, still came with the revised front suspension though, so the convex wheels were still required.
The other thing that the ABS cars get looked down upon by some 328 owners/fans, is the ABS brake system.
328 owners talk about not wanting an ABS version, because they don't want a driver aid spoiling the purity of driving the car, as though the ABS system is like a traction control system that cuts in at the slightest provocation (the 348 gets the same "car with driver aids" accusation thrown at it)
The reality is, the ABS should make no difference to how the car drives whatsoever - It should only activate under extreme, emergency braking - Something which 328 (and 348) driver's will hardly ever encounter these days.
And funnily enough, the " '88.5" cars are actually noted as having slightly better steering than the earlier cars (it's not night and day different, but the later cars have a slightly wider front track, and slightly less nervous steering feel)
It's a case of personal preference at the end of the day. For some the convex wheels are a big deal, for others, they aren't - I fall into the latter category
Thank you for that detail. Mine has ABS and I deliberately chose an ABS model because I once had an accident that I could have avoided if I had had ABS, so I’m convinced of the benefits. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones in that, the style of the wheels make no difference to me about how the car looks, whatsoever - It's still beautiful car
The reason for the convex wheels was due to Ferrari modifying the 328 chassis in February 1988, to fit the suspension and ABS setup from the 3.2 Mondial (The cars becoming known as "88.5" cars).
The change to the 328's front suspension meant the geometry was changed from earlier 328's, with an anti-dive setup now incorporated, to aid the ABS system. The suspension pick up points were altered, which meant that the previous flat face wheels no longer fitted the car due to clearance issues. Ferrari's solution was to make the wheels convex, in order to clear the suspension mounting points.
There is a myth that all 328's fitted with convex wheels are ABS cars, but that is not true - It depends which market you live in.
For UK market cars, from February 1988, ABS became a standard factory fit, so cars supplied with convex wheels were all ABS cars.
In most mainland European markets, and in the USA, ABS was a factory cost option, which wasn't always ordered. The cars without ABS though, still came with the revised front suspension though, so the convex wheels were still required.
The other thing that the ABS cars get looked down upon by some 328 owners/fans, is the ABS brake system.
328 owners talk about not wanting an ABS version, because they don't want a driver aid spoiling the purity of driving the car, as though the ABS system is like a traction control system that cuts in at the slightest provocation (the 348 gets the same "car with driver aids" accusation thrown at it)
The reality is, the ABS should make no difference to how the car drives whatsoever - It should only activate under extreme, emergency braking - Something which 328 (and 348) driver's will hardly ever encounter these days.
And funnily enough, the " '88.5" cars are actually noted as having slightly better steering than the earlier cars (it's not night and day different, but the later cars have a slightly wider front track, and slightly less nervous steering feel)
It's a case of personal preference at the end of the day. For some the convex wheels are a big deal, for others, they aren't - I fall into the latter category
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The first Ferrari I ever saw was in 1979 when I was 9 years old.
It was a red 308 GTS with cream leather interior, parked in a parking area of the small country town that I lived in.
It was half the height of the Cortina's/Marina's/Escorts/Cavaliers etc., etc., etc., parked either side of it, and was half as wide again as they were - It just stood out.
The roof panel was off, and it absolutely gleamed in the sunlight - It was love at first sight!
I took a look around it, but didn't dare touch it.
I couldn't see any external door handles, the holes in the side of the car behind the doors were a mystery (I started to put my hand in one, but then pulled away, as I didn't know what was in there!), and round the back, there 4 exhaust pipes!
There was a bench opposite the Ferrari, and I just sat there for @ 2 hours, completely mesmerished by the car. Then the owner came back, opened the door (I couldn't see how he did it though!), fired the car up, and it sounded as glorious as it looked.
He rolled it slowly onto the road, and started to drive off. I chased after it for as long as I could, and reveled in the sound of the exhaust as it sped away.
I ran home, and excitedly told my Dad about this amazing car I had seen, that was so low and wide, had 4 exhausts, and a horse for a badge.
He took out a car encyclopedia, found the car and said: "Did it look like this?"
"Yes!" I said: "that was it! - What is it?"
"That's a Ferrari son, made in Italy!"
"I'm going to own one of those one day!" I told him.
"No son" he replied, "they're for rich people, not for the likes of us!"
"I will" I said, "one day I will own a Ferrari!"
Magnum pi with Tom Selleck became a "must watch" programme, purely for the 308 GTS in the show (I now own and watch the box set on a regular basis - The Ferrari is still important, but now the characters and story lines are just as good [well, almost!
] )
As I went through middle school, high school, college, and started work, I told friends and colleagues of my love of Ferrari's, and told them that one day, I would own a Ferrari.
Pretty much all of them said that it would never happen, and that I should forget it, as it was a silly dream.
I bought every car magazine that had a Ferrari article or test drive in it, and I watched the 308 GTS become the 328 GTS. To me it was a fabulous update of a classic design.
With a lot of overtime, and a lot of sacrifices made to save money, seven years ago I bought my first Ferrari - Not a 308/328 GTS (the prices for both were just too high at the time), but a 1990 348 TS - Red, with cream leather.
I owned it for two years, and loved it to pieces, but fate and finances made it impossible to keep, so with great sadness, I had to let it go
After I'd sold it, it went on to appear in a couple of Youtube video's on Number27's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2r_Vb_uY84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzW7Q-K9rNM&t=...
Five years after selling the 348, fate, and a lot more overtime worked, made it possible for me to buy my current 328 GTS..
Whilst I loved my 348 (and still do - You never forget your first Ferrari!), my 328 GTS is closer to that first Ferrari that I saw back in 1979.
The 308 GTS is still "the" Ferrari to me, the absolute love of my life, but prices are still too high for me right now, and the chance to own my 328 GTS was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
I still have dreams of owning a 308 GTS one day (a QV model - Red with cream leather interior), but should my current 328 GTS be the last Ferrari I ever own, I will have no regrets
It was a red 308 GTS with cream leather interior, parked in a parking area of the small country town that I lived in.
It was half the height of the Cortina's/Marina's/Escorts/Cavaliers etc., etc., etc., parked either side of it, and was half as wide again as they were - It just stood out.
The roof panel was off, and it absolutely gleamed in the sunlight - It was love at first sight!
I took a look around it, but didn't dare touch it.
I couldn't see any external door handles, the holes in the side of the car behind the doors were a mystery (I started to put my hand in one, but then pulled away, as I didn't know what was in there!), and round the back, there 4 exhaust pipes!
There was a bench opposite the Ferrari, and I just sat there for @ 2 hours, completely mesmerished by the car. Then the owner came back, opened the door (I couldn't see how he did it though!), fired the car up, and it sounded as glorious as it looked.
He rolled it slowly onto the road, and started to drive off. I chased after it for as long as I could, and reveled in the sound of the exhaust as it sped away.
I ran home, and excitedly told my Dad about this amazing car I had seen, that was so low and wide, had 4 exhausts, and a horse for a badge.
He took out a car encyclopedia, found the car and said: "Did it look like this?"
"Yes!" I said: "that was it! - What is it?"
"That's a Ferrari son, made in Italy!"
"I'm going to own one of those one day!" I told him.
"No son" he replied, "they're for rich people, not for the likes of us!"
"I will" I said, "one day I will own a Ferrari!"
Magnum pi with Tom Selleck became a "must watch" programme, purely for the 308 GTS in the show (I now own and watch the box set on a regular basis - The Ferrari is still important, but now the characters and story lines are just as good [well, almost!
] )As I went through middle school, high school, college, and started work, I told friends and colleagues of my love of Ferrari's, and told them that one day, I would own a Ferrari.
Pretty much all of them said that it would never happen, and that I should forget it, as it was a silly dream.
I bought every car magazine that had a Ferrari article or test drive in it, and I watched the 308 GTS become the 328 GTS. To me it was a fabulous update of a classic design.
With a lot of overtime, and a lot of sacrifices made to save money, seven years ago I bought my first Ferrari - Not a 308/328 GTS (the prices for both were just too high at the time), but a 1990 348 TS - Red, with cream leather.
I owned it for two years, and loved it to pieces, but fate and finances made it impossible to keep, so with great sadness, I had to let it go
After I'd sold it, it went on to appear in a couple of Youtube video's on Number27's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2r_Vb_uY84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzW7Q-K9rNM&t=...
Five years after selling the 348, fate, and a lot more overtime worked, made it possible for me to buy my current 328 GTS..
Whilst I loved my 348 (and still do - You never forget your first Ferrari!), my 328 GTS is closer to that first Ferrari that I saw back in 1979.
The 308 GTS is still "the" Ferrari to me, the absolute love of my life, but prices are still too high for me right now, and the chance to own my 328 GTS was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
I still have dreams of owning a 308 GTS one day (a QV model - Red with cream leather interior), but should my current 328 GTS be the last Ferrari I ever own, I will have no regrets
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