2008 Superleggera Register
Discussion
David_T said:
Now another one, this one an original 2008 UK supplied white car with an orange wrap:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13730167
What are peoples thoughts on this car? Colour looks good but should there be concerns over the wrap and what lies beneath?https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13730167
It's dropped £5k so maybe not a flood of buyers for it?
Sarnie said:
i've never seen one with both alcantara seats looking that rough 
Capcom said:
David_T said:
Now another one, this one an original 2008 UK supplied white car with an orange wrap:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13730167
What are peoples thoughts on this car? Colour looks good but should there be concerns over the wrap and what lies beneath?https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13730167
It's dropped £5k so maybe not a flood of buyers for it?
then factor in that the latter car has now reverted to an original looking bumper since previously advertised, and the advice on the bottom of page 19.
David_T said:
If you are considering the merits of the orange wrapped white car against the original orange car advertised on Autotrader:
then factor in that the latter car has now reverted to an original looking bumper since previously advertised, and the advice on the bottom of page 19.
I certainly wouldn't consider that car, not sure who would really.then factor in that the latter car has now reverted to an original looking bumper since previously advertised, and the advice on the bottom of page 19.
I was keen to know other peoples opinion of the wrapped car, and also it's value.
If it's the car I think it is, it was up for circa £105k about 18 months ago, unwrapped.
It's now £10k more with a wrap which brings a lot of concerns to me, around the condition of the paint underneath when the wrap comes off. Thoughts?
Capcom said:
I was keen to know other peoples opinion of the wrapped car, and also it's value.
If it's the car I think it is, it was up for circa £105k about 18 months ago, unwrapped.
It's now £10k more with a wrap which brings a lot of concerns to me, around the condition of the paint underneath when the wrap comes off. Thoughts?
Some thoughts:If it's the car I think it is, it was up for circa £105k about 18 months ago, unwrapped.
It's now £10k more with a wrap which brings a lot of concerns to me, around the condition of the paint underneath when the wrap comes off. Thoughts?
If you were to buy the car, when the time comes to sell and assuming that it still has the wrap, potential buyers will be asking you the exact same question - what's the condition of the paint underneath? Was the wrap done purely to change the colour to orange, was it done to conceal any or multiple paint defects, or a combination of both?
Does the seller have any evidence e.g. video, etc, of the pre-wrapped paint condition to prove that it was generally very good, or identifying any minor defects? Possibly for some potential buyers the existence of a wrap may mean that they don't even bother to make an enquiry, not even if the wrap is a standard original colour.
If there was also an exactly similar in all respects original UK orange coloured car on the market to consider, would you even bother to look at the wrapped car? The existence of the wrap introduces both an unknown and at some point an extra cost.
Do you actually want an original UK white coloured car but are worried about what's hidden beneath the wrap, as the first job you'll do when it's your's will be to get the wrap removed? How much does it cost to remove the wrap, assuming that removing the wrap which is no older than 18 months if you are correct, causes no additional damage to the paint or the parts which need to be removed?
If you have a preferred colour, both are now only available in very small numbers. How long are you prepared to wait for the right one to come along?
For the cars advertised from about summer 2022 on, all the initial advertised prices have started at the same point. The value is as always what someone is prepared to pay for it and of course what the seller is prepared to let it go for, dependant upon their circumstances at the time. How keen the seller is to sell can be established by making an enquiry and/or leaving your details if they initially seem quite fixed on the selling price.
David_T said:
Some thoughts:
If you were to buy the car, when the time comes to sell and assuming that it still has the wrap, potential buyers will be asking you the exact same question - what's the condition of the paint underneath? Was the wrap done purely to change the colour to orange, was it done to conceal any or multiple paint defects, or a combination of both?
Does the seller have any evidence e.g. video, etc, of the pre-wrapped paint condition to prove that it was generally very good, or identifying any minor defects? Possibly for some potential buyers the existence of a wrap may mean that they don't even bother to make an enquiry, not even if the wrap is a standard original colour.
If there was also an exactly similar in all respects original UK orange coloured car on the market to consider, would you even bother to look at the wrapped car? The existence of the wrap introduces both an unknown and at some point an extra cost.
Do you actually want an original UK white coloured car but are worried about what's hidden beneath the wrap, as the first job you'll do when it's your's will be to get the wrap removed? How much does it cost to remove the wrap, assuming that removing the wrap which is no older than 18 months if you are correct, causes no additional damage to the paint or the parts which need to be removed?
If you have a preferred colour, both are now only available in very small numbers. How long are you prepared to wait for the right one to come along?
For the cars advertised from about summer 2022 on, all the initial advertised prices have started at the same point. The value is as always what someone is prepared to pay for it and of course what the seller is prepared to let it go for, dependant upon their circumstances at the time. How keen the seller is to sell can be established by making an enquiry and/or leaving your details if they initially seem quite fixed on the selling price.
You've touched on nearly all of my concerns to be fair.If you were to buy the car, when the time comes to sell and assuming that it still has the wrap, potential buyers will be asking you the exact same question - what's the condition of the paint underneath? Was the wrap done purely to change the colour to orange, was it done to conceal any or multiple paint defects, or a combination of both?
Does the seller have any evidence e.g. video, etc, of the pre-wrapped paint condition to prove that it was generally very good, or identifying any minor defects? Possibly for some potential buyers the existence of a wrap may mean that they don't even bother to make an enquiry, not even if the wrap is a standard original colour.
If there was also an exactly similar in all respects original UK orange coloured car on the market to consider, would you even bother to look at the wrapped car? The existence of the wrap introduces both an unknown and at some point an extra cost.
Do you actually want an original UK white coloured car but are worried about what's hidden beneath the wrap, as the first job you'll do when it's your's will be to get the wrap removed? How much does it cost to remove the wrap, assuming that removing the wrap which is no older than 18 months if you are correct, causes no additional damage to the paint or the parts which need to be removed?
If you have a preferred colour, both are now only available in very small numbers. How long are you prepared to wait for the right one to come along?
For the cars advertised from about summer 2022 on, all the initial advertised prices have started at the same point. The value is as always what someone is prepared to pay for it and of course what the seller is prepared to let it go for, dependant upon their circumstances at the time. How keen the seller is to sell can be established by making an enquiry and/or leaving your details if they initially seem quite fixed on the selling price.
The concern is that you are buying a car with a massive unknown against it, which is the condition of the paint beneath. At some point the wrap has to come off, at a cost. Then if the paint has issues, that needs to be rectified. Or you pay for another wrap to be put on again. Then you have the same issue in the future with future potential buyers.
I love the colour but personally, I would remove the wrap for buyers to be able see the condition of the car underneath.
Edited by Capcom on Sunday 11th September 10:22
Just looking through this thread - it seems that white SL1 for sale here https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13730167 (that was orange) is still for sale several months later. It seems that the super car market is all over the place at the moment.
Does anyone know anything about the car? Is it OK ?
Does anyone know anything about the car? Is it OK ?
PorscheGirl said:
Just looking through this thread - it seems that white SL1 for sale here https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13730167 (that was orange) is still for sale several months later. It seems that the super car market is all over the place at the moment.
Does anyone know anything about the car? Is it OK ?
so you're looking again ?Does anyone know anything about the car? Is it OK ?
PorscheGirl said:
I've only recently been on the search for an SL.
I can't work out from the thread if people know the car and don't like it or just don't know the car,
There are 3 SL1s referred to on this page 21:I can't work out from the thread if people know the car and don't like it or just don't know the car,
An original white car, which had an orange wrap which is now removed, so now back to white again;
An original UK orange car;
An original UK grey car.
For 2 of these 3 cars there is history that many potential buyers would probably want to be aware of before making a decision. Check back if you are serious.
I don’t think anyone is saying that there’s anything wrong with the white car, just that the condition of the paintwork beneath the wrap was unknown. The wrap was then removed so you can now inspect the condition of the original paintwork for yourself to see if it meets your expectations. As andrew has said, there were only 3 original white UK cars. One of the other 2 is seen just recently in the Gallardo Bodywork Conversion Kit thread, so it’s not that one: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
In your search you may have seen how much provenance (history) can add to a car. Ask yourself if this orange SL1 currently advertised on ebay is the same car that was advertised above on this page, just 5 months ago.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225330460526?_trkparms=...
If you followed the link above for the white SL1, you’ll have noticed the pictures of the orange car’s front and especially the rear bodywork customisation during a previous ownership. Then other ‘provenance’ to be aware. Whether or not that provenance adds or detracts value compared to other examples is up to any potential buyer to decide.
Does anyone know, or have you enquired about this UK car at VVS?
Just wondering if it's been in the UK and has been off the radar, or in storage, or if it's been brought back to the UK again?
(It's not the 2008 orange car above which has lower mileage and the SL2 side stripe.)
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14599514
Just wondering if it's been in the UK and has been off the radar, or in storage, or if it's been brought back to the UK again?
(It's not the 2008 orange car above which has lower mileage and the SL2 side stripe.)
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14599514
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