Huracan Performante - radiators

Huracan Performante - radiators

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AL001

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831 posts

278 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Just had a 3k mile HP delivered last week and first chance for close inspection y'day. The left/right front rads look in very poor condition. You can see the line in second pic where it is ok only behind front spoiler "fin". Just been serviced as part of sale and inspection of radiatiors is part of that process, surprised this passed.

How are others finding their rads holding up?




topjay

779 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Previous owner from Birmingham?

Can’t be many in that colour, if so it was on the Lamborghini Italian tour this year, driven very sensibly by a guy that loves cars, but the fronts of the cars get pounded low down with stones following other supercars continuously for 1500 miles.

anonymous-user

62 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Is that damaged? Looks like it just needs a clean...like the rest of the bits in the picture :-)

AL001

Original Poster:

831 posts

278 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Thanks, I suspected this has been caused by following other cars with sticky, wide tyres throwing off stones at high speed on a tour. Thankfully the bodywork is fine due to all over PPF.

Most definitely damaged rads/condensers, rest of car is quite clean. wink

Superleg48

1,525 posts

141 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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It’s only the very thin aluminium fins that are distorted. You only have to breathe on them and they go out of shape. Rads are not “damaged” per se, as in no longer operating correctly, presumably why not flagged at inspection.

If you worried about that, you’ll be replacing the rads every couple of hundred miles for what is essentially a cosmetic issue.

Larry5.2

496 posts

116 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Is it just cosmetic? If the fins are bent over, air wont flow through so cooling will be compromised.
If you do get them replaced then you need to consider a mesh to prevent it happening again.

Superleg48

1,525 posts

141 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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The fins are heat sinks. The are designed to dissipate the heat, rather than act as a conduit for airflow. They will do their job still. The performance of the radiator will be so marginally affected that it won’t make a difference really. Being that low, you’ll replace them and within a few hundred miles, they will start looking exactly the same. As for putting “some sort of mesh” in front of them, if Lambo thought they would need that, they’d have put it there themselves.

My view is this “problem” is a bit of a storm in a tea cup. OP should get a dealer opinion specifically if concerned, but unless the radiators are actually defective, unlikely Lambo will entertain their replacement.


sone

4,596 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Mine has got 5k on it and look much the same. Not in the slightest concerned. These are great cars enjoy them don’t wrap them in cotton wool.

sone

4,596 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Mine has got 5k on it and look much the same. Not in the slightest concerned. These are great cars enjoy them don’t wrap them in cotton wool.

Larry5.2

496 posts

116 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Sorry gents, air has to flow through the radiator to be effective. As the cooling capacity is abundant in "normal" driving you get away with the fins being damaged. If you push the car hard, temperatures will be higher than expected.

If your theory that the folded-over fins are ok was true, then radiators would just be flat surfaces, much like some of the ones you see for central heating at home.

LamboDave

39 posts

134 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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These are not the “radiators” as in engine cooling, they are the a/c condensers. As has previously been stated the fins are there to massively increase the effective cooling area of the assembly. To do this they rely on air flow, as such this amount of damage to the fins is affecting the air flow, not only for the a/c but also the engine cooling radiators which are directly behind. This will cause a lack of efficiency in a/c system and the cooling fans to work harder to cool the engine.

4321go

638 posts

195 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Can’t help but think that that’s jet-washing damage?

70proof

6,078 posts

163 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Are the fins distorted, if not, then air flow is not affected

I assume it's aluminium corrosion where it's been stone chipped

RR50

74 posts

150 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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It's poor design to have no grill in front. Form over function.

Mine has a few of these marks (nothing like this blanket coverage though) but then it has done a fraction of the mileage and I don't tend to drive right up the back of other cars. I can easily see it getting this bad if you were to track the car or closely follow other cars at speed on poorly surfaced roads.

It is not from a jet wash or corrosion. The fins in mine are flattened where the stones have hit so it must reduce the cooling efficiency the worse it gets.


hondansx

4,681 posts

233 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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I had a hole in my condensor... only 3,000 miles in.

After a wait for a replacement (actually not that expensive at less than £300), it's the labour to get it all apart and of course the front bumper coming off that makes it stack up.

Anyway, it's fair to say the rads are in a vulnerable position. Supercar Services are fitting me some rad shields as I type.

Lambo do not replace under warranty...

steveyg83

16 posts

81 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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hondansx said:
I had a hole in my condensor... only 3,000 miles in.

After a wait for a replacement (actually not that expensive at less than £300), it's the labour to get it all apart and of course the front bumper coming off that makes it stack up.

Anyway, it's fair to say the rads are in a vulnerable position. Supercar Services are fitting me some rad shields as I type.

Lambo do not replace under warranty...
When you have had it all done would you put a picture up, would be interested to see how it looks and how exactly they have done it (on the back of the bumper or on the front of the rad for example)

I am definitely going to get it done on mine over the winter, had a stone lodged in the fins from going to Spa, the same day a friend of mine who has a Lotus had a stone hit his rad in just the right place to pierce a hole which meant leaking coolant. He ended up having to get the car picked up and towed back to the UK...

Ferruccio

1,840 posts

127 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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These look very much like the radiator on a Ducati Panigalle.
Which, as only an Italian could design, sits immediately behind the front wheel, so all the crud is thrown straight into it.
They are very, very delicate.
Too delicate too jet wash.
After going through a couple, when it bungs up, I just always now get the dealer to clean it.

mylambo

1 posts

71 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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This is a common problem and is caused by stone chips in normal day to day driving.
Much worse if you are taking the car on the track.

The issue is, if its not replaced the AC will stop working, also behind these vents is the radiator which in turn will overheat and can cause other major engine issues.

Bad design by Lamborghini but they wont entertain the repair.

Just going to have mine replaced next week.

sone

4,596 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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mylambo said:
This is a common problem and is caused by stone chips in normal day to day driving.
Much worse if you are taking the car on the track.

The issue is, if its not replaced the AC will stop working, also behind these vents is the radiator which in turn will overheat and can cause other major engine issues.

Bad design by Lamborghini but they wont entertain the repair.

Just going to have mine replaced next week.
Is this being done under warranty and have you any idea how to protect the new ones?

wazy1984

10 posts

111 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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TO be honest mine is similar now too, intact most Peformantes I have seen have been like this, just a design.

On a side note does anyone else have a weird cracking popping type noise coming from the roof when they driving over a sudden elevation change. I tend to get it when going from a decline to incline in road or turning into a junction which has a slight elevation change. Its like there is some flex and it causes something above to make a crack pop type noise.