Mk1 superleggera

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EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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Sarnie said:
EpsomJames said:
Says full service history though.
You should have bought that one then! wink
Nah, was quite happy with the white one I bought back in 2014 that was in mint condition and 100% original, even if it had missed 1 annual service (less than 500 miles between services) and had another service at an Indie before I bought it.

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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EpsomJames said:
Sarnie said:
markiii said:
theres a yellow in the classifieds at the moment
The butchered car at Shak's? Such a shame!!
Says full service history though.
all those services and no-one noticed that it wasn't a mk1 superleggera ?

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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andrew said:
EpsomJames said:
Sarnie said:
markiii said:
theres a yellow in the classifieds at the moment
The butchered car at Shak's? Such a shame!!
Says full service history though.
all those services and no-one noticed that it wasn't a mk1 superleggera ?
I think it is isn't it?

A mk1 with mk2 nose and mk2 stripes plus a load of other vinyl and some of the interior colour coding going on.

From the photos I can't actually see anything that's not reversible on the car if you wanted to turn back to standard. But it's been up for sale for quite a while and price seems high for the mileage, and the fact it's been "butchered".

The thing stuck to the dash to the far right, not sure what that is?

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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EpsomJames said:
andrew said:
EpsomJames said:
Sarnie said:
markiii said:
theres a yellow in the classifieds at the moment
The butchered car at Shak's? Such a shame!!
Says full service history though.
all those services and no-one noticed that it wasn't a mk1 superleggera ?
I think it is isn't it?

A mk1 with mk2 nose and mk2 stripes plus a load of other vinyl and some of the interior colour coding going on.

From the photos I can't actually see anything that's not reversible on the car if you wanted to turn back to standard. But it's been up for sale for quite a while and price seems high for the mileage, and the fact it's been "butchered".

The thing stuck to the dash to the far right, not sure what that is?
if only we knew an expert on sticking funny noses on mk1 superleggeras...

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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andrew said:
EpsomJames said:
andrew said:
EpsomJames said:
Sarnie said:
markiii said:
theres a yellow in the classifieds at the moment
The butchered car at Shak's? Such a shame!!
Says full service history though.
all those services and no-one noticed that it wasn't a mk1 superleggera ?
I think it is isn't it?

A mk1 with mk2 nose and mk2 stripes plus a load of other vinyl and some of the interior colour coding going on.

From the photos I can't actually see anything that's not reversible on the car if you wanted to turn back to standard. But it's been up for sale for quite a while and price seems high for the mileage, and the fact it's been "butchered".

The thing stuck to the dash to the far right, not sure what that is?
if only we knew an expert on sticking funny noses on mk1 superleggeras...
Well, the fact it once had a funny nose on it and replacement decals didn't stop it from selling quickly, it appears.

How's the "gopping" wing on yours? wink

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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EpsomJames said:
andrew said:
EpsomJames said:
andrew said:
EpsomJames said:
Sarnie said:
markiii said:
theres a yellow in the classifieds at the moment
The butchered car at Shak's? Such a shame!!
Says full service history though.
all those services and no-one noticed that it wasn't a mk1 superleggera ?
I think it is isn't it?

A mk1 with mk2 nose and mk2 stripes plus a load of other vinyl and some of the interior colour coding going on.

From the photos I can't actually see anything that's not reversible on the car if you wanted to turn back to standard. But it's been up for sale for quite a while and price seems high for the mileage, and the fact it's been "butchered".

The thing stuck to the dash to the far right, not sure what that is?
if only we knew an expert on sticking funny noses on mk1 superleggeras...
Well, the fact it once had a funny nose on it and replacement decals didn't stop it from selling quickly, it appears.

How's the "gopping" wing on yours? wink
fine ta !
ps : the "2016" bit gives it away smile

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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andrew said:
fine ta !
ps : the "2016" bit gives it away smile
Yeah the date is odd (or a mistake). But if it's not a mk1 Superleggera then a lot of work has gone into making it look like one, and a bit of a mk2 too.

David_T

115 posts

80 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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EpsomJames said:
Sarnie said:
markiii said:
theres a yellow in the classifieds at the moment
The butchered car at Shak's? Such a shame!!
Says full service history though.
That raises an interesting point. The car has been advertised at Shaks since at least Feb 2017. They haven't really bothered to update the wording since, so what are clearly yellow calipers in the photos are still described as black. The advert then says and still says 'With Full Service History'. They haven't updated the MOT which expired on 2nd April 2017, assuming that the car remains on the same registration. So has there been any servicing in that, at least 3 year period? Perhaps the 'Full Service History' now includes what some would view as a gap.

Some of the customising may be acceptable to UK buyers but all of the customising as presented seems to be too much for UK buyers since marketed. I'm curious to know, could the yellow covered head area of the seats actually have been part of an Ad Personam factory programme of the time? If so then perhaps the yellow central area, door pull levers, air vents, etc could have been part of the same programme. Clearly the SL2 front bumper and side stripe wouldn't have been part of that programme so would have been subsequent.


Perhaps if it was just the SL2 front bumper and side stripe, with all the additional black painted and red pinstripe areas removed, it would be more appealing. Unfortunately that still leaves the interior! Only my opinion of course.

The front and rear lights are SL1. The first registration date from the MOT was 21/01/2008, so it's definitely an SL1.

Edit: The 2016 mentioned in the above posts probably relates to when it came to the UK. The MOT was dated April 2016.

Edited by David_T on Saturday 8th August 10:59

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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oops, seen the pics now yikes

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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andrew said:
oops, seen the pics now yikes
It has the recycled canoe stuck to the front treatment, as you once put it laugh

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th August 2020
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EpsomJames said:
andrew said:
oops, seen the pics now yikes
It has the recycled canoe stuck to the front treatment, as you once put it laugh
what sort of idiot would try and modify a superleggera ? smile

David_T

115 posts

80 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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What’s happening with and where are the at one time UK LHD SL1’s?

Seeing from yellowtr’s recent post that his Orange SL1 is now for sale in Austria it occurs to me that of the LHD cars advertised for sale, none of the new owners seem to appear on PH. That may not be a total surprise as perhaps less than a 1/3rd of the previous owners posted on here.

yellowtr said:
My old car is up for sale in Austria and the owner wants €130k for it, he paid just under £80k for it in November so I think he is dreaming. Car was perfect, literally out the box fresh.
I’m wondering, if like yellowtr’s orange car, the LHD cars at UK prices have been very attractive to European buyers (or other LHD countries) so have been leaving the UK. I’m making an assumption that cars that are no longer advertised have eventually been sold.

So the question is, what’s happened to the following previously advertised LHD cars. Are they still in the UK or now exported?

White 2008, high rear wing, previously Fast Eddie’s W333 SAL, for sale c July 2020
White 2008, high rear wing, dark coloured roof, previously for sale at Veloce’s c June 2018
Orange 2007, low rear wing, orange calipers, L16 MBO Cat D, orange speedo and handbrake surrounds, for sale privately c Sep 2018
Grey 2008, low rear wing, V10 MPH, previously footsoldier’s, for sale c March 2017
Grey 2008, high rear wing, LL57 ZNM, centre vented front bumper, was at Motorhub’s for a long time, gone by late 2019
Yellow 2007, high rear wing, RFZ 11, unsold at Silverstone Auctions Jan 2019
Yellow 2008, low rear wing, LW08 NCA, cc brakes, was for sale at Barr Tech’s c Aug 2017
Black wrapped Verde Ithaca 2007, high rear wing, for sale Sterling Performance c Aug 2018, then at Slades c April 2019
Black 2009, low rear wing, cc brakes, was for sale at VVS c Nov 2018

There may be others that I've missed.

Drclarke

1,185 posts

173 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Someone should change the title of this to the ‘I nearly bought one but always found an excuse not to’ thread !

yellowtr

1,188 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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David_T said:
I’m wondering, if like yellowtr’s orange car, the LHD cars at UK prices have been very attractive to European buyers (or other LHD countries) so have been leaving the UK. I’m making an assumption that cars that are no longer advertised have eventually been sold.

So the question is, what’s happened to the following previously advertised LHD cars. Are they still in the UK or now exported?

White 2008, high rear wing, previously Fast Eddie’s W333 SAL, for sale c July 2020
White 2008, high rear wing, dark coloured roof, previously for sale at Veloce’s c June 2018
Orange 2007, low rear wing, orange calipers, L16 MBO Cat D, orange speedo and handbrake surrounds, for sale privately c Sep 2018
Grey 2008, low rear wing, V10 MPH, previously footsoldier’s, for sale c March 2017
Grey 2008, high rear wing, LL57 ZNM, centre vented front bumper, was at Motorhub’s for a long time, gone by late 2019
Yellow 2007, high rear wing, RFZ 11, unsold at Silverstone Auctions Jan 2019
Yellow 2008, low rear wing, LW08 NCA, cc brakes, was for sale at Barr Tech’s c Aug 2017
Black wrapped Verde Ithaca 2007, high rear wing, for sale Sterling Performance c Aug 2018, then at Slades c April 2019
Black 2009, low rear wing, cc brakes, was for sale at VVS c Nov 2018

There may be others that I've missed.
Orange car is being used by a track experience company now based in the UK.

http://www.gallardosuperleggera.com/ Seems to track down VINs and locations of them around the globe.

David_T

115 posts

80 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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yellowtr said:
Orange car is being used by a track experience company now based in the UK.

http://www.gallardosuperleggera.com/ Seems to track down VINs and locations of them around the globe.
Oh that's a great spot to have found Orange L16 MBO. It's even still showing the same registration. I have been on that website before but it wasn't there when I last looked. That's a great acquisition for them, it's probably the most desirable colour of those originally available and they won't be worried about the Cat D status. It's interesting that it will be available at 14 venues on set dates for 2020 rather than being based at just one venue, or a small number as per some of the other cars held for some while. It will be getting exposure.
Edit: https://www.trackdays.co.uk/experience/lamborghini...

As far as I can see Orange L16 MBO and grey V10 MPH are not on the website referred to. Possibly that's because the VINs are not known.
For the others the last known whereabouts is recorded but it occurs to me that some as per yellowtr's previous orange car could now be abroad. Where a previous registration was known there's no current MOT for the car. The car could of course now be on a private plate.

What also leads me to the thought is that for RHD cars in the UK, as has been shown with the white car which sold in a matter of days, UK buyers want originality with service history. So far the customised yellow RHD car at Shaks hasn't appealed to buyers in more than 3 years.

For the LHD cars listed, the grey Motorhub car had the big central front bumper vent, presumably to assist with increased performance. The Verde wrapped black car has a red control button/switch on the centre consol, presumably for increased performance. So has the same criteria applied, even at lower LHD prices, UK buyers still want standard with no significant performance modification history. In which case these cars may have gone somewhere where such performance modifications are considered acceptable or even desirable.

For the sake of clarity, I'm not looking to buy a LHD SL1, just keeping a general eye on SL1s in the UK.

Edited by David_T on Saturday 15th August 07:26

Drclarke

1,185 posts

173 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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There is another white one for sale on Pistonheads. I think it’s a Super leggera

David_T

115 posts

80 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Drclarke said:
There is another white one for sale on Pistonheads. I think it’s a Super leggera
It's the white Elms Collection car again but with a price increase!
It has full Lamborghini service history, is a UK supplied car and has the 'must have high rear wing', where's Sarnie?

Edit: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10713118?c... Now with pictures.


Edited by David_T on Saturday 15th August 07:20

Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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David_T said:
It's the white Elms Collection car again but with a price increase!
It has full Lamborghini service history, is a UK supplied car and has the 'must have high rear wing', where's Sarnie?
It looks well in the pictures!

It might be the HDR pictures, but the wheels look lighter than standard?

It's overpriced (for me personally) at £110k............

Scott Laurie

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148 posts

151 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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The wheels are light in the SL on pistonheads. Unlikely any car that is 12 years old and 27k miles hasn’t had the wheels redone. It’s not expensive to get them repainted the correct colour. I put a set of huracan ones on mine for a change. Changes the look quite a bit. I may disbarred from this thread for not having a standard car. Lol.

Scott Laurie

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148 posts

151 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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