Mk1 superleggera

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jamesaevans

63 posts

262 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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LHD grey car popped up on The Octane Collection website today:


Looks a bit overpriced given the miles 24k and being a LHD import from Europe?

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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^ now that is a thing of beauty

it even has the world's best radio blanking plate thumbup

Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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650spider said:
There is a reason that owners of these keep calling them 'keepers'.

The inability to have any mug buy it.

Does pistonheads classified offer a deal for a 24 month advert for these?

It seems as though all the ones for sale have been advertised for that and more.

It was antiquated on launch about 15 years ago.
Partly agree.

I've hankered for one for a long time and have posted a fair amount on this thread about that.

The current owners and sellers wax lyrical about them, which is great..........but most of the cars have been listed for for a long, long time.........which means that the market for them is tiny........... and/or they aren't priced correctly........I would have bought the white one for sale when it was listed last July, but for me it's about £10k overpriced.........

650spider

1,476 posts

171 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Sarnie said:
Partly agree.

I've hankered for one for a long time and have posted a fair amount on this thread about that.

The current owners and sellers wax lyrical about them, which is great..........but most of the cars have been listed for for a long, long time.........which means that the market for them is tiny........... and/or they aren't priced correctly........I would have bought the white one for sale when it was listed last July, but for me it's about £10k overpriced.........
Careful Sarnie, you will be accused of being 'strange' again for talking down the prices of stuff that doesn't sell.

Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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650spider said:
Careful Sarnie, you will be accused of being 'strange' again for talking down the prices of stuff that doesn't sell.
I'll survive.

But the fact they are ALL still for sale is indicative of them being too expensive.........

WCZ

10,525 posts

194 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Sarnie said:
I'll survive.

But the fact they are ALL still for sale is indicative of them being too expensive.........
the market is always right but imo in this case it makes no sense

the premium for a SL is just £10-20k over an ordinary gallado

can't think of any other lightweight special edition supercars commanding such a little premium

the murci SV trades at a much bigger premium but is still surprisingly cheap considering how few of them exist

I think that modern lambos just aren't that collectable in the eyes of the market

650spider

1,476 posts

171 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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WCZ said:
the murci SV trades at a much bigger premium but is still surprisingly cheap considering how few of them exist

I think that modern lambos just aren't that collectable in the eyes of the market
Even when Ferraris turn into the old cars of yesteryear, they are still Ferraris and on some level people would have one if they ever had the opportunity no matter how poor they maybe be compared to modern cars.

Lambo are not in this category.

Performante maybe bucks this trend but the only person I know whom was desperate for one sold after 9 months at a rather large loss as it was too noisy and uncomfortable for general cutting around in.


Superleg48

1,524 posts

133 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Over-optimism on the part of sellers is not unique to these cars. It is everywhere.

The fact of the matter is that it is more common than not for cars like this to be advertised at least 10% over where they should be BEFORE negotiations begin.

If you want to sell, you have to take a bit of a realism pill, take the value you think it’s worth, deduct about 10% and invite offers.

Or don’t sell and continue to enjoy these cars for the great cars they are.

WCZ

10,525 posts

194 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Superleg48 said:
Over-optimism on the part of sellers is not unique to these cars. It is everywhere.
this isn't trying to sell a pista at well over list or something deluded like that though, the actual parts alone are worth more than the price difference between a normal mk1 gallado and a sl on the market

it's truly strange

slightly off topic but it's interesting to see how SLR's have finally appreciated in value, they were £150k a couple of years ago, £250k+ now and the special editions like the 722 £600k+!

Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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WCZ said:
this isn't trying to sell a pista at well over list or something deluded like that though, the actual parts alone are worth more than the price difference between a normal mk1 gallado and a sl on the market

it's truly strange

slightly off topic but it's interesting to see how SLR's have finally appreciated in value, they were £150k a couple of years ago, £250k+ now and the special editions like the 722 £600k+!
MK1 gallardo's are circa £65k to £75k........so the SL's are listed £30k to £40k more than these. LP560's at £75k-£85k for 2008-09 cars.........I went to see the grey Eric Clapton car at Supercar rooms.......lovely thing on SOR but the owner was insistent on listing it for £125k......reduced to £115k now but still on sale.

The biggest shame is that these cars are sat being unused over all these years they are sat at dealers........

birdcage

2,840 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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jamesaevans said:
LHD grey car popped up on The Octane Collection website today:


Looks a bit overpriced given the miles 24k and being a LHD import from Europe?
It's expensive, I explored a price with the owner and it wasn't 95k


Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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birdcage said:
It's expensive, I explored a price with the owner and it wasn't 95k
Tried to PM you but no option to do so.

Scott Laurie

Original Poster:

148 posts

151 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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new front PU, keeping old one so can always return to stock, but nice change,

scott

Scott Laurie

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148 posts

151 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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markiii

3,611 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Got a before picture?

Scott Laurie

Original Poster:

148 posts

151 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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markiii said:
Got a before picture?

markiii

3,611 posts

194 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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thanks, where did you get the new PU?

David_T

115 posts

80 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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jamesaevans said:
What are everyone's thought on the relative merits of the 4 Mk1 SLs currently for sale?


Assuming that are all in good/similar condition the black car looks to be the best value. But is the unpopular colour the reason for this cars cheaper price even given the lower mileage of the 4 cars currently for sale?

James
Six months on, an update as at today, 8th June:
The white 2008 car above was listed as sold by 24/04/21 (at a subsequently listed higher advertised price.)
The black 2008 car above is no longer listed on Top Gears website or listed on Pistonheads or Autotrader.
The grey 2007 car above is no longer listed on VVS website or listed on Pistonheads or Autotrader.

RHD cars currently advertised:
The grey 2009 ex Eric Clapton car pictured above at SuperCar Rooms.
The 2008 black car 26,000 miles car on Simon Furlongers website: https://simonfurlonger.co.uk/cars/show.php?id=1163...
Also the following which there have been other posts on:
The 2007 grey car not currently on Pistonheads or Autotrader but still listed on Motorhub's website:https://www.motor-hub.co.uk/used-cars/lamborghini-gallardo-5-0-v10-superleggera-4wd-2dr-keighley-201809130467691.
The personalised 2008 yellow car with an SL2 front bumper at Shaks:https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/5404770.
The 2008 orange car at Reiss James :https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=used-cars&Distance=2147483647&M=391&Page=2&Postcode=u.k.yv.q.p.zh8jls_.ws.b.m633o.b.ac.t0.mpa.e.ie.b.rhqnjd.q3.j.p.g.h.y3v.f.bmc.myll.yi.mq.isr.u&SortOptions=NewestWithImages.

That doesn't leave many to choose from and no LHD cars found advertised either.







AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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At those sort of prices I expect the cars are with their long term owners and they have little desire to sell.

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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David_T said:
jamesaevans said:
What are everyone's thought on the relative merits of the 4 Mk1 SLs currently for sale?


Assuming that are all in good/similar condition the black car looks to be the best value. But is the unpopular colour the reason for this cars cheaper price even given the lower mileage of the 4 cars currently for sale?

James
Six months on, an update as at today, 8th June:
The white 2008 car above was listed as sold by 24/04/21 (at a subsequently listed higher advertised price.)
The black 2008 car above is no longer listed on Top Gears website or listed on Pistonheads or Autotrader.
The grey 2007 car above is no longer listed on VVS website or listed on Pistonheads or Autotrader.

RHD cars currently advertised:
The grey 2009 ex Eric Clapton car pictured above at SuperCar Rooms.
The 2008 black car 26,000 miles car on Simon Furlongers website: https://simonfurlonger.co.uk/cars/show.php?id=1163...
Also the following which there have been other posts on:
The 2007 grey car not currently on Pistonheads or Autotrader but still listed on Motorhub's website:https://www.motor-hub.co.uk/used-cars/lamborghini-gallardo-5-0-v10-superleggera-4wd-2dr-keighley-201809130467691.
The personalised 2008 yellow car with an SL2 front bumper at Shaks:https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/5404770.
The 2008 orange car at Reiss James :https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=used-cars&Distance=2147483647&M=391&Page=2&Postcode=u.k.yv.q.p.zh8jls_.ws.b.m633o.b.ac.t0.mpa.e.ie.b.rhqnjd.q3.j.p.g.h.y3v.f.bmc.myll.yi.mq.isr.u&SortOptions=NewestWithImages.

That doesn't leave many to choose from and no LHD cars found advertised either.
of the last three on your list of five :

3. research the dealer
4. research the dealer. for me, the "personalisation" would need to be expensively reversed
5. this is the "knockhill" car: reference the previous page in this thread

hth smile