Pulled by the police for no front number plate

Pulled by the police for no front number plate

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WCZ

9,569 posts

175 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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willy wombat said:
I just don’t understand why some people are so keen to not have a front number plate. Why give the police a reason to stop you?
ruins the look on certain cars that weren't designed with it in mind, also it's rare to get pulled over for it and most owners can afford the 1 ticket a year

Freakuk

2,282 posts

132 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Not quite the same but riding bikes I stick to the standard plate now, stops an obligatory pull by the police, then the subsequent inspections.. exhaust, tyres, visor etc.

Never understood why supercar owners think they're above the law.

Zetec-S

4,906 posts

74 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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WCZ said:
ruins the look on certain cars that weren't designed with it in mind, also it's rare to get pulled over for it and most owners can afford the 1 ticket a year
Poor show by the designers really - it's no secret that cars are supposed to have a front number plate. Yes, the rules vary from country to country, but surely you design the car with that in mind.

Punishment really should be withdrawing the entitlement to use that plate. Either that or nailing one to the front bumper smash

WonkeyDonkey

1,962 posts

84 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Freakuk said:
Not quite the same but riding bikes I stick to the standard plate now, stops an obligatory pull by the police, then the subsequent inspections.. exhaust, tyres, visor etc.

Never understood why supercar owners think they're above the law.
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?

Taffy66

5,508 posts

83 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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PisstakeHeads is a far better name for these forums.. Strange what being exiled from society for 18 months does to ones empathy towards our fellow human beings.

Fezzamania

220 posts

16 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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WonkeyDonkey said:
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?
Would you bother to tax and insure it ? yikes

r o n n i e

298 posts

157 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Fezzamania said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?
Would you bother to tax and insure it ? yikes
No front plate = £100 NIP, no points and small change for a lot of supercar owners.

No insurance = unknown financial risk in event of accident so I don’t think the 2 are comparable.


h0b0

6,537 posts

177 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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WonkeyDonkey said:
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?
Things may be different here in the US to the UK, but the attitude test starts before the pull. For the most part, the police will not pull you over for no front plate on a nice car. But, if two similar cars drive passed the police at 20mph over, one is going to get stopped and the other probably isn't.

That is why I asked the dealer to put a front plate on.

willy wombat

715 posts

129 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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h0b0 is making the point I was trying to make but doing it better. It’s not the £100 fine that would bother me but winding up the police in the first place. I’ve tended to find that if you’re polite and reasonable they treat you that way back so why piss them off by not having a front plate?

paralla

3,104 posts

116 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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willy wombat said:
h0b0 is making the point I was trying to make but doing it better. It’s not the £100 fine that would bother me but winding up the police in the first place. I’ve tended to find that if you’re polite and reasonable they treat you that way back so why piss them off by not having a front plate?
My experience of 4000km over three years with no front plate (in and around London) is that the police aren't pissed off off or wound up in the slightest. I never got pulled over once.

NMNeil

4,435 posts

31 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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WonkeyDonkey said:
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?
Don't forget the towing and impound fees.
https://www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/ferrari-seized-an...
But going back to the original question. Why would you need to buy a bracket for a car that must have passed the UK type approval requirements before it was sold?

WCZ

9,569 posts

175 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Freakuk said:
Never understood why supercar owners think they're above the law.
not above every law, if you don't have insurance you'll get pulled over as much as anyone if not more but yes, police aren't that bothered about not having a front plate on a supercar as oppose to a 320d or something which seems suspicious when it doesn't have one.

Ferruccio

1,792 posts

100 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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r o n n i e said:
Fezzamania said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?
Would you bother to tax and insure it ? yikes
No front plate = £100 NIP, no points and small change for a lot of supercar owners.

No insurance = unknown financial risk in event of accident so I don’t think the 2 are comparable.
Not insuring is a criminal offence.

r o n n i e

298 posts

157 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Ferruccio said:
r o n n i e said:
Fezzamania said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
Laws that only attract fines are only there to keep the poor under control.

If I had the money to run a Lamborghini I'd probably run it without a front plate. Maybe pay £300 a year in fines?
Would you bother to tax and insure it ? yikes
No front plate = £100 NIP, no points and small change for a lot of supercar owners.

No insurance = unknown financial risk in event of accident so I don’t think the 2 are comparable.
Not insuring is a criminal offence.
Agreed.

Fast Eddie

351 posts

226 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Obarks said:
Hi guys,

I am looking for front number plate solutions for my Huracan Performante after being pulled over by the police and given a NIP.

I have seen a solution on a post on pistonheads but it doesn't say where the bracket is from. Anybody any ideas?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...

I am not keen on the italian supercar solutions as it sits very low on the car.

Also, are we allowed to run a smaller front number plate?

Thanks for any help smile
My Perf came with a bracket but I had a smaller plate made up by www.pimpmyplate.com
Never been stopped.
I always think that a Lamborghini is a 'come and catch me' call to the BiB so why antagonise them?
Generally, they are decent people doing their job imo.

DrDaveWatford

111 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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NMNeil said:
Don't forget the towing and impound fees.
https://www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/ferrari-seized-an...
But going back to the original question. Why would you need to buy a bracket for a car that must have passed the UK type approval requirements before it was sold?
The Ferrari in that story had no insurance, and hence the tow.....

The Huracan Performante doesn't have a suitable vertical surface at the front upon which to mount a plate, which is why this question comes up repeatedly. When I bought mine the dealership gave me a bracket and left it up to me to either lash the bracket onto the car with gaffer tape(!) or drill holes in the car for a more robust attachment. It's hardly surprising that neither of these options are attractive to owners.... I'm aware that some owners are happy to risk an occasional £100 fine and don't bother with a plate at all, but the dealership also informed me that many owners choose to stick the plate horizontally onto the front 'bumper'/diffuser; given that the relevant UK legislation "requires the plate to be fixed vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable" I guess it's down to the discretion of the Police Officer to decide if you're making an effort to comply.

wickhamaj

55 posts

83 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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I do have a grudging respect for the Italians, when you know the law will never require a larger front plate as it would ruin the look of some of their most beautiful designs. They just wouldn't...

Drl22

648 posts

46 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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DrDaveWatford said:
The Ferrari in that story had no insurance, and hence the tow.....

The Huracan Performante doesn't have a suitable vertical surface at the front upon which to mount a plate, which is why this question comes up repeatedly .
Absolute rubbish just google “no drill license plate performante.”

I used to be in your terrible camp of excuses but just can’t be bothered with the hassle anymore.

NMNeil

4,435 posts

31 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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DrDaveWatford said:
The Huracan Performante doesn't have a suitable vertical surface at the front upon which to mount a plate, which is why this question comes up repeatedly.
And without a front number plate it will automatically fail it's MOT test.

Tye Green

360 posts

90 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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slightly off the focus of the thread title but: if its £100 fine for having no front plate or an otherwise non-compliant plate, is it also £100 for a complelety incorrect plate?

e.g. If my name's Jon could i just stick JON1 (assuming no other car usually carries that plate) on my ford fiesta which usually bears a typical 2010 plate and pay the £100 as that would be much cheaper than buying the JON1 plate?