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[pquinn]

The other funny bit is that even the most anoraky of 'motoring communities' with 'engaged car enthusiasts' are most active on the bits that aren't really about cars. That's true of how most boards and forums tend to be. Or is Pistonheads forums really seen as just General Gassing, the Lounge and a few bits and bobs of token 'motoring' elsewhere?

I might want to talk about cars sometimes, though personally I'm more interested in owning and using unless there's something specific to talk about. Been there, done that, modded on a site or two, got over it. The other discussions are more engaging.

It's also notable that while this might fix some issues it definitely won't hit some of the really prolific (bulletproof) posters who contribute to making NP&E the joyful place it can be on certain subjects...

[MesoForm]

Levin said:

Are there?! My contributions to NP&E are minimal at best, but surely it would be a contender for PH's largest forum? This could represent a massive change.

On the full webpage (ie. not mobile) you can see the forum counts - General Gassing is top with 7.8 million, then NP&E (3.6 million), the Lounge (3.2 million)

[vaud]

pquinn said:

The other funny bit is that even the most anoraky of 'motoring communities' with 'engaged car enthusiasts' are most active on the bits that aren't really about cars. That's true of how most boards and forums tend to be. Or is Pistonheads forums really seen as just General Gassing, the Lounge and a few bits and bobs of token 'motoring' elsewhere?

I might want to talk about cars sometimes, though personally I'm more interested in owning and using unless there's something specific to talk about. Been there, done that, modded on a site or two, got over it. The other discussions are more engaging.

It's also notable that while this might fix some issues it definitely won't hit some of the really prolific (bulletproof) posters who contribute to making NP&E the joyful place it can be on certain subjects...

PH is mumsnet for (mostly) men.

[Pica-Pica]

vaud said:

PH is mumsnet for (mostly) men.

No, no, no. It’s worse than that!

[pquinn]

Pica-Pica said:

vaud said:

PH is mumsnet for (mostly) men.

No, no, no. It’s worse than that!

Well whatever it is pretending it's a motoring forum full of engaged enthusiasts is a bit optimistic - that sounds more like the branding a Vectra fan site would aim for!

[Gerradi]

Zumbruk said:

Seems OK to me. There are some deeply unpleasant people in NP&E, hopefully this will get rid of some of them.

...& possibly mentally ill by the look of the awful posts...

[valiant]

Sensible decision and long overdue.

Well done (genuinely)

[lemmingjames]

Roderick Spode said:

...i rarely post anywhere else on PH, so I for one will be unable to post further on NP&E unless I make an arbitrary 1,000 posts elsewhere on the forums....

You've been here for 25 months and have over 1700 posts to your name, so why wouldn't you be able to post?

[lemmingjames]

On another note, was it here or somewhere else I saw linked to a podcast about bots and twitter, how ai has got so advanced that 2 bots where having full blown argument with each other. Or how there's groups on Facebook that's made up of 95% bots and the rest humans causing massive echo chambers.

Does make you wonder how many bots are on here though. Joya of anonymous forums I guess

[vaud]

lemmingjames said:

Does make you wonder how many bots are on here though. Joya of anonymous forums I guess

There are some, they seem to be advertising bots from what I have seen and they are removed quickly.

[anonymous-user]

lemmingjames said:

Roderick Spode said:

...i rarely post anywhere else on PH, so I for one will be unable to post further on NP&E unless I make an arbitrary 1,000 posts elsewhere on the forums....

You've been here for 25 months and have over 1700 posts to your name, so why wouldn't you be able to post?

The new rule is 12 months plus 1000 posts in the motoring forums.

The question is how many of Roderick’s 1700 posts are in the motoring forums. It seems that he may know the answer to that.

[lemmingjames]

vaud said:

There are some, they seem to be advertising bots from what I have seen and they are removed quickly.

Yeah, I've seen those but it wouldn't surprise me if there isn't bots on here being 'argumentative'.

An alternative option would be to ban the over 60s from npe, do wonder if the forum would be quieter or have an over 60s only section so old men can shout at clouds/each other

[anonymous-user]

MrMan001 said:

Roderick Spode said:

When is it to be implemented?

It's been done already.

Not sure that is right. Or if it is, then not sure it’s working properly.

[Roderick Spode]

BlackWidow13 said:

lemmingjames said:

Roderick Spode said:

...i rarely post anywhere else on PH, so I for one will be unable to post further on NP&E unless I make an arbitrary 1,000 posts elsewhere on the forums....

You've been here for 25 months and have over 1700 posts to your name, so why wouldn't you be able to post?

The new rule is 12 months plus 1000 posts in the motoring forums.

The question is how many of Roderick’s 1700 posts are in the motoring forums. It seems that he may know the answer to that.

I've interpreted the new rules as you have Black Widow - that is 1,000 posts not in NP&E, and a member for 12 months. Of my 1,700 posts I'd tentatively suggest perhaps less than a hundred or so might be outwith NP&E. I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing - I'm on other forums where there is a Lounge / Coffee Bar type arrangement where people discuss similar topics to NP&E, and those areas almost inevitably are the most posted with the highest traffic. Such topics affect daily life, so it's no surprise they attract quite a bit of interest.

Anyway, at present I'm still able to post and comment in NP&E, so maybe the rules mean 1,000 general posts? To weed out the prolific trolls with their repeated new accounts?

[B'stard Child]

Roderick Spode said:

BlackWidow13 said:

lemmingjames said:

Roderick Spode said:

...i rarely post anywhere else on PH, so I for one will be unable to post further on NP&E unless I make an arbitrary 1,000 posts elsewhere on the forums....

You've been here for 25 months and have over 1700 posts to your name, so why wouldn't you be able to post?

The new rule is 12 months plus 1000 posts in the motoring forums.

The question is how many of Roderick’s 1700 posts are in the motoring forums. It seems that he may know the answer to that.

I've interpreted the new rules as you have Black Widow - that is 1,000 posts not in NP&E, and a member for 12 months. Of my 1,700 posts I'd tentatively suggest perhaps less than a hundred or so might be outwith NP&E. I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing - I'm on other forums where there is a Lounge / Coffee Bar type arrangement where people discuss similar topics to NP&E, and those areas almost inevitably are the most posted with the highest traffic. Such topics affect daily life, so it's no surprise they attract quite a bit of interest.

Anyway, at present I'm still able to post and comment in NP&E, so maybe the rules mean 1,000 general posts? To weed out the prolific trolls with their repeated new accounts?

I understood it to mean

New member 12 mths after joining would have had to posted 1000 posts in non NP&E sections to be able to post in NP&E

Not sure the PH architecture is clever enough to decide if you have met target 1000 posts in non NP&E???

So if you meet criteria of "more than 12 mths" as a member on here and "more than 1000 posts" at rule implementation today then you can continue to post in NP&E

[GranpaB]

It is a shame as it really does spoil the forum. I understand it is mainly a car forum but if that is the case, it seems odd that there are so many sub non motoring forums to post in.

I enjoyed taking part in some of the MPE threads but alas i now cannot.

[Donbot]

Gadgetmac will be upset.

[williamp]

Pica-Pica said:

vaud said:

PH is mumsnet for (mostly) men.

No, no, no. It’s worse than that!

I wish it could be. There is a healthy debate about womens health and relationships on mumsnet which isnt on here..

..but then again, I would not be comfortable talking about my personal issues online..

[hiccy18]

I can understand the time limit, and I can understand having some sort of quanitity limit, but 1000 posts seems like an arbitrary figure that many engaged posters will not hit for possibly several years. It's like being stood on the naughty step after some big boys did it and ran away, repeatedly.

Mind you, I had to write this post to realise I actually qualify, go me! I did think I had about half that many posts though.

[carinatauk]

1000 posts in a motoring forum is a lot.

I realise that some post a lot in the NP&E forum but I hardly post, unless I have a question or comment, but do take interest in a lot that is posted. It seems that I will be one of those unable to post in NP&E even though I have been a registered member for eons.