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thebraketester

14,620 posts

144 months

Monday 1st July
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What have the dev team done since March? Have they even looked at the problem?

Dave.

7,473 posts

259 months

Monday 1st July
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TonyRPH said:
I'll bear that in mind, as I reported several this morning, but tried to ensure I wasn't reporting posts from the same user.

But if one report will suffice, that's what I shall do in the future.

For what it's worth - the "anti flooding system" makes it difficult to go back and reply with reported as it makes you wait several seconds - the same "anti flooding system" which doesn't prevent spammers from posting multiple posts from different accounts in quick succession.

Kind of makes the anti flooding system pointless, not so??
hehe

Biggles Flies Undone

22 posts

7 months

Monday 1st July
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Super Sonic said:
Why repost the numbers? If just one persone phones, it encourages the scammers. Why help them?
I'm not reposting the numbers, but the fact that the entire front page is filled with these scammers. At that moment, it seemed that no-one was aware or dealing with it, so it was a visual point to hopefully show the extent of the problem.

Again, why shoot the messenger who is simply trying to alert the right people to a problem to try and stop the forum looking dreadful?

Super Sonic

6,834 posts

60 months

Monday 1st July
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Biggles Flies Undone said:
Super Sonic said:
Why repost the numbers? If just one persone phones, it encourages the scammers. Why help them?
I'm not reposting the numbers, but the fact that the entire front page is filled with these scammers. At that moment, it seemed that no-one was aware or dealing with it, so it was a visual point to hopefully show the extent of the problem.

Again, why shoot the messenger who is simply trying to alert the right people to a problem to try and stop the forum looking dreadful?
Posting an image of the page with the numbers on is reposting the numbers. You only need to report the post.
Anyway, thanks for seeing sense and deleting your post.

Biggles Flies Undone

22 posts

7 months

Monday 1st July
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Super Sonic said:
Biggles Flies Undone said:
Super Sonic said:
Why repost the numbers? If just one persone phones, it encourages the scammers. Why help them?
I'm not reposting the numbers, but the fact that the entire front page is filled with these scammers. At that moment, it seemed that no-one was aware or dealing with it, so it was a visual point to hopefully show the extent of the problem.

Again, why shoot the messenger who is simply trying to alert the right people to a problem to try and stop the forum looking dreadful?
Posting an image of the page with the numbers on is reposting the numbers. You only need to report the post.
Anyway, thanks for seeing sense and deleting your post.
I had reported them and they were still flooding in several minutes later.

B'stard Child

29,053 posts

252 months

Monday 1st July
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Big Al. said:
RustyMX5 said:
If you're not already, please reply to them with something and then report so that the mods don't get inundated with responses for each thread.
You really don't need to do any of that, just send in ONE report only regardless of the number of threads you see raised.
It took me about 10 minutes to kill of all the spammers and remove all their threads, it then took me a further 10 minutes to get rid of all the masses of reports that come in!

I thank you for all your efforts but you really are wasting your time reporting that many threads.
OK So this is a change to previous guidance

Previously

One "report" per spammer user ID was all that was required

Then respond to the threads either saying reported (or humorous comment AKA Rusty) that should stop other PH'rs also reporting reducing the clean up needed in the reporting process (which none of us can see)

Now

"Just report one post - maybe put something in the comments to say "Spammers - hundreds of em"

Post up in the threads to say reported to help reduce the level of reports submitted?

Have I got that right

B'stard Child

29,053 posts

252 months

Monday 1st July
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EmailAddress said:
Does it even matter. Any 'guidance' is for the five vaguely interested people in this thread and not going to reach the eyes of the users as a whole.

May as well just leave them to it.
Might not matter to you and that's fine

If we are creating issues for the mods that take longer to resolve than cleaning up the spammers I'm pretty sure the five vaguely interested people would rather not do that.

sunbeam alpine

7,052 posts

194 months

Monday 1st July
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Super Sonic said:
If you haven't, biggles has helpfully reposted the phone numbers.
Helpfully for the scammers.
So that's why there are so many ejaculations in the Biggles books. smile

Big Al.

69,082 posts

264 months

Monday 1st July
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B'stard Child said:
OK So this is a change to previous guidance

Previously

One "report" per spammer user ID was all that was required

Then respond to the threads either saying reported (or humorous comment AKA Rusty) that should stop other PH'rs also reporting reducing the clean up needed in the reporting process (which none of us can see)

Now

"Just report one post - maybe put something in the comments to say "Spammers - hundreds of em"

Post up in the threads to say reported to help reduce the level of reports submitted?

Have I got that right
I'm not trying to be difficult here, I'm just saying that as soon as we see "A" single report come in we will act on it "if we're around/".

All I'm trying to do is to stop you wasting your time reporting every thread.

This is how I works for me, when I come back to my lappy I check the PH members dump (new registration area. Scan that for members who have just signed up and see if any have made a post or raised a thread, check them out to see what they have posted etc. I can see instantly from the members page how many threads/posts each member has just posted.
The limit of posts/threads a noobie can post in the first 24 hours is 5, so lots of new members making 2-5 posts indicates a possible spammers I'll check and ban all those that fall into this category deleting all their posts.
I'll them go into the Mods forum and check on the number of reports that have come in this morning for instance there was about 40, I'll reply to a couple and close and then delete the rest as it just clutters up the forum.

So to sum up we only really need one report from one spammer, not one report for each thread he's raised.

Hope that clarifies and again thanks for all your help. smile


Fore Left

1,481 posts

188 months

Monday 1st July
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Big Al. said:
I'm not trying to be difficult here, I'm just saying that as soon as we see "A" single report come in we will act on it "if we're around/".

All I'm trying to do is to stop you wasting your time reporting every thread.

This is how I works for me, when I come back to my lappy I check the PH members dump (new registration area. Scan that for members who have just signed up and see if any have made a post or raised a thread, check them out to see what they have posted etc. I can see instantly from the members page how many threads/posts each member has just posted.
The limit of posts/threads a noobie can post in the first 24 hours is 5, so lots of new members making 2-5 posts indicates a possible spammers I'll check and ban all those that fall into this category deleting all their posts.
I'll them go into the Mods forum and check on the number of reports that have come in this morning for instance there was about 40, I'll reply to a couple and close and then delete the rest as it just clutters up the forum.

So to sum up we only really need one report from one spammer, not one report for each thread he's raised.

Hope that clarifies and again thanks for all your help. smile
Thank you for your tireless efforts to remove these posts.

In reality however, PistonHeads management is exploiting your goodwill and willingness to do this and while you and other mods continue to do so they have no incentive to fix the problem. As many people, me included, have highlighted, it's relatively trivial - regardless of how archaic the codebase is - to implement something in code to stop the majority of the posts.

B'stard Child

29,053 posts

252 months

Monday 1st July
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Big Al. said:
B'stard Child said:
OK So this is a change to previous guidance

Previously

One "report" per spammer user ID was all that was required

Then respond to the threads either saying reported (or humorous comment AKA Rusty) that should stop other PH'rs also reporting reducing the clean up needed in the reporting process (which none of us can see)

Now

"Just report one post - maybe put something in the comments to say "Spammers - hundreds of em"

Post up in the threads to say reported to help reduce the level of reports submitted?

Have I got that right
I'm not trying to be difficult here, I'm just saying that as soon as we see "A" single report come in we will act on it "if we're around/".

All I'm trying to do is to stop you wasting your time reporting every thread.

This is how I works for me, when I come back to my lappy I check the PH members dump (new registration area. Scan that for members who have just signed up and see if any have made a post or raised a thread, check them out to see what they have posted etc. I can see instantly from the members page how many threads/posts each member has just posted.
The limit of posts/threads a noobie can post in the first 24 hours is 5, so lots of new members making 2-5 posts indicates a possible spammers I'll check and ban all those that fall into this category deleting all their posts.
I'll them go into the Mods forum and check on the number of reports that have come in this morning for instance there was about 40, I'll reply to a couple and close and then delete the rest as it just clutters up the forum.

So to sum up we only really need one report from one spammer, not one report for each thread he's raised.

Hope that clarifies and again thanks for all your help. smile
Yep

Clear to me - as per previously laid down guidelines

One "report" post per spammer user ID

Then "if we have the time respond to the other threads from that spammer either saying "reported" (or humorous comment AKA Rusty)

That should stop other PH'rs duplicate reporting reducing the clean up needed in the reporting process


The Rotrex Kid

31,166 posts

166 months

Monday 1st July
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Fore Left said:
Big Al. said:
I'm not trying to be difficult here, I'm just saying that as soon as we see "A" single report come in we will act on it "if we're around/".

All I'm trying to do is to stop you wasting your time reporting every thread.

This is how I works for me, when I come back to my lappy I check the PH members dump (new registration area. Scan that for members who have just signed up and see if any have made a post or raised a thread, check them out to see what they have posted etc. I can see instantly from the members page how many threads/posts each member has just posted.
The limit of posts/threads a noobie can post in the first 24 hours is 5, so lots of new members making 2-5 posts indicates a possible spammers I'll check and ban all those that fall into this category deleting all their posts.
I'll them go into the Mods forum and check on the number of reports that have come in this morning for instance there was about 40, I'll reply to a couple and close and then delete the rest as it just clutters up the forum.

So to sum up we only really need one report from one spammer, not one report for each thread he's raised.

Hope that clarifies and again thanks for all your help. smile
Thank you for your tireless efforts to remove these posts.

In reality however, PistonHeads management is exploiting your goodwill and willingness to do this and while you and other mods continue to do so they have no incentive to fix the problem. As many people, me included, have highlighted, it's relatively trivial - regardless of how archaic the codebase is - to implement something in code to stop the majority of the posts.
With due respect, you don’t know what is happening or the hoops being jumped through. There is no exploitation, we help because we want to, if we didn’t, we can just say ‘thanks, but no thanks’

I personally quite enjoy bashing a spammer. Makes me feel like I’ve achieved something that day hehe

TonyRPH

13,099 posts

174 months

Monday 1st July
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Fore Left said:
Thank you for your tireless efforts to remove these posts.

In reality however, PistonHeads management is exploiting your goodwill and willingness to do this and while you and other mods continue to do so they have no incentive to fix the problem. As many people, me included, have highlighted, it's relatively trivial - regardless of how archaic the codebase is - to implement something in code to stop the majority of the posts.
This is something I don't understand either. The forum software is somewhat outdated, and various (major) bugs have been reported by PH'er over the years.

And yet all they do is keep patching it with band aid, and intrusive software (being unable to post anything remotely resembling SQL statements for example and also the anti flood system, another pointless addition).


B'stard Child said:
Yep

Clear to me - as per previously laid down guidelines

One "report" post per spammer user ID

Then "if we have the time respond to the other threads from that spammer either saying "reported" (or humorous comment AKA Rusty)

That should stop other PH'rs duplicate reporting reducing the clean up needed in the reporting process
The one report per spammer was precisely what I did this morning, along with trying to mark the post as reported (but the anti flood system made that difficult as I was forced to wait around 10 seconds or so before I could post after reporting).



Fore Left

1,481 posts

188 months

Monday 1st July
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The Rotrex Kid said:
With due respect, you don’t know what is happening or the hoops being jumped through.
I don't but I do know there hasn't been a single post on this thread from a PH person.

The Rotrex Kid said:
I personally quite enjoy bashing a spammer. Makes me feel like I’ve achieved something that day hehe
Again, thanks for doing it. I'm happy that you're happy smile

Jordie Barretts sock

5,925 posts

25 months

Monday 1st July
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EmailAddress said:
Big Al, Scrump, and Ben are more than Mods.

They're our friends we've made along the way.


(Apologies to anyone I missed)
Jeez, pass me a bucket! biggrin

Monkeylegend

27,067 posts

237 months

Monday 1st July
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Fore Left said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
With due respect, you don’t know what is happening or the hoops being jumped through.
I don't but I do know there hasn't been a single post on this thread from a PH person.

The Rotrex Kid said:
I personally quite enjoy bashing a spammer. Makes me feel like I’ve achieved something that day hehe
Again, thanks for doing it. I'm happy that you're happy smile
I am sure I read a post from Ben saying it as being looked into and he would update in due course once he had checked out all the numbers were genuine.

Ignore the last little bit hehe

loudlashadjuster

5,412 posts

190 months

Monday 1st July
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If the cleanup effort on the part of the mods is greater then the spam removal itself, then surely there’s a cast-iron case for just turning this on its head and doing what many have suggested and putting all new accounts into an approval queue.

The mods’ still have to put in the graft, but not one spam post makes it through and we don’t need to report anything.

There simply cannot be that many genuine new accounts who might need to wait 10-30 mins before posting to make any difference.

sunbeam alpine

7,052 posts

194 months

Monday 1st July
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The Rotrex Kid said:
I personally quite enjoy bashing a spammer. hehe
I SO hope that isn't a euphemism...

P.S. Everyone moaning about this - we have a (largely) great community which offers help, advice and much more.

And it's free. Let's not moan.

Maybe buy a few new mirrors for the mod's scooters? nuts

Mercdriver

2,456 posts

39 months

Monday 1st July
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+1

Kinky

39,779 posts

275 months

Monday 1st July
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sunbeam alpine said:
Maybe buy a few new mirrors for the mod's scooters? nuts
I've still got some room to add some yes


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