1st Lambo - UK Purchase - Need all experienced owners help

1st Lambo - UK Purchase - Need all experienced owners help

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W4NTED

700 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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tigertiger12 said:
RagingBulls said:
tigertiger12 said:
RagingBulls said:
If you really want one now is the time to buy, Come March prices will be back in the £250k starting point. The Aventador S also blows all the other cars you have mentioned out of the water - there is no comparison at all. I suggest you go and drive them all and you'll see what I mean. The AVS is an "experience" and even just looking at it parked in the drive or garage arouses emotions not found in any other car IMHO. The single clutch experience just adds to the value of owning a real piece of Italian history with proper character. A car which you control and not a computer!

Also don't rule out cars with Alcantara. My first one was leather and my current one has the quilted colour stitched alcantara - the alcantara makes the car feel extremely special over one that has leather IMHO! They last extremely well, the alcantara game has moved on a lot and not like the older cars where they wear down like towels do!

Edited by RagingBulls on Thursday 28th December 18:32
Why would prices go back up in March? Prices are going down, not much on these cars but there is some more room for adjustment. I get that winter will be over and summer on the way but still don't see prices going up. I'm happy to take that risk and see, in the meantime the interest will also help balance out any price increase.
I'm happy to take my time and see more cars become available. I'm happy to compromise on some items but not on things such as the wheels and leather steering wheel.
If something really nice comes available in the meantime I will go for it, but the one I really like is not sold by a main dealer and does not have the wheels I like. In any case I would not want an alcantara steering wheel but may compromise on the seats. Though someone mentioned it is actually suede which is interesting, still I prefer leather. I will do this in my own time, thanks. I also need to change the doors on my garage in order to get it in! Isn't a big job, and should be able to get this done by the end of Feb.
Because the supercar market is fked every December! Some people dont want to store the car and pay 6 months of repayments so many cars hit the market in the winter and prices drop. As summer kicks in stocks evaporate fast and prices creep back up - happens every year. Anyway Ive given you the advice I had to as an owner of an LP740-4 so will leave you to it. Look forward to the custard photos soon ;-)
Thanks for the clarification, but is not 100% accurate, like people buy cars just for summer and on finance? or want to sell it for less in winter.
I am sure there is the odd person that does this but I am not buying on finance which should be obvious, so this would not apply to me. It also means there would be less cars so less choice for me.
I bought 1 supercar on finance paid it in 5 years (no balloon), kept it for 10 and just saved, then bought a BMW for the mrs paid 2 grand and yes it was her choice, now I dont buy cars on finance. it's actually very easy and if you pay fianace then you can afford to do it but you cant afford to wait.

People who claim fianace is better simply cannot afford to buy the car outright, it actually makes no sense, to get more than £250 finance on a car is not easy, you need to have assets or provide a personal guarantee so is possible. It only really makes sense if you have more than 20 times the value of the car in the bank earning interest that covers your repayment. most people are not in this position and no one likes to admit they cannot afford a car that they drive. Balloon finance was created to prevent people from paying for the car in full, most dont have the lump sum at the end so they offer you much less for your car claiming they need to change a bunch of parts, but can get you in a new car, and those people dont have much choice at all as far as they are concerned. They will even give you more of a discount than I could get paying for the car outright because they make so much from the finance.

I am also not worried about the price difference from summer to winter as I don't think it is that great and as you say happens every year, the situation since covid has been different and cars have dropped last year already. I would rather pay more for the car in the spec I want. The 'S' is available from £200 but I would prefer a newer model with as long a warranty as I can get. in fact everything I have said makes perfect sense yet most don't want to believe. it's brilliant. This thread is a keeper. It's a clear reminder of the jealousy I will experience, but i get it anyway and dont even have a lambo.

When many of you respond you do not think it through fully. At the same time there are more cars available after winter so it would be easier for me to find one that suits me colour, wheels, spec etc. It is exactly the same as insulting someone from the start, instead of just answering what you can and asking to post pics when the car comes and leave it at that. I would have posted pics and even with the roofbox which for me is important, that frunk is tiny even for a weekend away.

You are well aware that no one that is insulted would post pics of their car when they buy it. This is certainly not the first time you have done this.
Jeez, I genuinely tried to help this kid but after this response Im 100% sure this is a kid on xmas holidays going back to school end of this week biggrin


Edited by W4NTED on Wednesday 3rd January 13:26

Tyrell Corp

256 posts

23 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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"People who claim fianace is better simply cannot afford to buy the car outright, it actually makes no sense, to get more than £250 finance on a car is not easy, you need to have assets or provide a personal guarantee so is possible. It only really makes sense if you have more than 20 times the value of the car in the bank earning interest that covers your repayment. most people are not in this position and no one likes to admit they cannot afford a car that they drive..."


Leave 5 million in bank account then go out and buy Lambo on finance? How would it 'make sense' to borrow at double the rate of your savings interest ?

Serious question maybe for an accountant, I realise business assets often get leased for tax reasons.

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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W4NTED said:
Jeez, I genuinely tried to help this kid but after this response Im 100% sure this is a kid on xmas holidays going back to school end of this week biggrin


Edited by W4NTED on Wednesday 3rd January 13:26
you calling any of this help is where your problem is.

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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Tyrell Corp said:
"People who claim fianace is better simply cannot afford to buy the car outright, it actually makes no sense, to get more than £250 finance on a car is not easy, you need to have assets or provide a personal guarantee so is possible. It only really makes sense if you have more than 20 times the value of the car in the bank earning interest that covers your repayment. most people are not in this position and no one likes to admit they cannot afford a car that they drive..."


Leave 5 million in bank account then go out and buy Lambo on finance? How would it 'make sense' to borrow at double the rate of your savings interest ?

Serious question maybe for an accountant, I realise business assets often get leased for tax reasons.
interestingly it does make sense, if you cant see it then this is why you have this attitude and cannot afford a lambo.
TP321 has a cheapa aventador, he has a thread about his clutch, read that, ask him if he is a multi millionaire.
If the interest you earn covers your loan's and you can write off the amounts say in a company then it does make sense.
Some people have a lot more than £5mill in the bank.
In any case if the amount you earn in interest covers any loan repayments it does make sense. i'm yet to get to that level and never will.
There is nothing that you have said worth anything.

jasonrobertson86

994 posts

7 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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When are you looking to purchase tiger?

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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Tyrell Corp said:
TT12 I can't be bothered to quote any more of your garbage, but I assure you that rare vehicles often do change hands not openly advertised, privacy for the vendor also allows the buyer(s) to keep the price paid confidential.

Do you seriously think that every super exotic sold by a dealer gets automatically listed on the open market first, complete with a price on the windscreen ?

Property at the top end of the market often gets sold unadvertised, the super rich don't want a 'for sale' board on their house and all the pics on rightmove, but if you have genuine 30 million plus to drop then you can find out what is for sale.

From my own limited experience here, buying a supercar isn't always easy, even when you have the cash waiting.

Even if you are serious here I don't think you'll be taken seriously.



as if you would know. if dealers were not confidential they would not get business.
These people certainly are not sitting on this forum or any other, especially the way people jump on someone wanting to buy am aventador.
you think they are going to sit on a forum and 'select' people then PM them to sell them a supercar. that is incredible stupidity, please don't change.
you people lie so much then wonder why life hasn't worked out for you with your attitude.











Kerniki

2,068 posts

24 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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tigertiger12 said:
as if you would know. if dealers were not confidential they would not get business.
These people certainly are not sitting on this forum or any other, especially the way people jump on someone wanting to buy am aventador.
you think they are going to sit on a forum and 'select' people then PM them to sell them a supercar. that is incredible stupidity, please don't change.
you people lie so much then wonder why life hasn't worked out for you with your attitude.
Had to quote that one hehe

glad you havent given up tiger, was a bit worried they’d scared you off for a minute thumbup

TP321

1,483 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th January
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tigertiger12 said:
Wrong, again. You want to be massaged for info, think you know it all because you claim to own an aventador but cant even afford to replace the clutch. Can't read and don't understand anything at all. You must be the poorest aventador owner in the world. The way you maintain your car no one would want to buy it if they knew the truth. Your only contribution was nonsense about a roadster and a roofbox, it was clear from this that you have no idea what you are talking about. The jealousy is so strong everything you do and say is wrong. If you don't have the money to get it fixed from a reputable place and not at the cheapest price then you shouldn't own one.
You are confusing me with someone else. - the clutch on my Aventador S Roadster has never required replacing. The day dreaming is confusing you biggrin

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Thursday 4th January
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TP321 said:
tigertiger12 said:
Wrong, again. You want to be massaged for info, think you know it all because you claim to own an aventador but cant even afford to replace the clutch. Can't read and don't understand anything at all. You must be the poorest aventador owner in the world. The way you maintain your car no one would want to buy it if they knew the truth. Your only contribution was nonsense about a roadster and a roofbox, it was clear from this that you have no idea what you are talking about. The jealousy is so strong everything you do and say is wrong. If you don't have the money to get it fixed from a reputable place and not at the cheapest price then you shouldn't own one.
You are confusing me with someone else. - the clutch on my Aventador S Roadster has never required replacing. The day dreaming is confusing you biggrin
Nope, did this on purpose.
Took you a while as i stated this a couple of times before, your not reading, just commenting nonsense and apparently own an aventador but have both provided little to nothing constructive, even as 'owners', kerniki stated cruise control was not available on early cars but standard or option, then someone else said it is not available. just dont answer or say you dont know. because most dont really know the answers they just want to claim i am lying or provoking something when clearly so many others have. You read it to suit yourself, even saying I wont be taken seriously when i only have this issue here as you did with batman. you dont like my questions but kerniki starts a thread about his clutch asking for recommendations which makes little sense when this info is available on google and am surprised he would not already know when it is expected. I know exactly where i will take my aventador if there are any issues. I wouldn't shop around for price but for professional work and a known place to help resale. I could help you both with recommendations, none are cheap but well known. kerniki even states 'Even though 10k is easy to come by for me' and gives excuses when its an aventador. it's actually easy to do when you have the money and dont mind spending it. im only answering and clearly you are all getting upset so trying to say im upset when most of what people have written is a poor attempt at provoking me. I do not believe you own the cars you claim at all. i now see most are cheapskates and liars. look at the garbage tyrell crap said.
if i dont respond you will say its proof im a liar, if i do, you say im upset (im buying an aventador, im far from upset, this is funny) even if i posted pics you would call me a liar. i hope the aventador handles the twists and turns this well.

jasonrobertson86

994 posts

7 months

Thursday 4th January
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tigertiger12 said:
Nope, did this on purpose.
Took you a while as i stated this a couple of times before, your not reading, just commenting nonsense and apparently own an aventador but have both provided little to nothing constructive, even as 'owners', kerniki stated cruise control was not available on early cars but standard or option, then someone else said it is not available. just dont answer or say you dont know. because most dont really know the answers they just want to claim i am lying or provoking something when clearly so many others have. You read it to suit yourself, even saying I wont be taken seriously when i only have this issue here as you did with batman. you dont like my questions but kerniki starts a thread about his clutch asking for recommendations which makes little sense when this info is available on google and am surprised he would not already know when it is expected. I know exactly where i will take my aventador if there are any issues. I wouldn't shop around for price but for professional work and a known place to help resale. I could help you both with recommendations, none are cheap but well known. kerniki even states 'Even though 10k is easy to come by for me' and gives excuses when its an aventador. it's actually easy to do when you have the money and dont mind spending it. im only answering and clearly you are all getting upset so trying to say im upset when most of what people have written is a poor attempt at provoking me. I do not believe you own the cars you claim at all. i now see most are cheapskates and liars. look at the garbage tyrell crap said.
if i dont respond you will say its proof im a liar, if i do, you say im upset (im buying an aventador, im far from upset, this is funny) even if i posted pics you would call me a liar. i hope the aventador handles the twists and turns this well.
When are you looking to purchase this car?

W4NTED

700 posts

217 months

Thursday 4th January
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When are schools reopening?

lambo666

454 posts

121 months

Thursday 4th January
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This thread needs to be closed / locked.
This is by far the best review of an Aventador S and demonstrates what the car is like/capable of, on the right roads and warmed up properly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25eUYkWoeLY

Kerniki

2,068 posts

24 months

Thursday 4th January
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Wow! roflrofl

You’re a legend, thank you tiger, genuinely smile

I hope these dealers/garages are readying themselves biggrin


Ferruccio

1,838 posts

122 months

Thursday 4th January
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lambo666 said:
This thread needs to be closed / locked.
Exactly right.

This is why I very rarely visit here anymore, despite being a real Pistonhead and lover of Lamborghini.

I cannot believe that people sap their energy, and waste their time, arguing around this garbage.
It’s simply too painful to actually read.

zsdom

878 posts

123 months

Thursday 4th January
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This is quickly becoming one of my favourite threads, can't wait for the custard

TP321

1,483 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th January
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lambo666 said:
This thread needs to be closed / locked.
This is by far the best review of an Aventador S and demonstrates what the car is like/capable of, on the right roads and warmed up properly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25eUYkWoeLY
I cant see Tigertigerlily driving it like this...his/her roof box will come flying off biglaughbiggrin

Tyrell Corp

256 posts

23 months

Thursday 4th January
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Kerniki said:
tigertiger12 said:
as if you would know. if dealers were not confidential they would not get business.
These people certainly are not sitting on this forum or any other, especially the way people jump on someone wanting to buy am aventador.
you think they are going to sit on a forum and 'select' people then PM them to sell them a supercar. that is incredible stupidity, please don't change.
you people lie so much then wonder why life hasn't worked out for you with your attitude.
Had to quote that one hehe

glad you havent given up tiger, was a bit worried they’d scared you off for a minute thumbup
He totally misunderstands much of what is written here as lies then misquotes it.

I was actually defending him and his right to ownership as in it is ok not to be an expert here, comparing top end Rolex bought by rich newbies with little product knowledge for example.

As for customers being 'selected' to buy a car, yes all the time top models reserved only for vip or regulars with an extensive buying history, likewise with Rolex hence the grey market .

Seems like a very rare car to start with even before the spec is decided, could take months just to find one suitable hence reaching out to the trade as a serious buyer and not antagonising other enthusiasts.

This Andrew Tate style ranting about how rich and clever he is not a good look either and comes across as seriously unhinged.

Something that seems to define supercar owners here is articulate and concise postings with strong writing and comprehension skills...












tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Saturday 6th January
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Tyrell Corp said:
Kerniki said:
tigertiger12 said:
as if you would know. if dealers were not confidential they would not get business.
These people certainly are not sitting on this forum or any other, especially the way people jump on someone wanting to buy am aventador.
you think they are going to sit on a forum and 'select' people then PM them to sell them a supercar. that is incredible stupidity, please don't change.
you people lie so much then wonder why life hasn't worked out for you with your attitude.
Had to quote that one hehe

glad you havent given up tiger, was a bit worried they’d scared you off for a minute thumbup
He totally misunderstands much of what is written here as lies then misquotes it.

I was actually defending him and his right to ownership as in it is ok not to be an expert here, comparing top end Rolex bought by rich newbies with little product knowledge for example.

As for customers being 'selected' to buy a car, yes all the time top models reserved only for vip or regulars with an extensive buying history, likewise with Rolex hence the grey market .

Seems like a very rare car to start with even before the spec is decided, could take months just to find one suitable hence reaching out to the trade as a serious buyer and not antagonising other enthusiasts.

This Andrew Tate style ranting about how rich and clever he is not a good look either and comes across as seriously unhinged.

Something that seems to define supercar owners here is articulate and concise postings with strong writing and comprehension skills...

yeah, maybe i dont get you, but a lot of what people have said is utter rubbish.
thanks for the andrew tate compliment, many of you should take note. if this means i'm unhinged what does it say about you?
some people learn they are right about most things which takes time and learning others just think they are alway right when they are wrong.
only in the last 10 years i realised I was more right than wrong.

Interestingly, cars have come down a fair bit in the last 2 weeks alone. I have seen £10k - £30k on quite a few cars and one that was £80k down but that was over a few months. As I said there is some adjustment from the short supply which lead to prices going up to over supply (in some cases) and now prices coming back down. They do seem to be coming back down to what they should be and may come down more over the next few months when the next reg comes out. I'm really happy and excited to see what will happen, some aventadors are down £10k, if they come down another £10k great.

Kerniki

2,068 posts

24 months

Saturday 6th January
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Tyrell Corp said:
Kerniki said:
tigertiger12 said:
as if you would know. if dealers were not confidential they would not get business.
These people certainly are not sitting on this forum or any other, especially the way people jump on someone wanting to buy am aventador.
you think they are going to sit on a forum and 'select' people then PM them to sell them a supercar. that is incredible stupidity, please don't change.
you people lie so much then wonder why life hasn't worked out for you with your attitude.
Had to quote that one hehe

glad you havent given up tiger, was a bit worried they’d scared you off for a minute thumbup
He totally misunderstands much of what is written here as lies then misquotes it.

Something that seems to define supercar owners here is articulate and concise postings with strong writing and comprehension skills...
I was trying to (as you were) cut him some slack due to english obviously not being his first language, its not easy trying to ascertain the tone and nuances of a foreign language when its not your own and english is one of the hardest!

But i think its more than that, if you dont understand then you tread carefully and ask for clarification, you dont jump to wrong conclusions when people are in fact trying to help, and then be rude with your responses because you’re frustrated.

Its most likely he’s just a very angry individual anyway who cant deal with the patience needed to understand the answers to questions he cant get elsewhere in his mother land, wherever that may be.

I think you’re right that most healthy discussions on supercars tend to be around more english literate / educated. (Yes i know my punctuation, spelling a grammar are lazy, thank you peeps smile )

Watching someone trying to communicate while they are that frustrated is very interesting, also quite funny but also a little sad if i’m honest, think i’ve reached the end of my amusement though, starts to border on bullying otherwise, so thread is closed now ,as far as i’m concerned.

Thanks Tiger smile

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Tuesday 9th January
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Kerniki said:
Tyrell Corp said:
Kerniki said:
tigertiger12 said:
as if you would know. if dealers were not confidential they would not get business.
These people certainly are not sitting on this forum or any other, especially the way people jump on someone wanting to buy am aventador.
you think they are going to sit on a forum and 'select' people then PM them to sell them a supercar. that is incredible stupidity, please don't change.
you people lie so much then wonder why life hasn't worked out for you with your attitude.
Had to quote that one hehe

glad you havent given up tiger, was a bit worried they’d scared you off for a minute thumbup
He totally misunderstands much of what is written here as lies then misquotes it.

Something that seems to define supercar owners here is articulate and concise postings with strong writing and comprehension skills...
I was trying to (as you were) cut him some slack due to english obviously not being his first language, its not easy trying to ascertain the tone and nuances of a foreign language when its not your own and english is one of the hardest!

But i think its more than that, if you dont understand then you tread carefully and ask for clarification, you dont jump to wrong conclusions when people are in fact trying to help, and then be rude with your responses because you’re frustrated.

Its most likely he’s just a very angry individual anyway who cant deal with the patience needed to understand the answers to questions he cant get elsewhere in his mother land, wherever that may be.

I think you’re right that most healthy discussions on supercars tend to be around more english literate / educated. (Yes i know my punctuation, spelling a grammar are lazy, thank you peeps smile )

Watching someone trying to communicate while they are that frustrated is very interesting, also quite funny but also a little sad if i’m honest, think i’ve reached the end of my amusement though, starts to border on bullying otherwise, so thread is closed now ,as far as i’m concerned.

Thanks Tiger smile
Not much of what you say actually makes sense. Before you were saying that english is not the first language of TP321 but now you seem to be saying this about me? English is my first language, as you can see most of my spelling is correct. English as a first language does not seem to be the issue when he only needed to read coupe and he has a roadster, so would know the difference between the two.

I'm far from angry despite you repeatedly trying to claim so and failing miserably. I'm buying an aventador so very happy, more so than any car purchase i've made. it is you that are not happy, have made false assumptions and claims repeatedly. As I have not bitten, you are more upset and trying harder to confuse things and make things worse when you have not provided advice or even been right about things you have said. then claim I am bullying when it is not the case at all, quite the opposite.

If you dont get it why continue? Oh, you just want to make things worse for no reason. I do get it then.
You say this thread is closed as far as you are concerned but have said this before. Like i said it is easier to not reply, but you continue to read the thread and reply for an obvious reason. you cannot pretend to be intelliegent and not understand at the same time.
It is clear who is angry when you have to lie and twist things. All I have done is defend myself after you became rude knowing others would do the same.
Most people who have responded dont even own an aventador, even advice from different models is not as relevant as aventador owners.