1st Lambo - UK Purchase - Need all experienced owners help

1st Lambo - UK Purchase - Need all experienced owners help

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tigertiger12

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130 posts

42 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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TP321 said:
Why coupe and not roadster? for the roof box?
Not sure where you are going with this, please elaborate?
I am looking to purchase a coupe and have seen them with a roofbox.
Do you have or have you had an aventador?

tigertiger12

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130 posts

42 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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TP321 said:
andrew said:
mine had 37k at six years, and i don't recall doing either !
did you won it from new and put 37k miles over 6 years? Nothing wrong with that, but it would be a struggle to sell on, even at a much reduced price.
I'm sure it would take longer to sell but also gives the opportunity for others to buy their dream car at a reduced price. 37k miles is still low, just not for this vehicle. If the price is right anything will sell. It would be better to offer less than asking. I have seen it can take time to sell these cars, I guess it depends on a few factors, price being a big one but also the financial climate has an affect. There are a lot less customers for this vehicle. The point is that being a 'track experience' or 'wedding hire' car is pure speculation. There are some people who drive these cars regularly, especially in the US where there are much more of these cars. It really depends on the owners finances. I wish I could drive it so much. Andrew is a lucky guy to be able to have driven his aventador so much. He also has a huge amount of experience. I would have no problem buying a car with 37k miles so far as it is provided with a full history of expenditure and report with warranty etc. At this level cars that are driven regularly often have less problems than those that are not. They 'break' just sitting, on some the gearbox can fall asleep but can simply be woken up by disconnecting the battery and reconnecting it, this happens when the car is not used regularly or has been sitting for a while.

Don't think he 'won' the car either, reckon he bought it!! Can't figure out how this is a typo or how you get to 'won' from 'buy'?

andrew

10,009 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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tigertiger12 said:
TP321 said:
andrew said:
mine had 37k at six years, and i don't recall doing either !
did you won it from new and put 37k miles over 6 years? Nothing wrong with that, but it would be a struggle to sell on, even at a much reduced price.
I'm sure it would take longer to sell but also gives the opportunity for others to buy their dream car at a reduced price. 37k miles is still low, just not for this vehicle. If the price is right anything will sell. It would be better to offer less than asking. I have seen it can take time to sell these cars, I guess it depends on a few factors, price being a big one but also the financial climate has an affect. There are a lot less customers for this vehicle. The point is that being a 'track experience' or 'wedding hire' car is pure speculation. There are some people who drive these cars regularly, especially in the US where there are much more of these cars. It really depends on the owners finances. I wish I could drive it so much. Andrew is a lucky guy to be able to have driven his aventador so much. He also has a huge amount of experience. I would have no problem buying a car with 37k miles so far as it is provided with a full history of expenditure and report with warranty etc. At this level cars that are driven regularly often have less problems than those that are not. They 'break' just sitting, on some the gearbox can fall asleep but can simply be woken up by disconnecting the battery and reconnecting it, this happens when the car is not used regularly or has been sitting for a while.

Don't think he 'won' the car either, reckon he bought it!! Can't figure out how this is a typo or how you get to 'won' from 'buy'?
to be clear, it's a superleggera not an aventador
yes , OWNed from new !
now on 65k and climbing...
car was still loosening up at 37k
and yes, very much the better for being driven regularly

Edited by andrew on Saturday 23 December 14:40

Kerniki

2,059 posts

24 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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tigertiger12 said:
TP321 said:
Why coupe and not roadster? for the roof box?
Not sure where you are going with this, please elaborate?
I am looking to purchase a coupe and have seen them with a roofbox.
Do you have or have you had an aventador?
An English as first language thing..

He means, is your reason for going with a coupe and NOT the roadster because you would like to fit a roof box, as I’m guessing it’s not possible on the roadster (or at least not advisablehehe)

I don’t think cruise was possible on early cars (not seen it anyway)
But is either standard on the S or an option. Personally think it’s a good idea as holding throttle and maintaining speeds on motorway is a pain if up and down hills, so many more people use cruise these days it makes syncing more difficult. It’s a great motorway car btw, I find the seats better than my GTC & 720, but I’m quite heavy and compacted smile would definitely have cruise if I can find a Borealis roadster S

Btw, Not even a usb slot on pre 2016 cars

ETA - most talk on clutch is about reducing slip via corsa or street mode to lengthen clutch life, launch bangs the plates together so I imagine it’s harder on shafts and gearbox internal rather than the cutch itself, no?

tigertiger12

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130 posts

42 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Kerniki said:
An English as first language thing..

He means, is your reason for going with a coupe and NOT the roadster because you would like to fit a roof box, as I’m guessing it’s not possible on the roadster (or at least not advisablehehe)

I don’t think cruise was possible on early cars (not seen it anyway)
But is either standard on the S or an option. Personally think it’s a good idea as holding throttle and maintaining speeds on motorway is a pain if up and down hills, so many more people use cruise these days it makes syncing more difficult. It’s a great motorway car btw, I find the seats better than my GTC & 720, but I’m quite heavy and compacted smile would definitely have cruise if I can find a Borealis roadster S

Btw, Not even a usb slot on pre 2016 cars

ETA - most talk on clutch is about reducing slip via corsa or street mode to lengthen clutch life, launch bangs the plates together so I imagine it’s harder on shafts and gearbox internal rather than the cutch itself, no?
Gotcha, i guess a translation thing. Thought there was a competition I was not aware of that I needed to enter!

I'm looking for an 'S' model which is from 2017 so will ask about cruise control, would prefer this option.

buying a coupe has nothing to do with the roofbox, i'm just not into convertibles or roadsters so it is never something I look at, when searching I always narrow search results by selecting 'coupe'.

It seems to me TP321 is looking for fault, same as i said before, people like to jump on others and claim they don't wish to buy the car or such. It is quite common, again it's easier to just not reply if this is the case. TP321 has already made an incorrect assumption about a high mileage car being a 'track' or 'wedding' car. I will buy the car in my own time, when I am ready. While a possibility for any car and something to avoid it is not always the case.

It would be interesting to know what cars TP321 has and has had. Experience with such cars counts much more. Over the years I have heard many people talk negatively about generally expensive cars without any experience at all, we know where this comes from.

Therefore, it is vital to know which lamborghini(s) TP321 has or has had. Even his other supercar experience would be interesting.



TP321

1,483 posts

201 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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tigertiger12 said:
Not sure where you are going with this, please elaborate?
I am looking to purchase a coupe and have seen them with a roofbox.
Do you have or have you had an aventador?
Yes i have a roadster S

tigertiger12

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130 posts

42 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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TP321 said:
Yes i have a roadster S
Great, why not provide some more advice, move on from the roofbox as it seems you are unable to provide any information to help and not from speculation or assumption please such as high mileage cars being track or wedding cars, this would be something most people would want to avoid in buying any car.

I just saw a video last night that Mark McCann has a roof box for his SVJ, I will ask him but likely when I get the car as it is clearly available. I also have a good friend in the US whom I am sure will get one for me if they are not available in the UK, which is why I asked about Thule which is more likely available in the UK. Just in case anyone knows, but it may take time before someone who does know reads this, if at all.

In any case you have not been able to provide any advice on a roofbox so little point discussing it.
Do you have any other cars or just an Aventador Roadster? Just out of my interest in cars.

TP321

1,483 posts

201 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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tigertiger12 said:
Great, why not provide some more advice, move on from the roofbox as it seems you are unable to provide any information to help and not from speculation or assumption please such as high mileage cars being track or wedding cars, this would be something most people would want to avoid in buying any car.

I just saw a video last night that Mark McCann has a roof box for his SVJ, I will ask him but likely when I get the car as it is clearly available. I also have a good friend in the US whom I am sure will get one for me if they are not available in the UK, which is why I asked about Thule which is more likely available in the UK. Just in case anyone knows, but it may take time before someone who does know reads this, if at all.

In any case you have not been able to provide any advice on a roofbox so little point discussing it.
Do you have any other cars or just an Aventador Roadster? Just out of my interest in cars.
i am just pointing out that if you need a roof box then you are limited to a coupe. I prefer the roadster, hence why i bought it.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

42 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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TP321 said:
i am just pointing out that if you need a roof box then you are limited to a coupe. I prefer the roadster, hence why i bought it.
Ok got you better now, if you read the first line of my original post it states:
"I'm looking to buy an Aventador S Coupe"
it's great that you have the roadster just not relevant to me.

If I was looking for a Roadster I would have mentioned it at some point. I'm not keen on the roadster due to removing the roof panels and their storage, from a few I have seen, I have seen some damage to the roof panels from this. Then there is less space in the frunk, or no space with the top stored away. Anyway, the roadster is just 'not me'. Not sure why you wouldn't just state that if I need a roof box that I would have to get the coupe in any case, that would have finshed that straight away. It would have been more helpful if I was asking about a roadster to say it like that also.

How are your roof panels? Any damage?
So what other cars do you have or what other supercars have you owned in the past?
If you have any helpful advice on the aventador then go ahead.

Kerniki

2,059 posts

24 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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He hasnt been awkward in any way Tiger just brief with his responses, advising that high mileage cars could have been rentals or experience cars, which is very good advice and his questioning your coupe motives was totally innocent, he was just asking ‘why’? the coupe and not a roadster, nothing malicious from what i can see.

From what you are typing, Its actually looking like you are here to provoke something tbh, maybe not, hard to tell with your communication so excuse me if you are not.


tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Kerniki said:
He hasnt been awkward in any way Tiger just brief with his responses, advising that high mileage cars could have been rentals or experience cars, which is very good advice and his questioning your coupe motives was totally innocent, he was just asking ‘why’? the coupe and not a roadster, nothing malicious from what i can see.

From what you are typing, Its actually looking like you are here to provoke something tbh, maybe not, hard to tell with your communication so excuse me if you are not.

Not at all actually, I have experienced this before and seen it numerous times. As I said, I did say coupe in the first line of my post. On from that he did not give any other advice and owns an aventador. I'm just being straight, have seen many times people like to claim that someone who wants to buy a car is lying. Even if they are it does not affect anyone and is eaiser to just not reply but the point is to plant the seed to others reading. You state that it looks like I am provoking something when all my replies have been polite and to the point. You could PM me to point out your opinion.

Actually have had some really good and inspiring advice, none from TP321, when in particular owners of aventadors can give the best advice. Most people would want to avoid a wedding or track car but this was pure speculation. Again well driven cars do run better and have less issues, for this I would not rule out a high mileage car, lambo dealers often have high mileage cars with numerous owners and warranty. Very low mileage cars worry me. Questioning the coupe motive could have easily been seen from the first line of my post and numerous others after when his later replies came. Further on a roadster was never mentioned. Why not just ask if I didn't want a roadster for the roof box? Why even jump to this conclusion? Actually if you read my posts I do ask him for advice, but not for the roof box as he doesn't know. He posts repeatedly for the same purpose, great way to 'up' your post count! This is just a joke. Chill Winston! So for me this went on too long for just the roofbox which he was unable to offer advice such as thule model or other. Both my wife and I are 'into' cars, I often travel for meetings and a suit and my jackets are no good in the frunk, the roof box is better, also for long weekends away with the mrs. When i get to a hotel, remove the roof box, take to hotel room and back on for the journey home. I think it would be vital for trips to Europe. It's a solution.

The only mistake I see I made was when he said 'won' and I did not see this was a typo of 'own'. My brain stuck on winning a car and earning money for a car not seeing the correlation, I didn't even see it when 'andrew' capitalised 'OWN', I thought he was expressing he bought it from new which is why i replied to your post saying it must be a translation thing. Also TP321 only answers some of my questions, so I have asked again. If anything I am trying to avoid negativity here which is common on forums in general in particular from people that post a lot towards people that don't, not just this forum. I have always been polite, this is my nature, still some find it necessary to find fault and provoke. I do not see this in any of my posts even to TP321, otherwise I would not respond to him.

I hope this has cleared this up. Would rather such issues PM'ed to me rather than ruin this thread.
But others are welcome to PM me with advice also.

Kerniki

2,059 posts

24 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Thats all from me then. Good luck smile

RagingBulls

2,714 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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tigertiger12 said:
Perfect RagingBulls, I will be sure to obtain this report. Not surprised about the ODB port, I only noticed cruise control on a listing for a car at £234,995, 2018 with 9800 miles. I was also surprised as I'm sure not one cares about this, I know it is available on the huracan but not common and easy to see as the controls are part of the multifunction steering wheel so you can see 'blank' buttons or 'pictured' buttons. It does help me refrain from dodgy right foot syndrome, but neither here nor there in the grand scheme of the vehicle. I was surprised when i read it so it is likely a mistake.

Can you let me know more about what I need to check for the clutch reading? Or where I can find more information about this? Also, what parameters are good / acceptable and what is bad or unacceptable?

Thank you very much for your info. I will look into this more.
The cluth reading is measured in % worn so an 80 means its 80% worn. Anything around 40% should be fine but speak to a main dealer for proper guidance. I would find a car with a main dealer and then grill them on things like this - it will help you gain more knowledge on the car mate.

andymc

7,382 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th December 2023
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tigertiger12 said:
Kerniki said:
He hasnt been awkward in any way Tiger just brief with his responses, advising that high mileage cars could have been rentals or experience cars, which is very good advice and his questioning your coupe motives was totally innocent, he was just asking ‘why’? the coupe and not a roadster, nothing malicious from what i can see.

From what you are typing, Its actually looking like you are here to provoke something tbh, maybe not, hard to tell with your communication so excuse me if you are not.

Not at all actually, I have experienced this before and seen it numerous times. As I said, I did say coupe in the first line of my post. On from that he did not give any other advice and owns an aventador. I'm just being straight, have seen many times people like to claim that someone who wants to buy a car is lying. Even if they are it does not affect anyone and is eaiser to just not reply but the point is to plant the seed to others reading. You state that it looks like I am provoking something when all my replies have been polite and to the point. You could PM me to point out your opinion.

Actually have had some really good and inspiring advice, none from TP321, when in particular owners of aventadors can give the best advice. Most people would want to avoid a wedding or track car but this was pure speculation. Again well driven cars do run better and have less issues, for this I would not rule out a high mileage car, lambo dealers often have high mileage cars with numerous owners and warranty. Very low mileage cars worry me. Questioning the coupe motive could have easily been seen from the first line of my post and numerous others after when his later replies came. Further on a roadster was never mentioned. Why not just ask if I didn't want a roadster for the roof box? Why even jump to this conclusion? Actually if you read my posts I do ask him for advice, but not for the roof box as he doesn't know. He posts repeatedly for the same purpose, great way to 'up' your post count! This is just a joke. Chill Winston! So for me this went on too long for just the roofbox which he was unable to offer advice such as thule model or other. Both my wife and I are 'into' cars, I often travel for meetings and a suit and my jackets are no good in the frunk, the roof box is better, also for long weekends away with the mrs. When i get to a hotel, remove the roof box, take to hotel room and back on for the journey home. I think it would be vital for trips to Europe. It's a solution.

The only mistake I see I made was when he said 'won' and I did not see this was a typo of 'own'. My brain stuck on winning a car and earning money for a car not seeing the correlation, I didn't even see it when 'andrew' capitalised 'OWN', I thought he was expressing he bought it from new which is why i replied to your post saying it must be a translation thing. Also TP321 only answers some of my questions, so I have asked again. If anything I am trying to avoid negativity here which is common on forums in general in particular from people that post a lot towards people that don't, not just this forum. I have always been polite, this is my nature, still some find it necessary to find fault and provoke. I do not see this in any of my posts even to TP321, otherwise I would not respond to him.

I hope this has cleared this up. Would rather such issues PM'ed to me rather than ruin this thread.
But others are welcome to PM me with advice also.
if you are in a position to buy it then do it, buy from a main dealer with a good warranty, tempus fugit and all that

andymc

7,382 posts

210 months

TP321

1,483 posts

201 months

Wednesday 27th December 2023
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andymc said:
That looks a good buy. Main dealer, low enough miles, good spec with all the important bits. And the all important lambo warranty that covers virtually everything (shock absorbers to name just one)

andymc

7,382 posts

210 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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job jobbed as they say

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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RagingBulls said:
The cluth reading is measured in % worn so an 80 means its 80% worn. Anything around 40% should be fine but speak to a main dealer for proper guidance. I would find a car with a main dealer and then grill them on things like this - it will help you gain more knowledge on the car mate.
Great, at least I can get this info, be aware and even check how my own driving affects the clutch. From what I have read it seems the 'S' has a different clutch than the previous base model and does seem to last longer. I will also ask the dealer how much it is to replace.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

42 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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andymc said:
Indeed, nice example. I do prefer leather seats which it has and love the wheels. Shame the steering wheel is in alcantara. No PPF but easily done.
Nice example. Having said this I've never had alcantara and it does seem to hold out better in the long run. I'm not of large build so have never caused any marks on leather seats. Nice car.

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

130 posts

42 months

Thursday 28th December 2023
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I will wait till March, see whats available, pop down to a dealer and check one out, ask some questions, learn some more, have a look into the clutch wear and see how it goes. I feel I am in the right place with the vehicle. I like the 720S but depreciation kills it for me, the panel gaps also but maybe the 720s is built better than the 570s I saw. I been through Ferrari, the 812 Superfast is nice, but I cannot get away from it only being nice, ok very nice. It is very good looking but not as striking as mid engine ferrari's which I prefer. Great engine sound and luggage space is perfect for me, plenty of space I can access from inside the car and a very large rear boot. Incredibly practical but not drawn away from the aventador even getting a newer MY and longer warranty for the same price. The Ferrari that sticks out is the F8 Tributo, great looking car but do feel a few Ferrari models look very similar and you need to look. The 812 would be a newer MY, longer warranty and servicing package on some I've seen, but I look and am back taking much more interest in the aventador. Very striking looks, loud, interior seems timeless and the doors... oh the doors. I think Mclaren are out of the running and I have not asked anything about any Ferrari and dont feel the need. I dont think it will satisfy me in the same way as the aventador. The advice here has not put me off at all, if anything it has sealed it. The only thorn is the huracan as I can get an EVO with the nice LCD screen, Bristol has a 2021 for £228 which gives me a longer warranty, eased costs but no lambo doors. Could always come back to this after the aventador if everything goes well.

I feel I am there, sadly wish it was just £50k cheaper. There is a 2020 for £300, not main dealer, full alcantara interior which I am not keen on, no glass engine cover but would give me 2 years driving and resale with a warranty. Moves me up a notch at this price, could be tempted at £275 if it was the one for me with PPF. Insurance was less then I expected. I will however try to work harder and see if I can keep the car for longer but not expecting this. Well let's see... March / April will come around very quickly.

I am very grateful to those that have provided advice. Interesting to read that I should put the car in Neutral whenever possible to avoid clutch wear. Wont be launching it... ever. Have a great reputable experienced network for any work that need to be done or diagnosing any issues. Wont be burning through rubber and depending on the price will have around £50 for incidentals, if less then I will add to it as time goes on. I need to bite the bullet and work harder.