First time buyer of a 458
Discussion
Use the search but to try and be helpful some key points to check are:
- make sure dampers look dry, no signs of leak, misting etc. They cost around 5-6k per pair.
- Check all the arches for any signs of corrosion, the rears are particular prone to corrosion.
- Check the brakes disc look clean and are smooth to the touch, if they are rough and the surface looks worn could be worth getting them wear tested.
Considering buying from dealer network or privately on the basis it comes with Ferrari power warranty, also ensure it has full service history from dealership with no services missed as the first 7 services were all free on the 458 so cars with missed services were really lazy owners so avoid those cars.
Ferrari warranty is around £2800 per year.
Ferrari servicing is £900-1500 per year, plus any additional items required.
Then its the usual stuff, check for no smoking on startup, no smoking whilst driving, correct function of everything, no knocks or bangs from suspension.
Also make sure the tyres are not old and perished a lot of Ferrari owners do so little miles that believe it or not some 458's could still be on the original tyres and though the tread may look fine, they are way past their best due to rubber getting old and won't grip any more, so ideally make sure the tyres are less than six years old on the car.
Michelin PS4S are also probably the best single upgrade you can do to a 458 also, transforms the car from the Pzero they came with and are quite a step on from the MPSS also.
- make sure dampers look dry, no signs of leak, misting etc. They cost around 5-6k per pair.
- Check all the arches for any signs of corrosion, the rears are particular prone to corrosion.
- Check the brakes disc look clean and are smooth to the touch, if they are rough and the surface looks worn could be worth getting them wear tested.
Considering buying from dealer network or privately on the basis it comes with Ferrari power warranty, also ensure it has full service history from dealership with no services missed as the first 7 services were all free on the 458 so cars with missed services were really lazy owners so avoid those cars.
Ferrari warranty is around £2800 per year.
Ferrari servicing is £900-1500 per year, plus any additional items required.
Then its the usual stuff, check for no smoking on startup, no smoking whilst driving, correct function of everything, no knocks or bangs from suspension.
Also make sure the tyres are not old and perished a lot of Ferrari owners do so little miles that believe it or not some 458's could still be on the original tyres and though the tread may look fine, they are way past their best due to rubber getting old and won't grip any more, so ideally make sure the tyres are less than six years old on the car.
Michelin PS4S are also probably the best single upgrade you can do to a 458 also, transforms the car from the Pzero they came with and are quite a step on from the MPSS also.
The OP seems to have done a drive by posting.
But to close the topic, Evo have a great guide
https://www.evo.co.uk/ferrari/458
And also here
https://www.normalguysupercar.com/the-ultimate-fer...
But to close the topic, Evo have a great guide
https://www.evo.co.uk/ferrari/458
And also here
https://www.normalguysupercar.com/the-ultimate-fer...
Edited by andyr on Thursday 18th November 21:43
He might have done but I am also on the same position.
Any opinions on the current 458 market? I accept the cars are dearer than last year but are they value against other cars of their generation? Do they throw up any unexpected horrendous bills or are they fairly well built for an Italian car?
I nearly wrote the cheque just before lockdown in 2020 and am very lucky I didn't. I am self employed and got no bounce back loans or free money from the government. I have only just got back to the moment where I can buy one again?
Any opinions on the current 458 market? I accept the cars are dearer than last year but are they value against other cars of their generation? Do they throw up any unexpected horrendous bills or are they fairly well built for an Italian car?
I nearly wrote the cheque just before lockdown in 2020 and am very lucky I didn't. I am self employed and got no bounce back loans or free money from the government. I have only just got back to the moment where I can buy one again?
Bought my Spider new in 2014, 30,000 miles and it's had tyres (as you would expect), front pads (£750) and a cable for the roof mechanism (£750 ish) that snapped in Austria. Just meant I had to have a mate hold one of the little panels on the buttress out of the way when I put the roof down for the rest of the trip. Easily fixed by JCT Leeds when I got home.
Other than that it's been fantastic. Mine's had PPF from new and still looks like new coming up to 8 years later. It's been all over Europe.
JCT consistently tell me it's in better nick that stuff that's stood and has low miles so dont always assume low miles cars are better. Those fluids need to move around to work.
I don't follow the market. You could watch it for years and save a tenner but you've wasted years of driving fun. Crack on.
Other than that it's been fantastic. Mine's had PPF from new and still looks like new coming up to 8 years later. It's been all over Europe.
JCT consistently tell me it's in better nick that stuff that's stood and has low miles so dont always assume low miles cars are better. Those fluids need to move around to work.
I don't follow the market. You could watch it for years and save a tenner but you've wasted years of driving fun. Crack on.
_Leg_ said:
Bought my Spider new in 2014, 30,000 miles and it's had tyres (as you would expect), front pads (£750) and a cable for the roof mechanism (£750 ish) that snapped in Austria. Just meant I had to have a mate hold one of the little panels on the buttress out of the way when I put the roof down for the rest of the trip. Easily fixed by JCT Leeds when I got home.
Other than that it's been fantastic. Mine's had PPF from new and still looks like new coming up to 8 years later. It's been all over Europe.
JCT consistently tell me it's in better nick that stuff that's stood and has low miles so dont always assume low miles cars are better. Those fluids need to move around to work.
I don't follow the market. You could watch it for years and save a tenner but you've wasted years of driving fun. Crack on.
I put a deposit down on a 2012 about 2 weeks ago and I am not back till 1st week in Dec. It only has less than 8000 miles on it, lovely or the more scope for me to thump some miles on it, might have some teething issues but most of its low mile history was in the 1st half of its life. Can't wait, it also has full PPF, any concern from you on being on too long?Other than that it's been fantastic. Mine's had PPF from new and still looks like new coming up to 8 years later. It's been all over Europe.
JCT consistently tell me it's in better nick that stuff that's stood and has low miles so dont always assume low miles cars are better. Those fluids need to move around to work.
I don't follow the market. You could watch it for years and save a tenner but you've wasted years of driving fun. Crack on.
LindsayMac said:
I put a deposit down on a 2012 about 2 weeks ago and I am not back till 1st week in Dec. It only has less than 8000 miles on it, lovely or the more scope for me to thump some miles on it, might have some teething issues but most of its low mile history was in the 1st half of its life. Can't wait, it also has full PPF, any concern from you on being on too long?
No problems. My Porsche has had full XPEL1 on since new in 2012 and is still close to perfect (35k miles), I've had full Suntec on 2 Ferraris since 2014 and 2015 (30k miles each) respectively and they're still nigh on perfect and Suntec full coverage on my track car since 2017 (11k miles of which around 8k is track miles) and that's still perfect. Ok there's a nick or two in the front that is barely noticeable on them all and when they get bad enough I'll replace the bumper and bonnet PPF but TBH none need doing and I'm a right fussy git. I have part coverage on some other cars too, all good.Mine are all stored indoors in climate controlled garages and rarely left dirty for long though so I cant vouch for cars stored outside.
Well worth having IMO. I have a couple of moderns that don't have it and whilst they're in good nick, they do have stone chips here and there.
Edited by _Leg_ on Thursday 25th November 17:15
I was always very anti PPF.
My 430 has it and I am seriously impressed, it comes clean nice and easy and keeps nasty bugs off the paint. More importantly, where as my freshly painted 911 was soon peppered again, the Ferrari is like new.
When the 911 gets tidied up again it's going to get PPF.
What really blew my mind was a moment of ineptness putting the car in the garage and scraping the wing mirrors. Amazingly it just nicked/ruffled the PPF and left he pain untouched. Amazing.
My 430 has it and I am seriously impressed, it comes clean nice and easy and keeps nasty bugs off the paint. More importantly, where as my freshly painted 911 was soon peppered again, the Ferrari is like new.
When the 911 gets tidied up again it's going to get PPF.
What really blew my mind was a moment of ineptness putting the car in the garage and scraping the wing mirrors. Amazingly it just nicked/ruffled the PPF and left he pain untouched. Amazing.
jjr1 said:
He might have done but I am also on the same position.
Any opinions on the current 458 market? I accept the cars are dearer than last year but are they value against other cars of their generation? Do they throw up any unexpected horrendous bills or are they fairly well built for an Italian car?
I nearly wrote the cheque just before lockdown in 2020 and am very lucky I didn't. I am self employed and got no bounce back loans or free money from the government. I have only just got back to the moment where I can buy one again?
Took me over a year to find mine but finally found a car and took delivery in late summer and I love it. I was happy with a slightly higher mileage as I use my cars and indeed was my preference. I had my heart set on red/crema but a red/black Alcantara car came up, 30,000 miles and just had an official Ferrari service. Any opinions on the current 458 market? I accept the cars are dearer than last year but are they value against other cars of their generation? Do they throw up any unexpected horrendous bills or are they fairly well built for an Italian car?
I nearly wrote the cheque just before lockdown in 2020 and am very lucky I didn't. I am self employed and got no bounce back loans or free money from the government. I have only just got back to the moment where I can buy one again?
I still keep an eye on the market. When I started looking in first quarter 2020 there were around 100-110 cars for sale and it's now down to around 50 (that's Italias and spiders!).
Prices have firmed in that time and if anything seem to have gone up (especially lower mileage). If you can find your spec and in budget I wouldn't take too long to decide as they do seem to go quickly.
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