McLaren 600LT

McLaren 600LT

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dopamine

182 posts

226 months

Monday 2nd March
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JiggyJaggy said:
How do you chaps find the handling over dirty streets, specifically potholes and bumps, any easier or less comfortable than say a 570s?
I am driving mine on pretty brutal, bumpy mountain roads in France at the moment and while I think it handles the bumps very well in terms of composure and 'comfort', the front carbon gets a wicked kicking from even small bumps in the road, and even gets scraped in tight downhill hairpin apexs. I have bought some rub strip stuff from the states which I am hoping will protect from the worst of it (thought really I expect they will just get ripped off) but I have pretty much made peace with the fact that the front under side will need some work at some point to sort out the scrapes. Not driven the 570S, so not sure of comparison... I pretty much leave suspension in the normal N setting even when in Race on the drivetrain... I find the extra compliance actually helps the composure of the car over bumpy roads...
Cheers
TC

scotty1

469 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd March
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heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.

heihei

113 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd March
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Yep and think originally listed at £160 or maybe more.

Terminator X

9,782 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd March
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scotty1 said:
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.
2 owners and 1k miles, WTF!

TX.

heihei

113 posts

153 months

Monday 9th March
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Now under offer

scotty1

469 posts

174 months

Monday 9th March
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Well I've had the 600LT just over a week now and got the opportunity to drive it a bit harder this weekend. What a machine. Comparing against a GT3 I have to say the 600lt is far superior in every way. So much quicker so much more responsive and more fun to drive IMO. The GT3 felt dangerous at high speed on the road but the 600 feels so much more planted and safe. Bizarrely even the missus commented on this without me prompting her.

Mclaren get a bad wrap but honestly IMO its so much better. I get there is a big price difference when new but when you compare a second hand 1 year old 600 against the 991.2 GT3 its not night and day. Most GT3 RS will be dearer than a second hand 600 and ive not driven a GT3 RS so cant compare there but either way the out and out performance in an RS wont be much between the GT3 so would still expect the 600lt to shine above this as a competitor...

Essentially it's the ongoing running costs of the mclaren (warranty, depreciation) which is its achilles heel which is a real shame given the driving experience which ultimately is why we love cars...


RBT0

1,336 posts

77 months

Monday 9th March
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Yes it's a different league, said also by people that have driven both (inc. GT3 RS) hard on track.

Had my first blast of the season on Saturday as well, my jaw dropped to the floor at the first proper downshift and huge bang from the exhaust, I think even got caught by a fellow driver going opposite way lol, he may have thought I was mad with that face.

GT4RS

2,487 posts

155 months

Monday 9th March
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Terminator X said:
scotty1 said:
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.
2 owners and 1k miles, WTF!

TX.
Pretty sure that started off at 159k

Looks great value at 140k !

GT4RS

2,487 posts

155 months

Monday 9th March
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GT4RS said:
Terminator X said:
scotty1 said:
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.
2 owners and 1k miles, WTF!

TX.
Pretty sure that started off at 159k

Looks great value at 140k !
Makes this roof snorkel version seem an expensive 70k up lift at 210k.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

scotty1

469 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th March
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RBT0 said:
Yes it's a different league, said also by people that have driven both (inc. GT3 RS) hard on track.

Had my first blast of the season on Saturday as well, my jaw dropped to the floor at the first proper downshift and huge bang from the exhaust, I think even got caught by a fellow driver going opposite way lol, he may have thought I was mad with that face.
Same, those exhaust pops are unreal. When i got the GT3 I was immediately thinking there was something missing. Not the case with the 600LT immediate grin factor. Literally smirking like cheshire cat. Passers by must think I'm mental... smile

r o n n i e

114 posts

134 months

Tuesday 10th March
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The 600LT is the “430 scud” of the current production supercars.

Raw, direct, precise, great driver engagement compared to other current, and albeit often on “paper performance” superior offerings.

For me the main reason to not go with the awesome 720s was similar to when I went for the GT3 over the Turbo S.


Thorney

330 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th March
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600LT at £140k is pretty compelling but a lot slower than a 720 on or off track so a second hand 720 at similar money would be my pick unless it really was going to be a track car, the 600 would still be slower but you'd care a lot less.

scotty1

469 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Thorney said:
600LT at £140k is pretty compelling but a lot slower than a 720 on or off track so a second hand 720 at similar money would be my pick unless it really was going to be a track car, the 600 would still be slower but you'd care a lot less.
Definitely a personal preference thing I think. Don't doubt the 720 is quicker but personally I'm not a lover of the looks or interior. Also and I'm sure i will be proven wrong but with only 350ish 600lts produced in rhd, it does make them a little rarer than the 720s, albeit I appreciate that that shouldn't really be a factor.

heihei

113 posts

153 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Does anyone know what 720S rhd production is currently, or likely end up being?

r o n n i e

114 posts

134 months

Tuesday 10th March
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heihei said:
Does anyone know what 720S rhd production is currently, or likely end up being?
Latest data shows:

195x 600LT (5 are SORN)

485x 720S (47 SORN)

Interestingly, currently 198x 488 Pista registered in the UK.


RBT0

1,336 posts

77 months

Tuesday 10th March
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Thorney said:
600LT at £140k is pretty compelling but a lot slower than a 720 on or off track so a second hand 720 at similar money would be my pick unless it really was going to be a track car, the 600 would still be slower but you'd care a lot less.
Well got mixed feedback from other people, saying that on med speed tracks 600 is equal if not better than 720S, but I don’t have a comparison. Straight line no doubt 720S is faster.

As far as I am concerned, I feel 720S just misses the drama and event of a 600LT, 720 is too refined and less connected to the road. Even 765LT will be more refined than 600 due to hydra susp, but overall I am sure will be the best track weapon amongst them.

isaldiri

8,609 posts

126 months

Tuesday 10th March
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RBT0 said:
Well got mixed feedback from other people, saying that on med speed tracks 600 is equal if not better than 720S, but I don’t have a comparison.
Not a chance if the 720 is driven equally competently and on the corsa tyre.

Rocketreid

310 posts

30 months

Tuesday 10th March
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RBT0 said:
Well got mixed feedback from other people, saying that on med speed tracks 600 is equal if not better than 720S, but I don’t have a comparison. Straight line no doubt 720S is faster.

As far as I am concerned, I feel 720S just misses the drama and event of a 600LT, 720 is too refined and less connected to the road. Even 765LT will be more refined than 600 due to hydra susp, but overall I am sure will be the best track weapon amongst them.
All LT models will have more drama than the equivalent donor car as expected.

In my experience a 720S driven on one of the larger tracks would annihilate a 600LT on lap times although it would not necessarily be a more enjoyable drive. Besides on a hot day/track the 600LT brakes would hold up longer so would be more competitive during a longer circuit blast.

I much prefer the looks of a well specced 600LT but the 720S is at similar money a better overall package

430SD_LP640

35 posts

15 months

Saturday 21st March
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GT4RS said:
Makes this roof snorkel version seem an expensive 70k up lift at 210k.
Apparently it was sold with multiple bids. the 675LT with roof scoop also was reserved not long after hitting the market. what virus?! Let's see how long it will take for the piloti pista to be sold.

ChrisW.

3,576 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th March
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I feel sorry for the dealers ... what is a car worth that shouldn't be driven for three months plus ??

Although the dealers are now closed, they will have a lot of costs and few sales until ?