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JiggyJaggy said:
How do you chaps find the handling over dirty streets, specifically potholes and bumps, any easier or less comfortable than say a 570s?
I am driving mine on pretty brutal, bumpy mountain roads in France at the moment and while I think it handles the bumps very well in terms of composure and 'comfort', the front carbon gets a wicked kicking from even small bumps in the road, and even gets scraped in tight downhill hairpin apexs. I have bought some rub strip stuff from the states which I am hoping will protect from the worst of it (thought really I expect they will just get ripped off) but I have pretty much made peace with the fact that the front under side will need some work at some point to sort out the scrapes. Not driven the 570S, so not sure of comparison... I pretty much leave suspension in the normal N setting even when in Race on the drivetrain... I find the extra compliance actually helps the composure of the car over bumpy roads...Cheers
TC
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
scotty1 said:
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
TX.
Well I've had the 600LT just over a week now and got the opportunity to drive it a bit harder this weekend. What a machine. Comparing against a GT3 I have to say the 600lt is far superior in every way. So much quicker so much more responsive and more fun to drive IMO. The GT3 felt dangerous at high speed on the road but the 600 feels so much more planted and safe. Bizarrely even the missus commented on this without me prompting her.
Mclaren get a bad wrap but honestly IMO its so much better. I get there is a big price difference when new but when you compare a second hand 1 year old 600 against the 991.2 GT3 its not night and day. Most GT3 RS will be dearer than a second hand 600 and ive not driven a GT3 RS so cant compare there but either way the out and out performance in an RS wont be much between the GT3 so would still expect the 600lt to shine above this as a competitor...
Essentially it's the ongoing running costs of the mclaren (warranty, depreciation) which is its achilles heel which is a real shame given the driving experience which ultimately is why we love cars...
Mclaren get a bad wrap but honestly IMO its so much better. I get there is a big price difference when new but when you compare a second hand 1 year old 600 against the 991.2 GT3 its not night and day. Most GT3 RS will be dearer than a second hand 600 and ive not driven a GT3 RS so cant compare there but either way the out and out performance in an RS wont be much between the GT3 so would still expect the 600lt to shine above this as a competitor...
Essentially it's the ongoing running costs of the mclaren (warranty, depreciation) which is its achilles heel which is a real shame given the driving experience which ultimately is why we love cars...
Yes it's a different league, said also by people that have driven both (inc. GT3 RS) hard on track.
Had my first blast of the season on Saturday as well, my jaw dropped to the floor at the first proper downshift and huge bang from the exhaust, I think even got caught by a fellow driver going opposite way lol, he may have thought I was mad with that face.
Had my first blast of the season on Saturday as well, my jaw dropped to the floor at the first proper downshift and huge bang from the exhaust, I think even got caught by a fellow driver going opposite way lol, he may have thought I was mad with that face.
Terminator X said:
scotty1 said:
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
TX.
Looks great value at 140k !
GT4RS said:
Terminator X said:
scotty1 said:
heihei said:
First 600LT below £140k? Seems like very good value.....
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wasn't that 150 a week ago. Seems like a dramatic drop.https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
TX.
Looks great value at 140k !
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
RBT0 said:
Yes it's a different league, said also by people that have driven both (inc. GT3 RS) hard on track.
Had my first blast of the season on Saturday as well, my jaw dropped to the floor at the first proper downshift and huge bang from the exhaust, I think even got caught by a fellow driver going opposite way lol, he may have thought I was mad with that face.
Same, those exhaust pops are unreal. When i got the GT3 I was immediately thinking there was something missing. Not the case with the 600LT immediate grin factor. Literally smirking like cheshire cat. Passers by must think I'm mental... Had my first blast of the season on Saturday as well, my jaw dropped to the floor at the first proper downshift and huge bang from the exhaust, I think even got caught by a fellow driver going opposite way lol, he may have thought I was mad with that face.
The 600LT is the “430 scud” of the current production supercars.
Raw, direct, precise, great driver engagement compared to other current, and albeit often on “paper performance” superior offerings.
For me the main reason to not go with the awesome 720s was similar to when I went for the GT3 over the Turbo S.
Raw, direct, precise, great driver engagement compared to other current, and albeit often on “paper performance” superior offerings.
For me the main reason to not go with the awesome 720s was similar to when I went for the GT3 over the Turbo S.
Thorney said:
600LT at £140k is pretty compelling but a lot slower than a 720 on or off track so a second hand 720 at similar money would be my pick unless it really was going to be a track car, the 600 would still be slower but you'd care a lot less.
Definitely a personal preference thing I think. Don't doubt the 720 is quicker but personally I'm not a lover of the looks or interior. Also and I'm sure i will be proven wrong but with only 350ish 600lts produced in rhd, it does make them a little rarer than the 720s, albeit I appreciate that that shouldn't really be a factor. Thorney said:
600LT at £140k is pretty compelling but a lot slower than a 720 on or off track so a second hand 720 at similar money would be my pick unless it really was going to be a track car, the 600 would still be slower but you'd care a lot less.
Well got mixed feedback from other people, saying that on med speed tracks 600 is equal if not better than 720S, but I don’t have a comparison. Straight line no doubt 720S is faster.As far as I am concerned, I feel 720S just misses the drama and event of a 600LT, 720 is too refined and less connected to the road. Even 765LT will be more refined than 600 due to hydra susp, but overall I am sure will be the best track weapon amongst them.
RBT0 said:
Well got mixed feedback from other people, saying that on med speed tracks 600 is equal if not better than 720S, but I don’t have a comparison. Straight line no doubt 720S is faster.
As far as I am concerned, I feel 720S just misses the drama and event of a 600LT, 720 is too refined and less connected to the road. Even 765LT will be more refined than 600 due to hydra susp, but overall I am sure will be the best track weapon amongst them.
All LT models will have more drama than the equivalent donor car as expected. As far as I am concerned, I feel 720S just misses the drama and event of a 600LT, 720 is too refined and less connected to the road. Even 765LT will be more refined than 600 due to hydra susp, but overall I am sure will be the best track weapon amongst them.
In my experience a 720S driven on one of the larger tracks would annihilate a 600LT on lap times although it would not necessarily be a more enjoyable drive. Besides on a hot day/track the 600LT brakes would hold up longer so would be more competitive during a longer circuit blast.
I much prefer the looks of a well specced 600LT but the 720S is at similar money a better overall package
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