650s CoupΓ©

650s CoupΓ©

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breadvan

1,452 posts

115 months

Thursday 15th August
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GT4RS said:
, you can easily loose 30k on a Porsche Cayenne over 3 years
I did more than that in 18 months!

(The price of GT3 membership, should’ve just paid overs).

In fact, thinking about it, my Cayenne lost more in 18 months than my 12C did, there you go....

GT4RS

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1,954 posts

144 months

Wednesday 21st August
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GT4RS said:
GT4RS said:
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GT4RS said:
There seems to be a bit of a pattern with this car, they have now increased the price considerably back up to £125k ????

I’ve known the car fail to sell in 3 of the garages it’s been advertised in over the last year and a bit and on two occasions it’s had the price increased????

It didn’t sell a year ago at £125k why on earth would they increase the price back up tomtgis knowing it’s been moved around at least 3 garages and still failed to sell????

I guess the next part of the pattern was for it to be marked sold again only to pop up in another independent.

Is the owner of this car on this forum?
And now it’s on eBay for 10k less, back down to £115k
Good this car is doing the rounds, it’s now appeared at a different independent for £129,990.... back up in price it goes!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Up and down like a yo-yo

https://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/624041961/...
Wow they have now slashed 10k off last weeks £130k asking price!

5k more than its lowest advertised price of £115k the other month.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Still looks expensive compared to other coupes by some mile!

RSbandit

790 posts

79 months

Thursday 22nd August
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They might as well take another 10k off it maybe even 15

MDL111

3,888 posts

124 months

Thursday 22nd August
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given there are now 5 720Ss in the 150s, I think that a 650 will have to be at close to 100k as I would have thought that finding an extra 30-40k for the newer model should be possible for most buyers

IMI A

6,979 posts

148 months

Thursday 22nd August
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MDL111 said:
given there are now 5 720Ss in the 150s, I think that a 650 will have to be at close to 100k as I would have thought that finding an extra 30-40k for the newer model should be possible for most buyers
I think trade bid on that car would be £75k-£80k. 650s not ageing as swell as 12C IMO which does not bode well for future values. 12C really starting to look quite cool 9 years on.

GT4RS

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1,954 posts

144 months

Thursday 22nd August
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IMI A said:
MDL111 said:
given there are now 5 720Ss in the 150s, I think that a 650 will have to be at close to 100k as I would have thought that finding an extra 30-40k for the newer model should be possible for most buyers
I think trade bid on that car would be £75k-£80k. 650s not ageing as swell as 12C IMO which does not bode well for future values. 12C really starting to look quite cool 9 years on.
Considering this is I think the 5th independent trying to sell this car over the last few years on SOR you may be right. It would appear the market had no interest at this time above 100k do your 75k to 80k trade value may be correct.

Even buying at 100k using for 5k and trying to sell in a year could cost you a small fortune.

Such a waste of a beautiful car.

GT4RS

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1,954 posts

144 months

Saturday 7th September
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GT4RS said:
GT4RS said:
GT4RS said:
GT4RS said:
GT4RS said:
There seems to be a bit of a pattern with this car, they have now increased the price considerably back up to £125k ????

I’ve known the car fail to sell in 3 of the garages it’s been advertised in over the last year and a bit and on two occasions it’s had the price increased????

It didn’t sell a year ago at £125k why on earth would they increase the price back up tomtgis knowing it’s been moved around at least 3 garages and still failed to sell????

I guess the next part of the pattern was for it to be marked sold again only to pop up in another independent.

Is the owner of this car on this forum?
And now it’s on eBay for 10k less, back down to £115k
Good this car is doing the rounds, it’s now appeared at a different independent for £129,990.... back up in price it goes!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Up and down like a yo-yo

https://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/624041961/...
Wow they have now slashed 10k off last weeks £130k asking price!

5k more than its lowest advertised price of £115k the other month.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Still looks expensive compared to other coupes by some mile!
And now it’s back to its previous lowest advertised price of £115k

The pricing of this car goes up and down weekly by the looks!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/McLaren-650S-V8/1238678...

Ferruccio

923 posts

66 months

Saturday 7th September
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As this shows, asking prices don’t matter much.
Especially at the moment.

GT4RS

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1,954 posts

144 months

Sunday 8th September
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Ferruccio said:
As this shows, asking prices don’t matter much.
Especially at the moment.
Sorry but I don’t understand what you mean ?

Carl_Manchester

5,469 posts

209 months

Monday 16th September
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GT4RS said:
IMI A said:
MDL111 said:
given there are now 5 720Ss in the 150s, I think that a 650 will have to be at close to 100k as I would have thought that finding an extra 30-40k for the newer model should be possible for most buyers
I think trade bid on that car would be £75k-£80k. 650s not ageing as swell as 12C IMO which does not bode well for future values. 12C really starting to look quite cool 9 years on.
Considering this is I think the 5th independent trying to sell this car over the last few years on SOR you may be right. It would appear the market had no interest at this time above 100k do your 75k to 80k trade value may be correct.

Even buying at 100k using for 5k and trying to sell in a year could cost you a small fortune.

Such a waste of a beautiful car.
I don't usually post on depreciation threads, worth mentioning here that a pair of spiders went up on a well known dealers site on their launch week for £275k each. My assumption at the time is that whomever buys these cars is too loaded to care what they shed and have moved onto the 720S long ago.

That said, these are now Porsche 911 money and either the 911 is overpriced or there is a lack of love out there for the Macca's as the 650S Spider is in a different league performance wise.

f1ten

1,878 posts

100 months

Tuesday 17th September
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I need to read up more on the subject: but I have been told by an ex mclaren 12c mechanic that the car is difficult to work on and more labour hours are required to change various components. Therefore unless there are cheaper solutions to servicing then it's possible the 12c /650 could be eye watering expensive to fix. This alone puts me off and I feel I can speak on this subject as I've run an older ferrari for quite some time and know what bills it can chuck out!

davek_964

6,075 posts

122 months

Tuesday 17th September
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f1ten said:
I need to read up more on the subject: but I have been told by an ex mclaren 12c mechanic that the car is difficult to work on and more labour hours are required to change various components. Therefore unless there are cheaper solutions to servicing then it's possible the 12c /650 could be eye watering expensive to fix. This alone puts me off and I feel I can speak on this subject as I've run an older ferrari for quite some time and know what bills it can chuck out!
If that was true, wouldn't the servicing be more expensive? I've seen figures quoted of ~£800 - £1,500 depending on what service you need. That certainly doesn't seem worse than a Ferrari?

MAC 720S

605 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th September
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f1ten said:
I need to read up more on the subject: but I have been told by an ex mclaren 12c mechanic that the car is difficult to work on and more labour hours are required to change various components. Therefore unless there are cheaper solutions to servicing then it's possible the 12c /650 could be eye watering expensive to fix. This alone puts me off and I feel I can speak on this subject as I've run an older ferrari for quite some time and know what bills it can chuck out!
www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/product/mclaren-service-annual

Edited by MAC 720S on Tuesday 17th September 15:32

355spiderguy

598 posts

118 months

Tuesday 17th September
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f1ten said:
I need to read up more on the subject: but I have been told by an ex mclaren 12c mechanic that the car is difficult to work on and more labour hours are required to change various components. Therefore unless there are cheaper solutions to servicing then it's possible the 12c /650 could be eye watering expensive to fix. This alone puts me off and I feel I can speak on this subject as I've run an older ferrari for quite some time and know what bills it can chuck out!
Have to say that was the complete opposite of what the 4 technicians at McLaren Glasgow workshop told me when i had my 650 spider in for a service 5 weeks ago...to a man the 650 is their favourite McLaren to service / repair due to it being so easy to work on and the lack of any things going wrong with them...

GT4RS

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1,954 posts

144 months

Tuesday 17th September
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No idea of running cost as I’m yet to own a Mclaren, but after having a quick look tonight they have slashed a further 5k off the asking price.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Now its advertised at £110k

The white coupe low milage nice spec 650s coupe looks to of sold after the rrp was dropped to 97k so they look to be moving at the right price.

650s cars are starting to look a lot of car for the money.

Charlie360

356 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th September
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It's also listed as a spider now!

Carl_Manchester

5,469 posts

209 months

Wednesday 18th September
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GT4RS said:
No idea of running cost as I’m yet to own a Mclaren, but after having a quick look tonight they have slashed a further 5k off the asking price.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Now its advertised at £110k

The white coupe low milage nice spec 650s coupe looks to of sold after the rrp was dropped to 97k so they look to be moving at the right price.

650s cars are starting to look a lot of car for the money.
I am late to this thread but that 650S Coupe has approx 2,500 miles on it, is around 3 1/2 years old and was what, £219k-ish new and yet, can't be shifted for a £110k loss-from-new?

911 Turbo S built same month and year, double the milage £152k new and listed for £127k (OPC Bolton) when really it should up for £80k.

and they say the Turbo S is soul-less, what does that make the 650S? car worlds gone bonkers.


RSbandit

790 posts

79 months

Wednesday 18th September
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Porsche's look overvalued period...only one that interests me is the GT3/RS but again much too expensive given the 'overs'.

justin220

4,206 posts

151 months

Wednesday 18th September
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Carl_Manchester said:
I am late to this thread but that 650S Coupe has approx 2,500 miles on it, is around 3 1/2 years old and was what, £219k-ish new and yet, can't be shifted for a £110k loss-from-new?

911 Turbo S built same month and year, double the milage £152k new and listed for £127k (OPC Bolton) when really it should up for £80k.

and they say the Turbo S is soul-less, what does that make the 650S? car worlds gone bonkers.
Only reasoning I can see is, the Porsche is significantly cheaper to run on warranty and servicing.

I can't quite get my head round someone picking a 991T over a Mac. Unless it's for the tiny back seats

s2000db

821 posts

100 months

Wednesday 18th September
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justin220 said:
Only reasoning I can see is, the Porsche is significantly cheaper to run on warranty and servicing.

I can't quite get my head round someone picking a 991T over a Mac. Unless it's for the tiny back seats
Peace of mind, warranty, known depreciation rate, and you can get two sets of golf clubs on the rear seat shelf..