650s CoupΓ©

650s CoupΓ©

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MDL111

4,619 posts

133 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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LotusJas said:
MDL111 said:
I agree - that spoiler and the low weight are both very very good selling points. Will need to try one at some point.
Doesn’t look like on the 720 is comes up that much - might be mistaken though as not first hand experience
I can confirm that under just moderately hard braking from speed, the 720S wing comes up near vertical, and completely blocks your rear vision - very very cool biggrin
Ah thank you - that is good to know

andrew

9,029 posts

148 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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MDL111 said:
LotusJas said:
MDL111 said:
I agree - that spoiler and the low weight are both very very good selling points. Will need to try one at some point.
Doesn’t look like on the 720 is comes up that much - might be mistaken though as not first hand experience
I can confirm that under just moderately hard braking from speed, the 720S wing comes up near vertical, and completely blocks your rear vision - very very cool biggrin
Ah thank you - that is good to know
always useful when you spot the bib behind you and you're trying to subtly lose speed !

MDL111

4,619 posts

133 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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andrew said:
MDL111 said:
LotusJas said:
MDL111 said:
I agree - that spoiler and the low weight are both very very good selling points. Will need to try one at some point.
Doesn’t look like on the 720 is comes up that much - might be mistaken though as not first hand experience
I can confirm that under just moderately hard braking from speed, the 720S wing comes up near vertical, and completely blocks your rear vision - very very cool biggrin
Ah thank you - that is good to know
always useful when you spot the bib behind you and you're trying to subtly lose speed !
Good thought.

I was thinking about when you need to watch the guy behind you to take evasive action if they don’t brake quickly enough - ah well, just hope they don’t rear end you.....

br d

7,545 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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MDL111 said:
Good thought.

I was thinking about when you need to watch the guy behind you to take evasive action if they don’t brake quickly enough - ah well, just hope they don’t rear end you.....
A long as there's room in front nothing is quick enough to rear end a 720!

LotusJas

1,033 posts

187 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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andrew said:
always useful when you spot the bib behind you and you're trying to subtly lose speed !
If you're on the loud pedal in the 720S, nothing will be anywhere near your rear. It's the cameras that will catch you.

Charlie360

367 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Did anyone enquire further as to the Pegasus, black 650 coupe, it still appears to be listed on their site for £123K? I ended up buying an Azores 720s and driving it home in the snow yesterdayeek

Sarnie

6,579 posts

165 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Charlie360 said:
Did anyone enquire further as to the Pegasus, black 650 coupe, it still appears to be listed on their site for £123K? I ended up buying an Azores 720s and driving it home in the snow yesterdayeek
Thats a bit of a jump! thumbup

GT4RS

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2,361 posts

153 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

This car seems to be doing rounds. The last independent garage which had it for sale marked it as sold! They also upped the price after a week or two so doesn’t say much for them.

Seems salty to me now even at £121,500 as they have dropped a bit over the last four month, you can get into a lovely low mile spider with a Mac warranty for less.



12pack

1,076 posts

124 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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GT4RS said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

This car seems to be doing rounds. The last independent garage which had it for sale marked it as sold! They also upped the price after a week or two so doesn’t say much for them.

Seems salty to me now even at £121,500 as they have dropped a bit over the last four month, you can get into a lovely low mile spider with a Mac warranty for less.
Indeed the problem with the 650s coupe is that - well, its not a spider. Really been appreciating driving with the top down in mine last couple of weeks. And the coupe additionally misses the ability to drop the rear window to enhance the sound....

MDL111

4,619 posts

133 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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I am in the minority, but would prefer a coupe (esp with buckets and ideally cage) - buyer for every car

isaldiri

7,491 posts

124 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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MDL111 said:
I am in the minority, but would prefer a coupe (esp with buckets and ideally cage) - buyer for every car
Agreed coupe with buckets everytime. No interest in a convertible personally.

RBT0

1,231 posts

75 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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And same here, spiders are for girls, and webs. Lol

Joking aside, usually with roof car is lighter. Spider has additional bits and pieces...

br d

7,545 posts

182 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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isaldiri said:
MDL111 said:
I am in the minority, but would prefer a coupe (esp with buckets and ideally cage) - buyer for every car
Agreed coupe with buckets everytime. No interest in a convertible personally.
But the convertible is still the coupe, just don't push the button!

Aside from being about .1 slower to 500 miles an hour there is no difference with a McLaren convertible, even if you just drop it for 5 minutes a year it's a must!

Rocketreid

260 posts

28 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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br d said:
But the convertible is still the coupe, just don't push the button!

Aside from being about .1 slower to 500 miles an hour there is no difference with a McLaren convertible, even if you just drop it for 5 minutes a year it's a must!
Actually quite a bit of difference in reality but of no consequence unless you track your car.

A Coupe is faster on track because of weight , weight distribution and the additional handing rigidity

br d

7,545 posts

182 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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Rocketreid said:
Actually quite a bit of difference in reality but of no consequence unless you track your car.

A Coupe is faster on track because of weight , weight distribution and the additional handing rigidity
From memory the difference in performance is negligible, although I don't track my cars so I'm not an authority on it. The similar handling characteristics between the coupe and convertible is McLaren's USP, that's the whole point of the unmentionable carbon tub, there is no loss of rigidity.

This is nitpicking anyway, my point was the convertible gives you two cars in one and other than a small price difference I can't see any downside to owning the convertible. Hammering through an Alpine tunnel with the roof down and blasting out into the sunshine will soon alleviate any doubts!

12pack

1,076 posts

124 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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br d said:
From memory the difference in performance is negligible, although I don't track my cars so I'm not an authority on it. The similar handling characteristics between the coupe and convertible is McLaren's USP, that's the whole point of the unmentionable carbon tub, there is no loss of rigidity.

This is nitpicking anyway, my point was the convertible gives you two cars in one and other than a small price difference I can't see any downside to owning the convertible. Hammering through an Alpine tunnel with the roof down and blasting out into the sunshine will soon alleviate any doubts!
+1

I do track my cars I would challenge anyone to distinguish a 650s coupe from a spider top up in a blind test on track. The difference is far less than driving consistency lap-to-lap.


isaldiri

7,491 posts

124 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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br d said:
From memory the difference in performance is negligible, although I don't track my cars so I'm not an authority on it. The similar handling characteristics between the coupe and convertible is McLaren's USP, that's the whole point of the unmentionable carbon tub, there is no loss of rigidity.

This is nitpicking anyway, my point was the convertible gives you two cars in one and other than a small price difference I can't see any downside to owning the convertible. Hammering through an Alpine tunnel with the roof down and blasting out into the sunshine will soon alleviate any doubts!
I don't disagree with what you're saying re handling but I'm shallow biggrin i like the look of the roofline of the coupe better and i know it weighs more (even if it actually doesn't affect the dynamics) so that's a good enough excuse for me to want the coupe!

GT4RS

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2,361 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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GT4RS said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

This car seems to be doing rounds. The last independent garage which had it for sale marked it as sold! They also upped the price after a week or two so doesn’t say much for them.

Seems salty to me now even at £121,500 as they have dropped a bit over the last four month, you can get into a lovely low mile spider with a Mac warranty for less.
Interesting since I last posted a few days ago they have now dropped in price by £1500. I would love to go and look at it try and strike a deal but imo it’s still to expensive compared to the spiders for sale and the fact that it isn’t being sold by Mclaren with a full warranty and inspection. There seems to be a nice supply of used spiders cars coming through.

andrew

9,029 posts

148 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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br d said:
...the unmentionable carbon tub, there is no loss of rigidity...
why is the carbonfibre tub unmentionable ?!

GT4RS

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2,361 posts

153 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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Just checked if the coupe was still up for sale at the independents and wasn’t shocked to see it still was. It’s taken the best part of a 10k drop in price since I first spotted it and it still seems to be top heavy.

I really like it, but have a gut feeling this thing will still loose a lot of money per month?