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Imo might be overall the best car ever - so useable and still special. That engine is a peach and the 4wd is surprisingly efficient/have not managed to get it stuck yet. Quite nimble for its size and weight too. I love mine (even if Ferrari and Brembo used cheap screws, mesh and fixings and it all rusts unfortunately)
The FF is a great car, I’ve had two. But the step up to the V12 GTC Lusso is really significant. Especially the interior and handling due to the 4WS. Better at slow and fast speeds. The GTC also feels much better built, they got rid of a lot of electrical quirks and gremlins from the FF too. Just recently had it lowered a touch and wheels widened, it’s made the handling even better and looks a lot more aggressive on the road. For my preference I can’t imagine a better car with 4 seats.
ThePackMan said:
The FF is a great car, I’ve had two. But the step up to the V12 GTC Lusso is really significant. Especially the interior and handling due to the 4WS. Better at slow and fast speeds. The GTC also feels much better built, they got rid of a lot of electrical quirks and gremlins from the FF too. Just recently had it lowered a touch and wheels widened, it’s made the handling even better and looks a lot more aggressive on the road. For my preference I can’t imagine a better car with 4 seats.
Any chance you have driven it on salt for a season or two already and have input on if it rusts?I prefer the exterior of the FF, but the Lusso is certainly very nice
No. To be honest it’s not my main car, so I don’t drive it every day, therefore I’ve not given it serious winter use. Although, I did use my FF pretty much the same and that did show more signs of visible erosion than the GTC. Not so much rust, more aluminium anodising etc. If you can stretch to a GTC id really recommend it. Rear of the exterior is much better than the FF in my opinion. parked next to an 812 super fast it’s pretty much the same car from the rear.
ThePackMan said:
No. To be honest it’s not my main car, so I don’t drive it every day, therefore I’ve not given it serious winter use. Although, I did use my FF pretty much the same and that did show more signs of visible erosion than the GTC. Not so much rust, more aluminium anodising etc. If you can stretch to a GTC id really recommend it. Rear of the exterior is much better than the FF in my opinion. parked next to an 812 super fast it’s pretty much the same car from the rear.
Ok thanks - I will see how it looks after this season - which will be its third winter in my ownership. I might get a GTC when the FF has to retire from daily duty, hopefully not for another few years. I prefer the FF rear (owned a Z3 M Coupe when I was young ....), having said that I also like the Lusso - esp the front. Both great cars and imo the best daily driver imaginable (a bigger petrol tank would be nice, but then there wouldn’t be boot space left ....)ThePackMan said:
The FF is a great car, I’ve had two. But the step up to the V12 GTC Lusso is really significant. Especially the interior and handling due to the 4WS. Better at slow and fast speeds. The GTC also feels much better built, they got rid of a lot of electrical quirks and gremlins from the FF too. Just recently had it lowered a touch and wheels widened, it’s made the handling even better and looks a lot more aggressive on the road. For my preference I can’t imagine a better car with 4 seats.
Have to agree with that. Had an FF when they first came out, didn’t keep that long as enjoyed it but didn’t properly tick any of the boxes I was looking for really. Recently bought a V12 Lusso and it really is a different proposition. Handling feels better for sure, engine is simply fantastic, and internally they’ve made it more liveable by sorting out the pretty useless infotainment that the FF had (and that all the recent Ferraris have had). I have teenage kids and they can fit comfortably in the back. Probably won’t take it on longer journeys, but for shorter ones its just superb in every respect The lusso has a nicer rear but they've spoiled the front imho. The lusso also feels less aggressive to drive for some reason although not spent any serious time with one. More to the point for me though is that i can't justify the extra 100k for a lusso - I'd rather keep one or two other supercars in the garage for the moment. Been driving the FF every day. Can't believe if didn't get one sooner.
slarti650 said:
Been driving the FF every day. Can't believe if didn't get one sooner.
that's what I found when I had one - bought new as a 3rd car to scratch an itch, but I couldn't stop using it as it fitted into my life so well. I ended up putting almost 10,000 miles on it in just over 12 months, which is a pretty expensive exercise in at least two aspects with a V-12 Ferrari. replaced it with an F12 as I reckoned I wouldn't be able to use one of those so much, but even that car I have exceeded the self imposed mileage budget. the FF and GTC4L are truly exceptional motorcars.
Hello
I bought a 2015 FF last year, and after a winter of little use, it is time to start using it again.
Please could people answer a few questions?
It needs some new tyres; do people prefer Michelins over Pirellis? Tramlining on current, albeit 4-5mm Pirellis is quite bad.
I find the brakes less than inspiring...both in feel and stopping power; am I expecting too much from a 2 tonne car? I did send it back to the dealer and they bled the system and pronounced it ok.
When maintaining the battery through the cigarette lighter socket, the ignition needs to be on. Is there another socket that I haven't found?
Thankyou in advance.
What a lovely car it is; that engine...magnificent.
I bought a 2015 FF last year, and after a winter of little use, it is time to start using it again.
Please could people answer a few questions?
It needs some new tyres; do people prefer Michelins over Pirellis? Tramlining on current, albeit 4-5mm Pirellis is quite bad.
I find the brakes less than inspiring...both in feel and stopping power; am I expecting too much from a 2 tonne car? I did send it back to the dealer and they bled the system and pronounced it ok.
When maintaining the battery through the cigarette lighter socket, the ignition needs to be on. Is there another socket that I haven't found?
Thankyou in advance.
What a lovely car it is; that engine...magnificent.
andrewp88 said:
Hello
I bought a 2015 FF last year, and after a winter of little use, it is time to start using it again.
Please could people answer a few questions?
It needs some new tyres; do people prefer Michelins over Pirellis? Tramlining on current, albeit 4-5mm Pirellis is quite bad.
I find the brakes less than inspiring...both in feel and stopping power; am I expecting too much from a 2 tonne car? I did send it back to the dealer and they bled the system and pronounced it ok.
When maintaining the battery through the cigarette lighter socket, the ignition needs to be on. Is there another socket that I haven't found?
Thankyou in advance.
What a lovely car it is; that engine...magnificent.
Mine is on Michelins during summer and I quite like them. Have not had the Pirellis, so can't opine on the difference.I bought a 2015 FF last year, and after a winter of little use, it is time to start using it again.
Please could people answer a few questions?
It needs some new tyres; do people prefer Michelins over Pirellis? Tramlining on current, albeit 4-5mm Pirellis is quite bad.
I find the brakes less than inspiring...both in feel and stopping power; am I expecting too much from a 2 tonne car? I did send it back to the dealer and they bled the system and pronounced it ok.
When maintaining the battery through the cigarette lighter socket, the ignition needs to be on. Is there another socket that I haven't found?
Thankyou in advance.
What a lovely car it is; that engine...magnificent.
I find the brakes quite good once warm, it does not brake as well as a 1.5 tonne car but imo still very well. I drive a lot on the Autobahn, so plenty of hard braking at very high speeds.
There is a socket in the trunk on the right side under the panel for the Ferrari charger (mine is a 2012, but assume they did not move that one). The newest cars have one outside at the rear, but I believe that change was only made for the Lusso.
I love mine - drove c 3,500km last week. Great comfortable car to cross countries/continents
To answer your questions; (oops - looks like MDL111 beat me to it!)
1. Tyres - Michelin PS4 are reported to solve the tramlining problem although I have no personal experience of this.
2. Brakes. The bite point is quite high on the pedal travel and quite sudden on mine. Takes a few minutes to reacquaint myself with it after I've been driving other cars.
3. Charging. The charge port location depends on model year. Early cars have it in the boot on the right hand side. Later cars (which I suspect applies to you) have a contact point to the left of the rear number plate lights. In both cases, the charge plug is of a special design - you definitely don't charge via a standard cigarette plug.
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1. Tyres - Michelin PS4 are reported to solve the tramlining problem although I have no personal experience of this.
2. Brakes. The bite point is quite high on the pedal travel and quite sudden on mine. Takes a few minutes to reacquaint myself with it after I've been driving other cars.
3. Charging. The charge port location depends on model year. Early cars have it in the boot on the right hand side. Later cars (which I suspect applies to you) have a contact point to the left of the rear number plate lights. In both cases, the charge plug is of a special design - you definitely don't charge via a standard cigarette plug.
Sign up to Ferrarichat and take a look at the photos in this thread https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ff-batte...
Edited by ANOpax on Tuesday 19th March 09:14
Edited by ANOpax on Tuesday 19th March 09:19
andrewp88 said:
Many thanks for your help; much appreciated.
I will have the brakes checked again as they lack bite and make me leave a larger than usual gap to the car in front when on a motorway-not that that's a bad thing!
That does not sound normal unless your point of reference is a much lighter car with similar sized brakes I will have the brakes checked again as they lack bite and make me leave a larger than usual gap to the car in front when on a motorway-not that that's a bad thing!
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