So, £150k on a Mclaren to spend, choices?
Discussion
Active75 said:
Find the one you like and make an offer?. See how they respond? Negotiate. Nothing to lose really. You could be lucky. Hopefully.
This I'd be offering 90k for most 570S, I'd only up my offer is they had a lot of the MSO and carbon extras and I'd still not want to pay much over 110k for a car a couple of years old with upto 10k miles.570S Spyder I'd be dropping offers in region of 120-125k, with how cars are sitting around, there is a chance someone will bite.
720S I'd offers 145-155k on a poor spec car and around 170k on a better spec example with lower miles.
Deals to be had!
Im in exactly the same market. Going to hold out until after Geneva Motorshow. Also with the 720s Spider starting to deliver should see more movement in prices as people exchange the 720s.
At the moment my head says 570s Spider - drive it everyday and enjoy the summer with the roof down. Heart says 720s because its a 720s!
No rush and you are right, nothing is shifting, been monitoring 720s for a couple of months and nothing has shifted.
At the moment my head says 570s Spider - drive it everyday and enjoy the summer with the roof down. Heart says 720s because its a 720s!
No rush and you are right, nothing is shifting, been monitoring 720s for a couple of months and nothing has shifted.
Gibbo205 said:
None of them, they are all losing money crazy fast!
720S will be 150k in a few months, you watch, as low as 130k this time next year.
570S several will be under 100k soon!
Hold out, prices are falling and Mclaren are been hit hardest, they have massive amounts of stock of new and used cars not moving.
Haha, well you do read some rubbish on here I guess.... 130k for a 720S, give it a rest 720S will be 150k in a few months, you watch, as low as 130k this time next year.
570S several will be under 100k soon!
Hold out, prices are falling and Mclaren are been hit hardest, they have massive amounts of stock of new and used cars not moving.
I am guessing you have never owned/driven a McLaren? These cars do lose money, however, i'll tell you one thing... I know that there is not any other brand that can put a smile on my face like my previous 570S did, and i'm now driving a 600LT, and that is just amazing.
cheeky (or maybe not reading above) 175 bid on this lovely example?
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
as much as it pains me to bring up depreciation in a post, I'd probably wait a little and hope for a 720 at close to 150k (or at least in the high 150s) in the not too distant future or up the budget slightly and bid low(isch) - call it 165k - on the black car, which I think looks stunning
I recently bought a 570S after watching the market for a few months but I got tired of not enjoying cars. So I did all I could to limit depreciation and then jumped in.
My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Edited by GT Two on Monday 11th February 20:59
GT Two said:
I recently bought a 570S after watching the market for a few months but I got tired of not enjoying cars. So I did all I could to limit depreciation and then jumped in.
My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Great post. My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
But I have to correct you. At least in my case - you only live one-thirds - by the time you can afford such cars.
GT Two said:
I recently bought a 570S after watching the market for a few months but I got tired of not enjoying cars. So I did all I could to limit depreciation and then jumped in.
My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Good post that, and enjoy your 570s My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
GT Two said:
I recently bought a 570S after watching the market for a few months but I got tired of not enjoying cars. So I did all I could to limit depreciation and then jumped in.
My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Unfortunately many people have come to believe that the 2013 onwards bubble is a sustainable norm and believed that they were customers for these kinds of cars whereas when faced with normal depreciation and supercar warranty and servicing costs they realise that they are way out of their depth and have no desire or possibly capacity to spend this sort of money on cars and this really annoys them but it will probably be the reality for all top end marques gong forward apart from the ones who can really restrict supply.My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Agree with what you say about the 570 handling it is a fantastic drive and in no way inferior to the 720 just a bit more playful and certainly fast enough !
The Surveyor said:
GT Two said:
I recently bought a 570S after watching the market for a few months but I got tired of not enjoying cars. So I did all I could to limit depreciation and then jumped in.
My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Good post that, and enjoy your 570s My previous 12c I bought at 115k and sold at 85k making up another £10k in parts I had to sell. So I got 95K back and figure with warranty costs the car cost me 35K over 2 years and 20k miles. I feel like I got a great deal having thoroughly enjoyed the 12c experience.
I bought a 570s a month ago because you only live once, I got a decent discount and bought one with the Track pack option which makes it a bit more desirable and a touch rarer.
If you take depreciation out of the equation Mclaren are building some of the most exciting cars now. The experience is really above the equivalently priced car from Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche. I have owned all three. So you can peruse the classifieds waiting for cars to go down to what you feel is acceptable, but then you probably still won't buy because you are worried the car will depreciate further. Peoples minds are skewed because we have lived in the recent odd times when you can buy a car at list and its worth more. Crazy!
I could have bought a 720 and test drove 2. Mind bendignly fast, probably too much for me. I settled on the 570 because although not as Supercar looking as the 720, I immediately bonded with the handling of the 570 which is enjoyable and playful without having to be at bonkers speeds.
I guess a 570 spider at 130ish would be a nice buy at the moment. I didn't go for a 650 because I felt it was too similar to my outgoing 12c, same interior, same noise, similar handling....
Petrol heads don't worry about depreciation and miss a summer of driving
Here is a couple of pics to show what I have been lucky enough to enjoy over the last few weeks!
445489c2-ba39-4d21-961c-f4dfe6e4c184 by Lee Robertson, on Flickr
98d26091-0a09-4c88-a7e5-b9aa8d179ec5 by Lee Robertson, on FlickrTB993tt said:
Unfortunately many people have come to believe that the 2013 onwards bubble is a sustainable norm and believed that they were customers for these kinds of cars whereas when faced with normal depreciation and supercar warranty and servicing costs they realise that they are way out of their depth and have no desire or possibly capacity to spend this sort of money on cars and this really annoys them but it will probably be the reality for all top end marques gong forward apart from the ones who can really restrict supply.
Agree with what you say about the 570 handling it is a fantastic drive and in no way inferior to the 720 just a bit more playful and certainly fast enough !
Indeed, the reality of car ownership. Im happy with there being a cost to it and it doesn't have to be crazy if you enter and exit at the right times.Agree with what you say about the 570 handling it is a fantastic drive and in no way inferior to the 720 just a bit more playful and certainly fast enough !
The 570 is a superb toy! do you have one?
TB993tt said:
Unfortunately many people have come to believe that the 2013 onwards bubble is a sustainable norm and believed that they were customers for these kinds of cars whereas when faced with normal depreciation and supercar warranty and servicing costs they realise that they are way out of their depth and have no desire or possibly capacity to spend this sort of money on cars and this really annoys them but it will probably be the reality for all top end marques gong forward apart from the ones who can really restrict supply.
Agree with what you say about the 570 handling it is a fantastic drive and in no way inferior to the 720 just a bit more playful and certainly fast enough !
Good post although no-one likes losing £100,000 the second they walk our of the showroom. Thats not the actually the reason I did not buy one. More reliability and McLaren fixing glitches on the 720s which they all seem to have to greater or lesser extent? Its completely unacceptable in a £250,000 to £300,000 product offering and McLaren have basically been building the same car now since 2010. Eight years of development is enough to get a product out there which does exactly what it says on the tin.Agree with what you say about the 570 handling it is a fantastic drive and in no way inferior to the 720 just a bit more playful and certainly fast enough !
This sort of stuff is really off putting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FehDOJAJt-U
Desert Dragon said:
Good post although no-one likes losing £100,000 the second they walk our of the showroom. Thats not the actually the reason I did not buy one. More reliability and McLaren fixing glitches on the 720s which they all seem to have to greater or lesser extent? Its completely unacceptable in a £250,000 to £300,000 product offering and McLaren have basically been building the same car now since 2010. Eight years of development is enough to get a product out there which does exactly what it says on the tin.
This sort of stuff is really off putting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FehDOJAJt-U
Not all...This sort of stuff is really off putting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FehDOJAJt-U
LotusJas posted;
"720S bought new last summer.
Zero reliability issues, not so much as an electrical glitch"
ferdi p said:
Not all...
LotusJas posted;
"720S bought new last summer.
Zero reliability issues, not so much as an electrical glitch"
I hate to say it but I find LotusJas's post difficult to believe, my new 720 has had silly lights coming on here and there includingLotusJas posted;
"720S bought new last summer.
Zero reliability issues, not so much as an electrical glitch"
Power steering failure warning (indeed it stopped working for all of 5 seconds then righted itself)
Parking sensor malfunction warning (comes on now and again no idea why)
Air brake malfunction warning (comes on and off for fun)
Windscreen stress crack (warranty job)
Maybe Jas is so used to Lotus niggles that he has ignored the few Mclaren ones
The telling thing is despite niggles I absolutely adore this car I'm daily driving it and it really is the most accomplished thing doing everything well and so enjoyable to steer and of course it is terrifyingly fast !
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