Living with a McLaren 650s Spider as an (almost) daily
Discussion
RobDown said:
2. The warranty. Where are we now on the cost of this £3.5-5k per annum (from McLaren)? That’s expensive. For contrast extending a warranty on an Aston Martin V12 Vantage is about £1,600, albeit many don’t bother because the cars are reliable (don’t get me started on the new Vantage, those have McLaren-like issues at the moment). The warranty is expensive because the underwriting company is paying out a lot of money.....
Where have you been quoted £1600 for V12 Vantage warranty? I have just been quoted £2,800 on my AM V12V - so not sure your figure is entirely correct? Virtually all high-performance cars have reliability issues of some sort, not sure why you refer to them as McLaren-like issues, I have had issues with virtually all previous cars, in fact the worst was probably my old Porsche Turbo (997.2) which I bought hoping it to be bullet proof in terms of reliability and was anything but. Too many people at the moment acting like it's only McLaren that ever have a problem and all other cars are faultless...
Obafemi09 said:
Where have you been quoted £1600 for V12 Vantage warranty? I have just been quoted £2,800 on my AM V12V - so not sure your figure is entirely correct?
Virtually all high-performance cars have reliability issues of some sort, not sure why you refer to them as McLaren-like issues, I have had issues with virtually all previous cars, in fact the worst was probably my old Porsche Turbo (997.2) which I bought hoping it to be bullet proof in terms of reliability and was anything but. Too many people at the moment acting like it's only McLaren that ever have a problem and all other cars are faultless...
FWIW my 2012 V12V now leaks oil, Nav system replaced, tracker failed, start button worn (now perhaps appropriately says "tart") all in the last few months after I decided not to renew the extended warranty. I guess Aston bashing is OK in the McL forum....Virtually all high-performance cars have reliability issues of some sort, not sure why you refer to them as McLaren-like issues, I have had issues with virtually all previous cars, in fact the worst was probably my old Porsche Turbo (997.2) which I bought hoping it to be bullet proof in terms of reliability and was anything but. Too many people at the moment acting like it's only McLaren that ever have a problem and all other cars are faultless...
Yes I lost an engine on 997.1 turbo. Porsche made fuss replacing because they were convinced I mis shifted or abused the engine. All i was doing was cruising on autobahn between 165-175mph in 6th. They were so arrogant about the reliability of their engine they made the warranty claim a nightmare. At one point the service manager at OPC Hatfield Dean Kleindick (see what i did there?) even said I was driving the car too fast. WTF?!
Matty3 said:
Desert Dragon said:
I think a few on this forum need therapy..
If Mcl life so perfect why not stay there and chillax? So defensive about a car brand. Really?!
You do seem to be one of the serial McL forum stalkers - there is treatment available for your affliction If Mcl life so perfect why not stay there and chillax? So defensive about a car brand. Really?!
We actually went to see 720s and 720s Spyder - I could have lived with foibles and dodgy panel gaps even without an extended test drive - b---h still won't let me have a Mcl and with hindsight thank God she put her foot down with whats going on with all supercars in current mkt. She could have been something if she hadn't married me! She still wants a second opinion from another shrink
Desert Dragon said:
Matty3 said:
Desert Dragon said:
I think a few on this forum need therapy..
If Mcl life so perfect why not stay there and chillax? So defensive about a car brand. Really?!
You do seem to be one of the serial McL forum stalkers - there is treatment available for your affliction If Mcl life so perfect why not stay there and chillax? So defensive about a car brand. Really?!
We actually went to see 720s and 720s Spyder - I could have lived with foibles and dodgy panel gaps even without an extended test drive - b---h still won't let me have a Mcl and with hindsight thank God she put her foot down with whats going on with all supercars in current mkt. She could have been something if she hadn't married me! She still wants a second opinion from another shrink
IMI A said:
Yes I lost an engine on 997.1 turbo. Porsche made fuss replacing because they were convinced I mis shifted or abused the engine. All i was doing was cruising on autobahn between 165-175mph in 6th. They were so arrogant about the reliability of their engine they made the warranty claim a nightmare. At one point the service manager at OPC Hatfield Dean Kleindick (see what i did there?) even said I was driving the car too fast. WTF?!
That’s hilarious (not the issues) but driving too fast davek_964 said:
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I have been driving like Miss Daisy since I last filled up - I admit that I've put my foot down very briefly a couple of times, but it really was very rare and very brief. Even so, after 150 miles I'm down to about 1/4 tank and an estimated 50 mile range - on long runs I can believe I might see a decent tank range, but in my normal use I'm doubting I'll ever see 200 miles from a tank (trip says I've managed 16.8 mpg). A bit annoying - I don't care so much about mpg, but do prefer a decent tank range.
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It seems the car has a more serious problem that I was unaware of when I bought it - it........ doesn't have a vanity mirror on the passenger sun visor. This is apparently a major problem - I really don't understand why. For one thing, the Alfa didn't have one either. The g/f called McLaren to see if it was an option - on some cars, it is possible but not the 650 apparently.
Apparently, there are stick on mirrors - however, nobody is sticking anything on the interior of my car.
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I think I get about 16-17mpg in general for my 650. My 675 actually does a bit better but still under 20, and I’ve even had some longer motorway runs over 30!I have been driving like Miss Daisy since I last filled up - I admit that I've put my foot down very briefly a couple of times, but it really was very rare and very brief. Even so, after 150 miles I'm down to about 1/4 tank and an estimated 50 mile range - on long runs I can believe I might see a decent tank range, but in my normal use I'm doubting I'll ever see 200 miles from a tank (trip says I've managed 16.8 mpg). A bit annoying - I don't care so much about mpg, but do prefer a decent tank range.
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It seems the car has a more serious problem that I was unaware of when I bought it - it........ doesn't have a vanity mirror on the passenger sun visor. This is apparently a major problem - I really don't understand why. For one thing, the Alfa didn't have one either. The g/f called McLaren to see if it was an option - on some cars, it is possible but not the 650 apparently.
Apparently, there are stick on mirrors - however, nobody is sticking anything on the interior of my car.
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The vanity mirror is a problem. You need to upgrade to a 720 or the new GT if you want one... but then they still don’t have a light on them 😂 My partner had a word with the designer at the GT launch about it 😂😂😂
The sun visors work the wrong way anyway and are a miserable excuse for a sun visor
MAC 720S said:
Desert Dragon said:
Matty3 said:
Desert Dragon said:
I think a few on this forum need therapy..
If Mcl life so perfect why not stay there and chillax? So defensive about a car brand. Really?!
You do seem to be one of the serial McL forum stalkers - there is treatment available for your affliction If Mcl life so perfect why not stay there and chillax? So defensive about a car brand. Really?!
We actually went to see 720s and 720s Spyder - I could have lived with foibles and dodgy panel gaps even without an extended test drive - b---h still won't let me have a Mcl and with hindsight thank God she put her foot down with whats going on with all supercars in current mkt. She could have been something if she hadn't married me! She still wants a second opinion from another shrink
Sage advice he can now buy two virtually brand new 720s Coupe for the price of one!
justin220 said:
Superb. Another thread derailed by people justifying why they didn't buy one.
Yes, I had thought similar. It is really annoying - we all know very well why people who don't own them don't want to own one. My intention with this thread was to paint the reality of living with one - which might prove they're right, or might prove they're missing out on great cars.Instead, it's just a series of McLaren bashing and piss taking. As somebody else posted, that simply didn't happen on the Aston thread I ran for 4 years of ownership.
It's early days of my ownership, and unless I have regular issues I'd expect to only update the thread every month or two - that's how the Aston thread went. But frankly, if it continues as it has been I will simply give up - the thread is utterly pointless if every post I add with the reality of ownership is followed by a dozen posts from non owners about why McLaren's are s
t and why we're all idiots for owning one.davek_964 said:
Yes, I had thought similar. It is really annoying - we all know very well why people who don't own them don't want to own one. My intention with this thread was to paint the reality of living with one - which might prove they're right, or might prove they're missing out on great cars.
Instead, it's just a series of McLaren bashing and piss taking. As somebody else posted, that simply didn't happen on the Aston thread I ran for 4 years of ownership.
It's early days of my ownership, and unless I have regular issues I'd expect to only update the thread every month or two - that's how the Aston thread went. But frankly, if it continues as it has been I will simply give up - the thread is utterly pointless if every post I add with the reality of ownership is followed by a dozen posts from non owners about why McLaren's are st and why we're all idiots for owning one.
Please don’t give up on this thread. There are some non-owners (myself included) following your journey and enjoying the frank and honest ownership experience. I am planning to own one shortly.Instead, it's just a series of McLaren bashing and piss taking. As somebody else posted, that simply didn't happen on the Aston thread I ran for 4 years of ownership.
It's early days of my ownership, and unless I have regular issues I'd expect to only update the thread every month or two - that's how the Aston thread went. But frankly, if it continues as it has been I will simply give up - the thread is utterly pointless if every post I add with the reality of ownership is followed by a dozen posts from non owners about why McLaren's are s
t and why we're all idiots for owning one.davek_964 said:
Yes, I had thought similar. It is really annoying - we all know very well why people who don't own them don't want to own one. My intention with this thread was to paint the reality of living with one - which might prove they're right, or might prove they're missing out on great cars.
Instead, it's just a series of McLaren bashing and piss taking. As somebody else posted, that simply didn't happen on the Aston thread I ran for 4 years of ownership.
It's early days of my ownership, and unless I have regular issues I'd expect to only update the thread every month or two - that's how the Aston thread went. But frankly, if it continues as it has been I will simply give up - the thread is utterly pointless if every post I add with the reality of ownership is followed by a dozen posts from non owners about why McLaren's are st and why we're all idiots for owning one.
I had prepared quite a long topic, with photo’s, about a recent fund raising event / hoon around the Cotswolds with another ten McOwners, but then thought what’s the fInstead, it's just a series of McLaren bashing and piss taking. As somebody else posted, that simply didn't happen on the Aston thread I ran for 4 years of ownership.
It's early days of my ownership, and unless I have regular issues I'd expect to only update the thread every month or two - that's how the Aston thread went. But frankly, if it continues as it has been I will simply give up - the thread is utterly pointless if every post I add with the reality of ownership is followed by a dozen posts from non owners about why McLaren's are s
t and why we're all idiots for owning one.king point. People like Andrew will just reply with some smart arsed comment, turning the post into something to suit their own agenda to slag off the McLaren brand.MAC 720S said:
I had prepared quite a long topic, with photo’s, about a recent fund raising event / hoon around the Cotswolds with another ten McOwners, but then thought what’s the fking point. People like Andrew will just reply with some smart arsed comment, turning the post into something to suit their own agenda to slag off the McLaren brand.
People like andrew can be easily ignored. He's probably quite unhappy, hence his constant only forum 'trying to be funny'/'trolling' - whatever you may call it.king point. People like Andrew will just reply with some smart arsed comment, turning the post into something to suit their own agenda to slag off the McLaren brand.apmcconv said:
Please don’t give up on this thread. There are some non-owners (myself included) following your journey and enjoying the frank and honest ownership experience. I am planning to own one shortly.
Ditto! (Perhaps I should start a thread on how my Porsche needed a new engine after 22K miles for a bit of balance ...!)
MAC 720S said:
I had prepared quite a long topic, with photo’s, about a recent fund raising event / hoon around the Cotswolds with another ten McOwners, but then thought what’s the fking point. People like Andrew will just reply with some smart arsed comment, turning the post into something to suit their own agenda to slag off the McLaren brand.
Postking point. People like Andrew will just reply with some smart arsed comment, turning the post into something to suit their own agenda to slag off the McLaren brand.
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