The truth about buying a McLaren?

The truth about buying a McLaren?

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Crazy4557

328 posts

144 months

Thursday 2nd January
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The Milfman said:
It was a good run indeed! beer

However, for some perspective, we hung back on a couple of counts; preferred to leave sensible space and avoid stone chips and preferred a slower more respectful pace through the villages. This of course meant getting stuck on a few occasions behind slower moving traffic with nowhere to safely overtake.

Rest assured the TTRS could have gone a lot faster but I preferred not to. On the quick stuff especially I didn't want to plow into the back of you under traction, so always waited for you to get going and a sensible gap. Thoroughly enjoyed the noise of the GTS though beer

Crazy4557, thanks by the way, my Mrs now wants a 600lt biglaugh
To be fair we were toeing the line through the villages, it's just we probably went through them a lot earlier than you tongue out
Appreciate your holding back though, it must be scary having to keep yourself out of the back of our cars what with so much traction, mind you we just had a laugh 'opposite locking' everywhere we went as it's common knowledge that McLarens have no traction in damp or wet conditions according to all the non owning PHer's who trash the brandrolleyes

Your Missus certainly now has great taste, might have been an expensive Sunday morning meander through the countryside for you.

The Milfman

1,107 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd January
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Apologies, my post was not worded very well, not meant as inflammatory, have deleted. All the best chaps.

jakesmith

5,980 posts

121 months

Friday 3rd January
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AndrewD said:
jayemm89 said:
I'll always be eternally grateful to Andrew for letting me sit in his CGT. Dream fulfillment moment for me.
Hey my pleasure any time thumbup
Have to be another to say, nice garage! I hope you get to drive them as much as you'd like to.

Martin-G

100 posts

45 months

Friday 3rd January
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The Milfman said:
Apologies, my post was not worded very well, not meant as inflammatory, have deleted. All the best chaps.
I don’t think it was. Always tricky at the back as easy to get separated and always be playing catch-up. Been there. Also tricky at the front trying to keep NoTax within sight. But as he says drive at your own pace as it’s a fun drive not competitive. Great to meet you all.

996t

3 posts

83 months

Monday 6th January
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RSbandit said:
Are any of you guys based in East London or London borders of Essex or Kent? .keen to get out for a drive when I’m back from hols but would be fun if could meet up with some other owners in that general area.
Hi - I'm East London, and up for a drive out this Saturday (650S coupe). Would love to join you.

jrinns

243 posts

133 months

Thursday 9th January
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I love imperfections in life, will start saving for one of these immediately....

LotusJas

963 posts

181 months

Thursday 9th January
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RSbandit said:
Are any of you guys based in East London or London borders of Essex or Kent? .keen to get out for a drive when I’m back from hols but would be fun if could meet up with some other owners in that general area.
I'm in Kent. We have a Kent WhatsApp group for meets, and any McLaren owner is welcome to join.

About the MOC, yes 100% worth joining. 95% of MOC members never post here btw. And of those that do, they do so rarely.

Gandahar

8,193 posts

78 months

Tuesday 11th February
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MG to Lotus to TVR to Mclaren. All great cars, well the last 3 at least, but all with things to buttox your stiff upper lip.

A quick question to the middle aged JayEmm, did you fear McLaren Manchester getting in touch with their solicitor ( at least for some spelling lessons ) before you posted your first vid?

I'm not sure I'd have been brave enough. OK, you got a lot of views but I guess that would not pay for a solicitor etc and you could have ended up like Mark Hales and his 917 gearbox.

Finally it makes me laugh when people say that a 40 minute youtube video is far too long. I spent 3.7 years watching Coronation street as a child just because we only had one tv. Highlight was the suspension of the MG failing on the cobble streets and Stan Ogden selling it for a Ford Cortina Crusader in a fit of pique. Now people's viewing habits are even shorter than how long it takes to cook tea. 1 minute on high. *

I remember crying out that we should all watch William Woollard only to be ignored. For a notherner the pure fact he had wool and lard in his name is a reason in itself to watch him on Top Gear. But, as the runt of the litter I was ignored.


* Apart from Harry M vids of course, they never last long enough. Shame his garage actually isn't one. Shameful deceit and just clickbait for shed builders everywhere.



Edited by Gandahar on Tuesday 11th February 14:19

jayemm89

2,495 posts

80 months

Thursday
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Yes, very much so. It is something I will address in the next video but a lot of people think I made the first ones just for profit.

The truth is, I had no idea how well they would do (and no expectation that they would do anywhere near what they did) but I *did* know that they would get me blacklisted from McLaren, probably blacklisted from Sytner and very possibly in the sights of a couple of legal teams. There's also the chance that other companies might refuse to work with me because of it, and I can tell you one trip to a solicitor would have used up my entire revenue from 2019.

I have been threatened by car companies with legal action before, but then as now I just made sure that everything I said was truthful and in that case there is very little they can do

cgt2

1,389 posts

138 months

Thursday
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Gandahar said:
MG to Lotus to TVR to Mclaren. All great cars, well the last 3 at least, but all with things to buttox your stiff upper lip.

A quick question to the middle aged JayEmm, did you fear McLaren Manchester getting in touch with their solicitor ( at least for some spelling lessons ) before you posted your first vid?

I'm not sure I'd have been brave enough. OK, you got a lot of views but I guess that would not pay for a solicitor etc and you could have ended up like Mark Hales and his 917 gearbox.

Finally it makes me laugh when people say that a 40 minute youtube video is far too long. I spent 3.7 years watching Coronation street as a child just because we only had one tv. Highlight was the suspension of the MG failing on the cobble streets and Stan Ogden selling it for a Ford Cortina Crusader in a fit of pique. Now people's viewing habits are even shorter than how long it takes to cook tea. 1 minute on high. *

I remember crying out that we should all watch William Woollard only to be ignored. For a notherner the pure fact he had wool and lard in his name is a reason in itself to watch him on Top Gear. But, as the runt of the litter I was ignored.


* Apart from Harry M vids of course, they never last long enough. Shame his garage actually isn't one. Shameful deceit and just clickbait for shed builders everywhere.



Edited by Gandahar on Tuesday 11th February 14:19
William Woollard also had incredible hair, in an alternative universe he could have been the British Donald Trump. Though not sure I can picture Mr W paying off a pornstar through a shady fixer.

Harry's videos are all I watch, for me personally he is the only one who speaks my language.

There's a simple test for me, if he makes a video about a car I have no interest in whatsoever, will I still watch it and find it entertaining, in HM's case this is a yes.


jayemm89

2,495 posts

80 months

Thursday
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cgt2 said:
Harry's videos are all I watch, for me personally he is the only one who speaks my language.
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich

EddieSteadyGo

4,242 posts

153 months

Thursday
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jayemm89 said:
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The truth is, I had no idea how well they would do (and no expectation that they would do anywhere near what they did) but I *did* know that they would get me blacklisted from McLaren, probably blacklisted from Sytner and very possibly in the sights of a couple of legal teams. There's also the chance that other companies might refuse to work with me because of it, and I can tell you one trip to a solicitor would have used up my entire revenue from 2019.
I watch and generally like your videos - I understand your reasoning for making this particular video but I thought, considering what you trying to build, the video was a little indulgent and gratuitous.

But I suppose from your post above, if you have unnecessarily burnt some bridges, at least you knew what you doing.

Kid A

41 posts

14 months

Thursday
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I'm just glad there are still people taking on car companies and exposing their hypocrisy and poor customer service.

I'm sick and tired of Youtubers sucking up to manufacturers either because they want freebies/access to cars, or because they think (perhaps rightly) that their audience just wants glowing videos without critical analysis.

I have a lot of respect for certain cars, but not very much respect for dealerships and the people within them based on my past experience, and I have a heavy disdain for the fake, sell-out culture of car reviews and car videos.

As for defamation, stick to the truth, document everything fairly and you will be fine.

Chris1712

177 posts

49 months

Thursday
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jayemm89 said:
Yes, very much so. It is something I will address in the next video but a lot of people think I made the first ones just for profit.

The truth is, I had no idea how well they would do (and no expectation that they would do anywhere near what they did) but I *did* know that they would get me blacklisted from McLaren, probably blacklisted from Sytner and very possibly in the sights of a couple of legal teams. There's also the chance that other companies might refuse to work with me because of it, and I can tell you one trip to a solicitor would have used up my entire revenue from 2019.

I have been threatened by car companies with legal action before, but then as now I just made sure that everything I said was truthful and in that case there is very little they can do
There will always be owners and viewers more interested in an accurate review and real life experience over an manufacturer sponsored launch event piss up featuring babbling influencers. With any luck McLaren will redeem themselves with time and you will be there to high five everyone.


Matty3

367 posts

34 months

Thursday
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Good to see JM's mates posting on here smile - reviving a Lazarus thread

Real life experience! - have a 570s - best supercar I have ever owned smile

Edited by Matty3 on Thursday 13th February 21:19

The Surveyor

7,113 posts

187 months

Thursday
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jayemm89 said:
Yes, very much so. It is something I will address in the next video but a lot of people think I made the first ones just for profit.

The truth is, I had no idea how well they would do (and no expectation that they would do anywhere near what they did) but I *did* know that they would get me blacklisted from McLaren, probably blacklisted from Sytner and very possibly in the sights of a couple of legal teams. There's also the chance that other companies might refuse to work with me because of it, and I can tell you one trip to a solicitor would have used up my entire revenue from 2019.

I have been threatened by car companies with legal action before, but then as now I just made sure that everything I said was truthful and in that case there is very little they can do
To be fair, neither McLaren, McLaren Manchester, or Sytner worked with you on these videos, you were just relaying the experiences of your friends rather than any direct interaction. You can't be blacklisted if you were never on their 'list' in the first place.

Out of interest, which car companies have threaten you with legal action?

johnwilliams77

6,171 posts

53 months

The Surveyor said:
To be fair, neither McLaren, McLaren Manchester, or Sytner worked with you on these videos, you were just relaying the experiences of your friends rather than any direct interaction. You can't be blacklisted if you were never on their 'list' in the first place.

Out of interest, which car companies have threaten you with legal action?
He shared that this is not just ‘friends experience as he was there for a lot of it

Desert Dragon

625 posts

34 months

cgt2 said:
Harry's videos are all I watch, for me personally he is the only one who speaks my language.
Riveting


12pack

983 posts

118 months

Indeed great that Youtubers take on the manufacturers, but I do wish they would be more professional and do background research instead of just spouting hearsay gibberish. The longer the piece, the more that becomes clear. As both a Mac and a Tesla MS owner, I can certainly say that Jayemm’s recent Model 3 piece was particularly ill-informed with about 3 minutes of content, most of it opinion vs fact. I can see that part of the problem these folks face is that can’t really live with the cars, which is a lot different then driving them around for a bit.

The Surveyor

7,113 posts

187 months

johnwilliams77 said:
The Surveyor said:
To be fair, neither McLaren, McLaren Manchester, or Sytner worked with you on these videos, you were just relaying the experiences of your friends rather than any direct interaction. You can't be blacklisted if you were never on their 'list' in the first place.

Out of interest, which car companies have threaten you with legal action?
He shared that this is not just ‘friends experience as he was there for a lot of it
In what capacity though, a journalist, a freind, a vlogger, or a consultant of some sort. He seamed sufficiently involved in all the troubles that his friends were experiencing to expect a response from McLaren, but really had no direct involvement.