Am I mad to look at a Mclaren instead of a Porsche 911?

Am I mad to look at a Mclaren instead of a Porsche 911?

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davek_964

6,732 posts

130 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Pvapour said:
davek_964 said:
650S has 3 suspension settings. It's the most comfortable car I've owned.
Thanks, but what have you owned? or are you comparing to?
Various cars - it's definitely more comfortable than the Aston Vantage it replaced, and the 911 (996) turbo I had. I even find it more comfortable than the Porsche Cayenne I have - the Cayenne is comfortable, but the 650 offers more support in the seats for me.

12pack

1,063 posts

123 months

Tuesday 16th June
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More than being a soft, the suspension in the 650 keeps the car level. So even though is actually tauter than ,e.g., my daily driver Tesla, my SO prefers the ride in the 650, as it doesn’t lean in corners and doesn’t buck over undulating surfaces.

And for aggressive driving, it keeps weight nicely distributed to your contact patches even when the roads are lairy.

Pvapour

8,794 posts

208 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Very interesting, thank you thumbup

Think I’ll put the GTC on hold until ive tested one.

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Saturday 20th June
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650spider said:
Bit of a sweeping statement there!

I think the 12c looks better every passing day and its very smooth lines are setting it up to be a future classic.

I also think that in a very short period of time the 12c shall command more money than the 5 series range.

There was a mention before that the rear of 540 etc was the new family look for the rear of McLarens, but the newest car the launched ( the GT ) has went back to the simplified rear with straight led lights.

Just because something is 'current' now does not mean it won't look dated in a few years.
Right here is my 2p for what it is worth
I think the 12C is a proper supercar and agin gracefully and will be a future classic for sure . But at the present moment the 570S has come down to a level on the used market that those like me who were looking for a useable high performance car such as an MB Gtr, Audi R8, 911 are now being lured towards the Mclaren as a once unaffordable ( for the who like to buy the car outright rather than pep/lease) car is now within range. This can only be good for the brand and hopefully will help with values.
For me I think after looking at the options I defiantly want either a 570gt/570S as that is what my heart and head says. But a car around £70-£80K , get a warranty , enjoy it as weekend car etc and see how it goes.
All the is left is to try either or both and see what suits me better (if at all ) and then it should be simple to find a car to suit.
Fingers crossed dealers will soon be open in Scotland and I should be able to get a test drive of one or 2 very soon, but no hurry as it is not as if I am short of cars lol

Pvapour

8,794 posts

208 months

Sunday 21st June
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Pvapour said:
Very interesting, thank you thumbup

Think I’ll put the GTC on hold until ive tested one.
Tested one, lovely lovely car but the GT C has more theatre and is more practical and easier to get serviced, this time the AMG won but once the uncertainty around mclaren lifts? I might be tempted as the next car.

Lee Jones Jnr

508 posts

125 months

Sunday 21st June
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Pvapour said:
Pvapour said:
Very interesting, thank you thumbup

Think I’ll put the GTC on hold until ive tested one.
Tested one, lovely lovely car but the GT C has more theatre and is more practical and easier to get serviced, this time the AMG won but once the uncertainty around mclaren lifts? I might be tempted as the next car.
Perhaps I’m not following what’s going on here very well.
A GTC has more theatre than what?

Far Cough

1,277 posts

123 months

Sunday 21st June
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EvoSid said:
......... But at the present moment the 570S has come down to a level on the used market that those like me who were looking for a useable high performance car such as an MB Gtr, Audi R8, 911 are now being lured towards the Mclaren as a once unaffordable ( for the who like to buy the car outright rather than pep/lease) car is now within range. This can only be good for the brand and hopefully will help with values.
For me I think after looking at the options I defiantly want either a 570gt/570S as that is what my heart and head says. But a car around £70-£80K , get a warranty , enjoy it as weekend car etc and see how it goes.
All the is left is to try either or both and see what suits me better (if at all ) and then it should be simple to find a car to suit.
Fingers crossed dealers will soon be open in Scotland and I should be able to get a test drive of one or 2 very soon, but no hurry as it is not as if I am short of cars lol
Totally agree with this....... I`ve been going round and round and with what you describe as useage, a nice car to own. I`ll be throwing whatever I get next round the track and the more I look into it, the 570s is going to be a pain to own. Pre trackday inspection and then post trackday inspection and I dont live anywhere near a dealer. Increased service costs and the ceramics are a bit of an unknown quantity ??

I think I have slowly come round to the fact that the heart says 570s but the head says GT3. If not going anywhere near a trackday then the 570s all day long. Just look at them !!!! The GT3 doesnt need extra attention to go on track and is also covered by warranty and only needs a service every 2 years. I`ll personally think that the residuals will be stronger too.

Its a nice decision to have and a test drive may turn all this on its head !! A 991.2GT3 is about £30k more than a decent 570s so you could argue that the £30k you have saved can be put into the extra servicing and running costs on the 570s. Hmmmmm

12pack

1,063 posts

123 months

Sunday 21st June
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Pvapour said:
Tested one, lovely lovely car but the GT C has more theatre.
Must be a theatre showing Waiting for Godot wink

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 22nd June
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Far Cough said:
Totally agree with this....... I`ve been going round and round and with what you describe as useage, a nice car to own. I`ll be throwing whatever I get next round the track and the more I look into it, the 570s is going to be a pain to own. Pre trackday inspection and then post trackday inspection and I dont live anywhere near a dealer. Increased service costs and the ceramics are a bit of an unknown quantity ??

I think I have slowly come round to the fact that the heart says 570s but the head says GT3. If not going anywhere near a trackday then the 570s all day long. Just look at them !!!! The GT3 doesnt need extra attention to go on track and is also covered by warranty and only needs a service every 2 years. I`ll personally think that the residuals will be stronger too.

Its a nice decision to have and a test drive may turn all this on its head !! A 991.2GT3 is about £30k more than a decent 570s so you could argue that the £30k you have saved can be put into the extra servicing and running costs on the 570s. Hmmmmm
I know where you are coming form. I think the extra £30k or so invested in a GT3 you will get back compared to the 570S as depreciation on the GT3 will be much slower. I think the 570GT is ideal for me or even the 570S. But lately they seem to selling faster than a 9pk of Andrex in a Pandemic. Almost all the cars I looked at 1 month ago are now sold. I wonder how many will be back on the market once BBL loan repayments, recession, higher taxes etc come into play.
For now I think I will try test driving ALL the cars that tickle my fancy,, settle on 1st choice and try getting it. not bothered if that is this year or next as I am in no hurry.
But you have got me thinking of a 991 GT3. They would be ideal if they had rear seats then it would best of both worlds, So maybe the 991 GTS is the next best thing. God knows tbh and I think. test drive will reveal all , or add more confusion. Only thing in my favour is that I cant see me ever using it on track...... famous last words lol

bennno

6,216 posts

224 months

Monday 22nd June
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Far Cough said:
EvoSid said:
......... But at the present moment the 570S has come down to a level on the used market that those like me who were looking for a useable high performance car such as an MB Gtr, Audi R8, 911 are now being lured towards the Mclaren as a once unaffordable ( for the who like to buy the car outright rather than pep/lease) car is now within range. This can only be good for the brand and hopefully will help with values.
For me I think after looking at the options I defiantly want either a 570gt/570S as that is what my heart and head says. But a car around £70-£80K , get a warranty , enjoy it as weekend car etc and see how it goes.
All the is left is to try either or both and see what suits me better (if at all ) and then it should be simple to find a car to suit.
Fingers crossed dealers will soon be open in Scotland and I should be able to get a test drive of one or 2 very soon, but no hurry as it is not as if I am short of cars lol
Totally agree with this....... I`ve been going round and round and with what you describe as useage, a nice car to own. I`ll be throwing whatever I get next round the track and the more I look into it, the 570s is going to be a pain to own. Pre trackday inspection and then post trackday inspection and I dont live anywhere near a dealer. Increased service costs and the ceramics are a bit of an unknown quantity ??

I think I have slowly come round to the fact that the heart says 570s but the head says GT3. If not going anywhere near a trackday then the 570s all day long. Just look at them !!!! The GT3 doesnt need extra attention to go on track and is also covered by warranty and only needs a service every 2 years. I`ll personally think that the residuals will be stronger too.

Its a nice decision to have and a test drive may turn all this on its head !! A 991.2GT3 is about £30k more than a decent 570s so you could argue that the £30k you have saved can be put into the extra servicing and running costs on the 570s. Hmmmmm
I went through that, having reached the conclusion I didn’t want ceramics I looked at and bought a 540c, which replaced a 718gt4. Rides better, ballistically fast in comparison, much more of an event, nose lift makes it twice as usable. Mine was 18 months old, 4K miles on clock and 50k under new price. Easy to discount a 540c but just check the power and weight specs relative to something like an f40.

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Wednesday
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bennno said:
I went through that, having reached the conclusion I didn’t want ceramics I looked at and bought a 540c, which replaced a 718gt4. Rides better, ballistically fast in comparison, much more of an event, nose lift makes it twice as usable. Mine was 18 months old, 4K miles on clock and 50k under new price. Easy to discount a 540c but just check the power and weight specs relative to something like an f40.
Still trying to get a test drive. But right now car prices going crazy as in upwards. One 570S that I saw through a link on this thread is now £10k more than it was 2 weeks ago.
Oh wellI guess Porsche it is then lol

12pack

1,063 posts

123 months

Wednesday
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EvoSid said:
Still trying to get a test drive. But right now car prices going crazy as in upwards. One 570S that I saw through a link on this thread is now £10k more than it was 2 weeks ago.
Oh wellI guess Porsche it is then lol
What - a post complaining about McLaren APPreciation? This Covid thing really has the turned the world upside down.

bennno

6,216 posts

224 months

Wednesday
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12pack said:
EvoSid said:
Still trying to get a test drive. But right now car prices going crazy as in upwards. One 570S that I saw through a link on this thread is now £10k more than it was 2 weeks ago.
Oh wellI guess Porsche it is then lol
What - a post complaining about McLaren APPreciation? This Covid thing really has the turned the world upside down.
Well priced cars do seem to be selling very quickly, think people are taking a different approach to saving for retirement vs enjoying the near future perhaps.

Matty3

641 posts

39 months

Wednesday
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bennno said:
12pack said:
EvoSid said:
Still trying to get a test drive. But right now car prices going crazy as in upwards. One 570S that I saw through a link on this thread is now £10k more than it was 2 weeks ago.
Oh wellI guess Porsche it is then lol
What - a post complaining about McLaren APPreciation? This Covid thing really has the turned the world upside down.
Well priced cars do seem to be selling very quickly, think people are taking a different approach to saving for retirement vs enjoying the near future perhaps.
There's definitely something going on. 3 weeks ago there were 23 570s spiders for sale on PH - today there are just 10 (if you take off the ones sold and under offer) smile


Edited by Matty3 on Wednesday 1st July 18:08

MAC 720S

992 posts

102 months

Wednesday
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Matty3 said:
There's definitely something going on. 3 weeks ago there were 23 570s spiders for sale on PH - today there are just 10 (if you take off the ones sold and under offer) smile


Edited by Matty3 on Wednesday 1st July 18:08
Same with 720S. Over 60 for sale a few weeks ago, now 41 on AT. Lowest I have seen it for past 12 months. I’ve noticed a splurge of new McLaren owners joining several FB groups.

12pack

1,063 posts

123 months

Wednesday
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And only 8 650s spiders...

AndM

386 posts

150 months

Wednesday
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June must be peak time for sports/supercar sales. I got my 12C in January 2019 (and still loving it) but recall watching the number on sale halve between April and July in 2018.

Good to see that Covid hasn't killed that off.

David W.

1,557 posts

164 months

Wednesday
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Jardine group show 53 cars available. I wouldn't start to worry about them running out yet.

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Wednesday
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David W. said:
Jardine group show 53 cars available. I wouldn't start to worry about them running out yet.
I think a lot of people buying a fun toy de to many factors, but summer is always a good time to sell. I think I will keep an eye on cars I like and maybe buy next year as in no hurry . But there will be plenty of cars coming up as I really fear that we are about to hit an economic cliff she in the next 6 months and this will cause hardship to many

12pack

1,063 posts

123 months

Yesterday (12:36)
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David W. said:
Jardine group show 53 cars available. I wouldn't start to worry about them running out yet.
Of which only a handful of 12 c / 650....