Am I mad to look at a Mclaren instead of a Porsche 911?

Am I mad to look at a Mclaren instead of a Porsche 911?

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EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 25th May
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RSbandit said:
I bought mine in December from a large indy dealer car had 3 months warranty remaining at the time, they kindly had the prev owner transfer it over to me so happy days it came in Useful as a couple of things came up when I had it checked over before renewing in Feb so it saved me some money.
Have you been able to or can you extend or renew the warranty and what is involved . That would open the doors on a few more cars I hope


EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 25th May
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Crazy4557 said:
Ideally you need one with lift, sports exhaust and some colour to the interior to break it up as it can be a bit monotone otherwise. Anything else will be a bonus but the above will help at resale time and don't discount the 540 as it's plenty quick enough for our roads so they'll be easier to source within your budget.
Good luck and post up some potential candidates on here if you want other opinions.
Ok I am hoping cars with those options should be easily found. Lets see what the ads come up with
I never even thought of the 540STBH., totally forgot it existed as just recently consider Mclaren as a viable purchase since prices have come down to within my budget . Prior to that all my effort and research was in 911's . But that you for reminding me and as you say any Mclaren will be quick enough for our Scottish roads tbh

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 25th May
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Targarama said:
I suggest you consider cars advertised for more, dealers are not keen to lower the advertised price but with the current economic climate I suspect a small loss may be accepted to take some stock off their hands.

FWIW I sold my 570GT (very good spec) with 15k miles on it for 86k last October. Glad I was realistic and did so (the buyer was realistic too), I expect any bids would start with a high 6 or low 7 now.
Yes that is what I was thinking but did not want to say in case people thought I was arrogant or over ambitious. My budget is flexible as well to a certain degree as I have ac couple of cars and a couple of rental properties that will be paid of this year along with some more rental income which will make this purchase possible

What percentage of advertised price is achievable. I was thinking around about 10-15% so say a £86 K car like your would now could be bought for say around £74-77k hopefully

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 25th May
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MAC 720S said:
Nose lift is essential. Everything else is personal taste. OEM sports exhaust or aftermarket exhaust would be nice. Again, personal taste and if you value the relationship with your neighbours - cold starts can be quite loud. Lots of carbon options but not essential - just jewellery.

Unless you are in a group of McLaren nerds, no one would have a clue or notice the spec. Joe Public see it as a McLaren and love it. I’ve never had any negative comments, just people of all age groups wanting to chat about it.

I had a bright yellow 570S Spyder as a loan car. Fantastic to drive.
Cold starts and loud exhaust should be ok as not got too many neighbours, just the tube that stays next door, lol.
I agree I have no clue about Mclaren spec but every time I see one I thin wow that is nice . I still like th 911 but see that as a league lower down in desirability now, no offence intended to any 911 owners
A sounder really appeals but I think I coupe would be the better choice as in the NE of Scotland you do not get many days to have the roof down lol

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 25th May
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RSbandit said:
Yeah lift, sports exhaust and for me the carbon interior with the extended paddles was something I wanted ..also the B&W upgrade to the stereo is nice to have. From what I've seen in the classifieds most cars have been sitting at the same asking prices since early March so I'm sure a cheeky bid might work.
I think you are absolutely correct as in dealers in freeze frame mode since lockdown. I believe CAP froze prices for 3 months
But as a business owner I know that cash flow is everything and even selling at a light loss to get the cashflow moving is better than going under due to a lack of cashflow. So on that basis I will be polite but firm with any bids . I have no trade in. Cash in the bank , but would like to part finance it as I can use the cash better than investing all of it in any depreciating asset.
I do like nice sounds so will look for cars with Lift, exhausted B&W sounds. Bright colours are ok but definitely not black. The rest will be base on test driving any cars I guess

EvoSid

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107 posts

18 months

Monday 25th May
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SSO said:
I just posted an article which covers 10 years of servicing costs across a range of McLarens. Costs are in line with what we send on the GT3 RS.
Hi do you have a link as I can't find this post , it sure where to look either . Please

JPCGT

160 posts

100 months

Monday 25th May
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EvoSid said:
SSO said:
I just posted an article which covers 10 years of servicing costs across a range of McLarens. Costs are in line with what we send on the GT3 RS.
Hi do you have a link as I can't find this post , it sure where to look either . Please[/quote


https://karenable.com/maintenance-costs-the-mclare...

PompeyReece

874 posts

44 months

Monday 25th May
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EvoSid said:
Hi do you have a link as I can't find this post , it sure where to look either . Please
https://karenable.com/maintenance-costs-the-mclarens/

650spider

1,008 posts

126 months

Monday 25th May
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EvoSid said:
RSbandit said:
I bought mine in December from a large indy dealer car had 3 months warranty remaining at the time, they kindly had the prev owner transfer it over to me so happy days it came in Useful as a couple of things came up when I had it checked over before renewing in Feb so it saved me some money.
Have you been able to or can you extend or renew the warranty and what is involved . That would open the doors on a few more cars I hope
The current owner of the vehicle / extended warranty just contacts the warranty provider and registers the new owners details; this does not cost anything and thereafter the warranty stays on the vehicle with the new keepers details.

Regards to spider, i am east coast of Scotland and have the roof down on almost every journey i make unless its hosing down with rain...and i use it most days.

Roof takes about 17 secs and operates upto around 25mph...honestly, i wouldn't dismiss a spider and there is no scuttle shake like almost every other convertible out there due to the carbon tub.

If you fancy a wee trip, p/m me and maybe we can meet up...let you have a shot of my 650 spider if you desire.

It shall change your perception for ever of what is fast, and contrary to what others say, you shall in no sense whatsover think of it as boring.


justin220

4,377 posts

159 months

Monday 25th May
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^Never realised you were Scotland.. Me too!

Which part? We should get a run out sometime

650spider

1,008 posts

126 months

Monday 25th May
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justin220 said:
^Never realised you were Scotland.. Me too!

Which part? We should get a run out sometime
Definitely!

I am down in Broughty Ferry...i am sometimes up your way as my bestie is out at Bridge of Don.

Few macs here local to me...white 540, black 570, purple 570 spider, black 675LT spider and a red and black senna.


Targarama

14,289 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th May
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EvoSid said:
Targarama said:
I suggest you consider cars advertised for more, dealers are not keen to lower the advertised price but with the current economic climate I suspect a small loss may be accepted to take some stock off their hands.

FWIW I sold my 570GT (very good spec) with 15k miles on it for 86k last October. Glad I was realistic and did so (the buyer was realistic too), I expect any bids would start with a high 6 or low 7 now.
Yes that is what I was thinking but did not want to say in case people thought I was arrogant or over ambitious. My budget is flexible as well to a certain degree as I have ac couple of cars and a couple of rental properties that will be paid of this year along with some more rental income which will make this purchase possible

What percentage of advertised price is achievable. I was thinking around about 10-15% so say a £86 K car like your would now could be bought for say around £74-77k hopefully
No idea, but at least the buyer has the upper hand at the moment. Just make sure they know you're a serious buyer and not a 'give you £500 for it' chancer. Key is warranty for a used purchase IMO. Factory warranty at this age is bumper-to-bumper so even if you discover an issue 500 miles down the road it is covered, assuming the warranty/service history are intact.

Bispal

673 posts

106 months

Tuesday 26th May
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EvoSid said:
Targarama said:
I suggest you consider cars advertised for more, dealers are not keen to lower the advertised price but with the current economic climate I suspect a small loss may be accepted to take some stock off their hands.

FWIW I sold my 570GT (very good spec) with 15k miles on it for 86k last October. Glad I was realistic and did so (the buyer was realistic too), I expect any bids would start with a high 6 or low 7 now.
Yes that is what I was thinking but did not want to say in case people thought I was arrogant or over ambitious. My budget is flexible as well to a certain degree as I have ac couple of cars and a couple of rental properties that will be paid of this year along with some more rental income which will make this purchase possible

What percentage of advertised price is achievable. I was thinking around about 10-15% so say a £86 K car like your would now could be bought for say around £74-77k hopefully
Its not as simple as that! Some sellers are motivated, some are not. I have a car for sale at the moment and if there are no offers very close to my asking price then I will keep it. There is no point selling now for a massive loss unless you have no choice. Many sellers will wait or just retain what they have, there is no set percentage or range as there is no 2 sellers are in the same position.






650spider

1,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 26th May
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Bispal said:
EvoSid said:
Targarama said:
I suggest you consider cars advertised for more, dealers are not keen to lower the advertised price but with the current economic climate I suspect a small loss may be accepted to take some stock off their hands.

FWIW I sold my 570GT (very good spec) with 15k miles on it for 86k last October. Glad I was realistic and did so (the buyer was realistic too), I expect any bids would start with a high 6 or low 7 now.
Yes that is what I was thinking but did not want to say in case people thought I was arrogant or over ambitious. My budget is flexible as well to a certain degree as I have ac couple of cars and a couple of rental properties that will be paid of this year along with some more rental income which will make this purchase possible

What percentage of advertised price is achievable. I was thinking around about 10-15% so say a £86 K car like your would now could be bought for say around £74-77k hopefully
Its not as simple as that! Some sellers are motivated, some are not. I have a car for sale at the moment and if there are no offers very close to my asking price then I will keep it. There is no point selling now for a massive loss unless you have no choice. Many sellers will wait or just retain what they have, there is no set percentage or range as there is no 2 sellers are in the same position.
I contacted Sytner about replacing my wives car with a slighty newer version about 3 weeks ago.

Price was pretty near ballpark of what you are talking about and the max they would knock off for straight sale was £500.00...i thought i had misheard but nope...£500.00 and that was all they were willing to drop.

Might change in a few months, but as bispal says, not all sellers need to cut their throat for a sale; even dealers.

I felt that they would of jumped at a sale with £5k off the price in the current climate; they didn't and it was snapped up whilst i pissed about.

Was / am a little bit annoyed with myself as spec was bang on.


Meeten-5dulx

595 posts

11 months

Tuesday 26th May
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650spider said:
Definitely!

I am down in Broughty Ferry...i am sometimes up your way as my bestie is out at Bridge of Don.

Few macs here local to me...white 540, black 570, purple 570 spider, black 675LT spider and a red and black senna.
Good luck with the purchase.
I'm a few miles up the A9 and would live to see your new motor.

Not seen a Senna round here, bit on a day like today it would be great to play with up the road to Braemar....

Bispal

673 posts

106 months

Wednesday 27th May
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650spider said:
Bispal said:
EvoSid said:
Targarama said:
I suggest you consider cars advertised for more, dealers are not keen to lower the advertised price but with the current economic climate I suspect a small loss may be accepted to take some stock off their hands.

FWIW I sold my 570GT (very good spec) with 15k miles on it for 86k last October. Glad I was realistic and did so (the buyer was realistic too), I expect any bids would start with a high 6 or low 7 now.
Yes that is what I was thinking but did not want to say in case people thought I was arrogant or over ambitious. My budget is flexible as well to a certain degree as I have ac couple of cars and a couple of rental properties that will be paid of this year along with some more rental income which will make this purchase possible

What percentage of advertised price is achievable. I was thinking around about 10-15% so say a £86 K car like your would now could be bought for say around £74-77k hopefully
Its not as simple as that! Some sellers are motivated, some are not. I have a car for sale at the moment and if there are no offers very close to my asking price then I will keep it. There is no point selling now for a massive loss unless you have no choice. Many sellers will wait or just retain what they have, there is no set percentage or range as there is no 2 sellers are in the same position.
I contacted Sytner about replacing my wives car with a slighty newer version about 3 weeks ago.

Price was pretty near ballpark of what you are talking about and the max they would knock off for straight sale was £500.00...i thought i had misheard but nope...£500.00 and that was all they were willing to drop.

Might change in a few months, but as bispal says, not all sellers need to cut their throat for a sale; even dealers.

I felt that they would of jumped at a sale with £5k off the price in the current climate; they didn't and it was snapped up whilst i pissed about.

Was / am a little bit annoyed with myself as spec was bang on.
Yup I have played hard ball when dealers won't drop and lost ideal spec cars and had to compromise. My mantra now is if you see a car in your perfect spec buy it, obviously negotiate to an extent, but you may not see a car like the one you want again and its not worth losing for a few thousand pounds. I pounced on a car I saw last year for sale and offered full asking price as I thought it was a fair price i was happy with. I didn't even negotiate (not like me) as the spec was a once in a lifetime. I the first 2 weeks of ownership I was contacted 3 times by people who wanted it when it was available, but hesitated, all offering me more than I paid. Same again for a car I bought in Jan this year. I waited 2 years for the right spec to come up then pounced. I negotiated a bit but once I had the car I had 2 offers for it in a week from people who had procrastinated. The early bird catches the worm and nothing has changed right now. If you want something and are happy with the price just buy it and enjoy it!





Far Cough

1,277 posts

123 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Good thread and quite enlightening. I am looking for a GT3 and keeping an eye on the market at the moment. I did not even consider a Maclaren as I presumed they would be over budget. Looking at 540' & 570's now. Are they really an alternative to a GT3 that does road trips and trackdays ??

Adam B

18,268 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Bispal said:
I pounced on a car I saw last year for sale and offered full asking price as I thought it was a fair price i was happy with. I didn't even negotiate (not like me) as the spec was a once in a lifetime. I the first 2 weeks of ownership I was contacted 3 times by people who wanted it when it was available, but hesitated, all offering me more than I paid.

Same again for a car I bought in Jan this year. I waited 2 years for the right spec to come up then pounced. I negotiated a bit but once I had the car I had 2 offers for it in a week from people who had procrastinated.
out of curiosity what were these 2 cars?

RSbandit

1,104 posts

87 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Bispal said:
Yup I have played hard ball when dealers won't drop and lost ideal spec cars and had to compromise. My mantra now is if you see a car in your perfect spec buy it, obviously negotiate to an extent, but you may not see a car like the one you want again and its not worth losing for a few thousand pounds. I pounced on a car I saw last year for sale and offered full asking price as I thought it was a fair price i was happy with. I didn't even negotiate (not like me) as the spec was a once in a lifetime. I the first 2 weeks of ownership I was contacted 3 times by people who wanted it when it was available, but hesitated, all offering me more than I paid. Same again for a car I bought in Jan this year. I waited 2 years for the right spec to come up then pounced. I negotiated a bit but once I had the car I had 2 offers for it in a week from people who had procrastinated. The early bird catches the worm and nothing has changed right now. If you want something and are happy with the price just buy it and enjoy it!
Would tend to agree with this sentiment, bought my 570s back in Dec spec was spot on for me and it was a fair price still managed to negotiate a little bit and dealer was happy to meet me in the middle deal done a day after the car was advertised, haven't seen another car since then with my full desired spec. I remember a pal saw a car he was interested in ideal spec etc and a really good price but he was determined to haggle on it...I had pointed out that the price was right and he shouldn't worry about a couple of K if he really liked the car...he quickly lost out to someone else on it.

EC2

1,041 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th May
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650spider said:
justin220 said:
^Never realised you were Scotland.. Me too!

Which part? We should get a run out sometime
Definitely!

I am down in Broughty Ferry...i am sometimes up your way as my bestie is out at Bridge of Don.

Few macs here local to me...white 540, black 570, purple 570 spider, black 675LT spider and a red and black senna.
I'm in the cheaper seats - V8 from Modena - but am always amazed how many McLarens there are around Dundee especially with so few tunnels to play in!