Is the Mclaren 600 LT Spider the most desirable sub 200k?

Is the Mclaren 600 LT Spider the most desirable sub 200k?

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Gibbo205

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210 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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hajaba123 said:
Saw it at Bicester last Saturday, love it and a dream next car

I was going to ask your view on the differences between it and the Exige (I've got a V6S) but you were just about to dive into a tray of chips
The 600 is like a big Lotus.
The steering as good feel wise but more pleasant due to some power assist.
Front end on 600 is better.
Interior in another league.

The 600 for me is an upgrade in every way over my Exige 410, only negatives are it cost double and insurance is higher and running cost are higher.

I don’t miss the Exige and as a hardcore track car my Caterham was more fun than the Exige if a tad slower lap time wise but it’s about fun. On the road the McLaren is in another league it’s exotic, an event, just go drive one you won’t regret it but I’d advise a warranty which is £5600 for two years from McLaren I got a discount down to £4691 so good as it’s better than Ferrari warranty.

Gibbo205

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210 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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mikebradford said:
That red LT s a fantastic looking car
Thank you it’s the only MSO one in U.K. and I believe there is one more in U.K. but none MSO.

Supposedly and confirmed by the options list I was shown Volcano Red was not an option for the 600 but as in the case of my car the customer made a special request.

Gibbo205

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Friday 18th August 2023
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HIS LM said:
Since when was the 720 cheaper than the 600 ?
Quite a few advertised lower and trade much lower.

Also think McLaren made far more 720’s compared to 600’s, the newer 750S might help stop 720S dropping any more as the 750S price is rather crazy.

andrew

10,008 posts

195 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Gibbo205 said:
The 600 is like a big Lotus.
at the millbrook 570 launch bash, a quick arms-raised poll indicated that slightly more than half the mclaren staff present were ex-hethel


hajaba123

1,307 posts

178 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Gibbo205 said:
The 600 is like a big Lotus.
The steering as good feel wise but more pleasant due to some power assist.
Front end on 600 is better.
Interior in another league.

The 600 for me is an upgrade in every way over my Exige 410, only negatives are it cost double and insurance is higher and running cost are higher.

I don’t miss the Exige and as a hardcore track car my Caterham was more fun than the Exige if a tad slower lap time wise but it’s about fun. On the road the McLaren is in another league it’s exotic, an event, just go drive one you won’t regret it but I’d advise a warranty which is £5600 for two years from McLaren I got a discount down to £4691 so good as it’s better than Ferrari warranty.
Thank you, it’s on the to do list!


Edited by hajaba123 on Saturday 19th August 08:05

fridaypassion

8,820 posts

231 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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HIS LM said:
Since when was the 720 cheaper than the 600 ?
The equivalent 720 was 10k cheaper when I bought 15/16 months back I think that gap is wider now may be up to 20k depending of course on the two cars you compare.

EK993

1,932 posts

254 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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I totally agree with your sentiment on the 600LT, Gibbo. I had a 570S Coupe from 2019 through to 2021, never really liked the car, sure it was fast but it just left me totally cold from a driver engagement perspective. I seldom just wanted to get in it and go for a drive and I was pretty happy to sell it at peak Covid pricing in December 2021.

I wanted something more visceral and raw and had been looking at the 430 Scud. I couldn’t get over paying so much for a 14 year old car though. As I still loved the look of the Sport Series I decided to take another look at McLaren, bought a 600LT Spider and am totally in love with it, it provides all the visceral and raw thrills I was looking for, and that were missing in the 570S Coupe.

I live in the US where the prices of cars are hugely inflated, I paid close to $300k for a 1400 mile Mauvine Blue car with carbon fenders, I could have had a 720S for the same money but have no interest in that model. For me it would be the same story as the 570S, even more insanely fast but lacking driver engagement. I probably could have had a 675LT for that money as well, but that generation of super series just doesn’t appeal to me for some reason, I just don’t like the shape and not keen on the thought of upkeep and expenditure when the complicated tech needs fixing. It must be an incredible drive though in terms of driver involvement.

So for me, the 600LT is the one, unless I found myself in the position to be able to afford a Senna!


Gibbo205

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Saturday 19th August 2023
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EK993 said:
I totally agree with your sentiment on the 600LT, Gibbo. I had a 570S Coupe from 2019 through to 2021, never really liked the car, sure it was fast but it just left me totally cold from a driver engagement perspective. I seldom just wanted to get in it and go for a drive and I was pretty happy to sell it at peak Covid pricing in December 2021.

I wanted something more visceral and raw and had been looking at the 430 Scud. I couldn’t get over paying so much for a 14 year old car though. As I still loved the look of the Sport Series I decided to take another look at McLaren, bought a 600LT Spider and am totally in love with it, it provides all the visceral and raw thrills I was looking for, and that were missing in the 570S Coupe.

I live in the US where the prices of cars are hugely inflated, I paid close to $300k for a 1400 mile Mauvine Blue car with carbon fenders, I could have had a 720S for the same money but have no interest in that model. For me it would be the same story as the 570S, even more insanely fast but lacking driver engagement. I probably could have had a 675LT for that money as well, but that generation of super series just doesn’t appeal to me for some reason, I just don’t like the shape and not keen on the thought of upkeep and expenditure when the complicated tech needs fixing. It must be an incredible drive though in terms of driver involvement.

So for me, the 600LT is the one, unless I found myself in the position to be able to afford a Senna!

Just want to say I absolutely love your car, amazing colour and spec.

I’m glad you get it, faster does not always mean better and for reasons I’ve explained which you have explained well the 600 is far more visceral and engaging than other models in the range which for me coming from GT3’s and Lotus made the 600 the easy choice plus for me it’s one of the best looking McLaren’s with top exit exhaust and best sounding.

If you get chance go test drive an Artura just make sure you drive one with everything in track as I found it a fun drive just not keen on the looks or sound and of course no Spider yet but that’s coming next year I believe.

RSbandit

2,659 posts

135 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Love that colour …I went from a 570s coupe also , I really liked that car tbh but the 600 is another level alright especially in Spider form. I bought mine at a distance but dealer had a great rep which gave me confidence, I knew after 5 mins in the car I’d made the right choice. US prices are substantially higher than the UK which makes them look like a relative bargain this side of the water.

fridaypassion

8,820 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Pricing trends often follow the USA we saw this with the 458. We can hope!

I had previously driven a 570 on a couple of occasions I was interested to see the difference and my mind was blown. It's hard to believe they are related. The 600 has much stiffer engine mounts keener steering and a huge sense of occasion. Far more raw and those ignition cut gear shifts are just plain silly!


HIS LM

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262 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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fridaypassion said:
The equivalent 720 was 10k cheaper when I bought 15/16 months back I think that gap is wider now may be up to 20k depending of course on the two cars you compare.
Given the headline of this thread I was talking about Spiders, I have no interest in a coupe.

fridaypassion

8,820 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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The premium for the 720 Spider is interesting for sure. Its quite a gulf where its only 10-20k on the 600.

Although I make my living selling convertible sports cars I wasn't fussed for having a Spider. You do actually loose a slight bit of headroom in the Spider and with a heltmet on it was more comfortable in the coupe for me. Theres a lot made of the dropdown rear window in the Spider but really its more than loud enough on the 600 Coupe due to the lack of any sound deadening. Also because McLaren theres a bit less to go wrong not having the roof mech and rear window.

One negative I have thought of is the drone horrible noise the 600 makes on the motorway I have a long drive to do tomorrow so will be packing the headphones! Its certainly a car more suited to hooning around the backroads.

Wheelspinning

1,399 posts

33 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Nuttbelle said:
Not knocking the sport series 600LT but the 675LT was massively over engineered for its price point to launch the halo LT sub brand.
Mclaren really went overboard using many P1 parts to make it exceptional and as many reviewers commented at time its a mini P1 but more fun.

Being the original very limited LT Road car it is an iconic car and future classic guaranteed, 2 things the 600LT won't be.

The banned F1 technology of active aero and hydraulic suspension sets the 675LT apart from the 600LT and puts it in a totally different league IMHO.
The top exit exhausts are nice but the pops and bangs from the inconel 675LT exhaust are equally amazing

Don't get me wrong, value for money the 600LT is better at £150k but apart from that it's the 675LT all the way.
The 600LT struggled to sell due to over production and hence some of the crazy PCP deals thar were going round to shift them.
As a result there was a glut of cars on the market 2 years later which hit residuals hard.

Thankfully they have rebounded to closer to where the car should sit given all its merits but I dont see the increase continuing any further due to the volumes of cars made

Edited by Nuttbelle on Friday 18th August 18:26
Welcome back Rambo.

mogg

258 posts

261 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Gibbo205 said:
HIS LM said:
Err no the 720 spider beats it hands down imho
Yes it’s faster but I was not excited when I’ve driven them and I’ve driven two coupes and a Spider now, very impressive machines but I just found them boring on the road to drive and enjoy, only come alive at very high speeds, I just prefer passive suspension setup and firmer ride. The 600 LT is slower by some margin on paper but for me it’s a more thrilling drive if we are
Somewhat respecting speed limits and it sounds way better.

There is no wrong McLaren but my money went on the I enjoyed to drive the most on the road.
+1. I don't think I'd go as far as to use the word 'boring' but after test driving both, for me it was immediately very clear the 600LT Spider was the one - so much more joy to drive / drama / theatre. Having previously owned 410 S and 991.1 GT3RS, both of which were great, the LT is more engaging for me. The icing on the cake would be if the value remains buoyant thumbup

PinkHouse

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60 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Wheelspinning said:
Welcome back Rambo.
Why did he leave in the first place? Not familiar with the PH history on this one but he seems quite knowledgeable in the threads he's contributed to

mogg

258 posts

261 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Gibbo205 said:
HIS LM said:
Err no the 720 spider beats it hands down imho
Yes it’s faster but I was not excited when I’ve driven them and I’ve driven two coupes and a Spider now, very impressive machines but I just found them boring on the road to drive and enjoy, only come alive at very high speeds, I just prefer passive suspension setup and firmer ride. The 600 LT is slower by some margin on paper but for me it’s a more thrilling drive if we are
Somewhat respecting speed limits and it sounds way better.

There is no wrong McLaren but my money went on the I enjoyed to drive the most on the road.
+1. I don't think I'd go as far as to use the word 'boring' but after test driving both, for me it was immediately very clear the 600LT Spider was the one - so much more joy to drive / drama / theatre. Having previously owned 410 S and 991.1 GT3RS, both of which were great, the LT is more engaging for me. The icing on the cake would be if the value remains buoyant thumbup

Olivera

7,400 posts

242 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Gibbo205 said:
The 600 for me is an upgrade in every way over my Exige 410
600LT is an impressive vehicle, but to me it will always be inferior to an Exige due to the lack of manual gearbox and hence driver involvement.

r o n n i e

372 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Olivera said:
600LT is an impressive vehicle, but to me it will always be inferior to an Exige due to the lack of manual gearbox and hence driver involvement.
The manual box GMA T.50 is also superior to the 600LT.

I love good logic.

r o n n i e

372 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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PinkHouse said:
Wheelspinning said:
Welcome back Rambo.
Why did he leave in the first place? Not familiar with the PH history on this one but he seems quite knowledgeable in the threads he's contributed to
Rambo feel free to correct, originally it was for your racist posts right?

Then it was for running multiple accounts.

I don’t think it was for being a Walter Mitty.

Nuttbelle Rambo, please do correct if that is not true.

r o n n i e

372 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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EK993 said:

Wow! Amazing car