Model 3 UK orders.

Model 3 UK orders.

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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

269 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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manracer said:
Yes Rob, I did smile

It doesn't appear to regen or brake below 5mph as per pre update.

I've noticed it some times applies the brakes from around 50mph quite harshly just now, strange.
Check again, I thought it was on but it wasn't

Smiljan

11,598 posts

212 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Sambucket said:
No I’m just making it up as I go along.
rofl Like the rest of us.

I'll ask next week at the Ascot event as I'm now suspicious it'll be a timeshare esq sales pitch and I'll end up locked in a tiny room until I buy an inventory stock car.

Something doesn't add up though having excess cars when there is reportedly massive demand and waiting lists. Why not just make those customers happy by putting these cars in the hands of customers who are waiting?

manracer

1,548 posts

112 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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RobDickinson said:
manracer said:
Yes Rob, I did smile

It doesn't appear to regen or brake below 5mph as per pre update.

I've noticed it some times applies the brakes from around 50mph quite harshly just now, strange.
Check again, I thought it was on but it wasn't
What the hell?

I did check again and it wasn't on!

What's that about? I specifically remember setting it to HOLD!

Just finishing a supercharger session right now so I'll report back shirtly

Smiljan

11,598 posts

212 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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That's weird, I just looked again and there are only 11 cars in inventory now. Maybe someone from Tesla has been reading our ramblings.

anonymous-user

69 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Afaik There are no spare cars Waiting in delivery centres. The Inventory is in transit or at port.

I sold my shares due to similar conclusions re price cuts etc but I was dead wrong. I now think it is just games to maximise asp and order book. Inventory turns over quickly.

SWoll

20,465 posts

273 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Inventory cars are usually those that haven't been matched to an existing order.

Having been watching the inventory for a couple of months they are almost always LR models (definitely least popular as too close in price to the Performance that offers a lot more for the money) and often fitted with optional 19" wheels, FSD, tow hitches, white interior or expensive optional paint. You'll never see a standard white car with black interior and no other options in there.

All down to Tesla's odd "build a load of different cars, ship them and then hope they match someone's order" approach. And in the most part they definitly disappear quick enough for people who decide to change from a ordered car to beat the list.



Edited by SWoll on Friday 15th November 19:24

ZesPak

25,483 posts

211 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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As said, even 20 cars is less than 1% of monthly orders. Plenty of reasons why people might have bailed on their order. To say it doesn't gel with the wait list is just silly.

I did the simple maths, assuming wheels and FSD can be changed post production, there's about 50 different configurations. All of them sellable, but I can imagine they can't always directly fill in another order.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

111 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Smiljan said:
Thanks Sam. Do you work for Tesla to get this insight?
The 3000 figure is real, the sales are published every month. That's apparently Tesla at max capacity for the UK at the moment.. hope they are ramping that up for the BIK rate next year!

Smiljan

11,598 posts

212 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Thanks JJ, we were discussing the inventory stock really though mainly.

Can you point me to where Tesla publish UK sales, I haven't seen anything myself.

Smiljan

11,598 posts

212 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Closest I've found it the SMMT figures, Oct 2019 3162 Battery Electric Vehicles.

If the Model 3 figure of 3000 is correct that leaves just 162 Zoe,Leaf i3, Kona, Niro, Soul, Model S, Model X etc...

Seems a little low given the demand for EV's at the moment..

I know car sales are struggling at the moment but that doesn't seem right. End of year is still looking like more diesels sold each month than BEVs sell in an entire year.

That shift is slowly happening, I'd expect Oct next year will see a real shift from diesel to EV given the tax breaks?

Edited by Smiljan on Friday 15th November 20:21

anonymous-user

69 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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1st month of the quarter routinely very low vs last month which sees bulk of sales.

coetzeeh

2,821 posts

251 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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jjwilde said:
Smiljan said:
Thanks Sam. Do you work for Tesla to get this insight?
The 3000 figure is real, the sales are published every month. That's apparently Tesla at max capacity for the UK at the moment.. hope they are ramping that up for the BIK rate next year!
SMMT report Tesla under "other imports" - circa 9400 year to date and 550 in October.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

269 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Seriously, I know its city driving but 83wh/km, new hold mode is great in normal driving, never touched the brake once (outside drive select).

Evanivitch

24,237 posts

137 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Smiljan said:
Closest I've found it the SMMT figures, Oct 2019 3162 Battery Electric Vehicles.

If the Model 3 figure of 3000 is correct that leaves just 162 Zoe,Leaf i3, Kona, Niro, Soul, Model S, Model X etc...

Seems a little low given the demand for EV's at the moment..

I know car sales are struggling at the moment but that doesn't seem right. End of year is still looking like more diesels sold each month than BEVs sell in an entire year.

That shift is slowly happening, I'd expect Oct next year will see a real shift from diesel to EV given the tax breaks?

Edited by Smiljan on Friday 15th November 20:21
New Zoe due soon, Korean twins are like hens teeth, MG ZS might be another big seller if supply is good.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

269 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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I think you will find supply of the korean twins to increase start of 2020 with the fleet emissions rules, Kia have already decided not to supply Australia with any because of Europe.

2020 will see the new Zoe, e208, corsa-e, ID3 etc etc plenty of cars that should have decent supply.

Evanivitch

24,237 posts

137 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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RobDickinson said:
I think you will find supply of the korean twins to increase start of 2020 with the fleet emissions rules, Kia have already decided not to supply Australia with any because of Europe.

2020 will see the new Zoe, e208, corsa-e, ID3 etc etc plenty of cars that should have decent supply.
Of only the Ampera-E (Bolt) was in the UK frown

giorgoxxi

13 posts

139 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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jjwilde said:
The 3000 figure is real, the sales are published every month. That's apparently Tesla at max capacity for the UK at the moment.. hope they are ramping that up for the BIK rate next year!
Even in their best month (August), Tesla only managed around 2000 registrations of the Model 3 in the UK. Last October it was down to around 550 across their 3 models currently on sale. The fact that, according to their website, you can order a Model 3 today and get it delivered by December indicates they are nowhere near max. capacity (try to get a factory order from another brand delivered within a month!).

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

269 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Most other brands have on average 90 days worth of stock sitting round, unless you order something they dont have ready.

In fact Jaguar have more iPace hanging around in dealers in USA than they have sold in the last 12 months and there is something like 12 months supply of etron already sitting around.

MOBB

4,054 posts

142 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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giorgoxxi said:
jjwilde said:
The 3000 figure is real, the sales are published every month. That's apparently Tesla at max capacity for the UK at the moment.. hope they are ramping that up for the BIK rate next year!
Even in their best month (August), Tesla only managed around 2000 registrations of the Model 3 in the UK. Last October it was down to around 550 across their 3 models currently on sale. The fact that, according to their website, you can order a Model 3 today and get it delivered by December indicates they are nowhere near max. capacity (try to get a factory order from another brand delivered within a month!).
Tesla don’t really do factory orders as such, they just churn cars out, ship them and match them to people.

Not necessarily in a fair order though, I got mine after 3 weeks, some people ordered the same car months and months ago and are yet to get a car

Chaos, but the car is fantastic

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

269 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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UK order for the model 3 is
SR+ February
LR December
Perf December


IMO they have ample battery supply (given they are sending packs to China for GF3 production) and want to make/sell as many higher end non SR+ vehicles as they can.