Model 3 UK orders.

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RobDickinson

30,790 posts

212 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Did you switch it on?

manracer

1,227 posts

55 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Smiljan said:
manracer said:
my friend placed an order for a blue LR with white interior and aero wheels, hes been waiting a few months, I noticed there were similar cars in the new inventory albeit with the 20 inch wheels, he didnt mind the bigger wheels so i encouraged him to call up - the tesla process has been comical, hes had to place a second £2k deposit to get the car, then hes been told because the wheels are different he needed to place a 3rd order but select wire transfer as that gives you 24hrs to transfer the money in order to get the car - its madness and its this side of tesla that is shocking, - surely they have backend systems to enable them to do this?
There's around 20 Model 3's in the new inventory currently. I can only assume they're cars that were rejected at pick up and subsequently repaired as demand is crazy and they can't keep up with RHD deliveries.

Would it be a real gamble to buy one of those now rather than wait a few weeks for a new car?
Tesla told him it's at the docks in Southampton and awaiting delivery to Stockport.

manracer

1,227 posts

55 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Did you switch it on?
Yes Rob, I did smile

It doesn't appear to regen or brake below 5mph as per pre update.

I've noticed it some times applies the brakes from around 50mph quite harshly just now, strange.

Smiljan

7,773 posts

155 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Sambucket said:
If you look in waiting rooms, there are tons of reservation holders waiting impatiently. For deliveries. Some give up and switch to inventory but many don’t. So any inventory sale is basically an extra sale for Tesla. It’s a slightly different kind of buyer. Also tends to be mostly higher margins cars AWD or FSD.

Also half the inventory cars are not even in the country yet. You can call up and ask.

Tesla sell 3000 a month in the U.K.
Thanks Sam. Do you work for Tesla to get this insight?

anonymous-user

12 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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No I’m just making it up as I go along.

RobDickinson

30,790 posts

212 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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manracer said:
Yes Rob, I did smile

It doesn't appear to regen or brake below 5mph as per pre update.

I've noticed it some times applies the brakes from around 50mph quite harshly just now, strange.
Check again, I thought it was on but it wasn't

Smiljan

7,773 posts

155 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Sambucket said:
No I’m just making it up as I go along.
rofl Like the rest of us.

I'll ask next week at the Ascot event as I'm now suspicious it'll be a timeshare esq sales pitch and I'll end up locked in a tiny room until I buy an inventory stock car.

Something doesn't add up though having excess cars when there is reportedly massive demand and waiting lists. Why not just make those customers happy by putting these cars in the hands of customers who are waiting?

manracer

1,227 posts

55 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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RobDickinson said:
manracer said:
Yes Rob, I did smile

It doesn't appear to regen or brake below 5mph as per pre update.

I've noticed it some times applies the brakes from around 50mph quite harshly just now, strange.
Check again, I thought it was on but it wasn't
What the hell?

I did check again and it wasn't on!

What's that about? I specifically remember setting it to HOLD!

Just finishing a supercharger session right now so I'll report back shirtly

Smiljan

7,773 posts

155 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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That's weird, I just looked again and there are only 11 cars in inventory now. Maybe someone from Tesla has been reading our ramblings.

anonymous-user

12 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Afaik There are no spare cars Waiting in delivery centres. The Inventory is in transit or at port.

I sold my shares due to similar conclusions re price cuts etc but I was dead wrong. I now think it is just games to maximise asp and order book. Inventory turns over quickly.

SWoll

9,978 posts

216 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Inventory cars are usually those that haven't been matched to an existing order.

Having been watching the inventory for a couple of months they are almost always LR models (definitely least popular as too close in price to the Performance that offers a lot more for the money) and often fitted with optional 19" wheels, FSD, tow hitches, white interior or expensive optional paint. You'll never see a standard white car with black interior and no other options in there.

All down to Tesla's odd "build a load of different cars, ship them and then hope they match someone's order" approach. And in the most part they definitly disappear quick enough for people who decide to change from a ordered car to beat the list.



Edited by SWoll on Friday 15th November 19:24

ZesPak

20,889 posts

154 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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As said, even 20 cars is less than 1% of monthly orders. Plenty of reasons why people might have bailed on their order. To say it doesn't gel with the wait list is just silly.

I did the simple maths, assuming wheels and FSD can be changed post production, there's about 50 different configurations. All of them sellable, but I can imagine they can't always directly fill in another order.

jjwilde

1,428 posts

54 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Smiljan said:
Thanks Sam. Do you work for Tesla to get this insight?
The 3000 figure is real, the sales are published every month. That's apparently Tesla at max capacity for the UK at the moment.. hope they are ramping that up for the BIK rate next year!

Smiljan

7,773 posts

155 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Thanks JJ, we were discussing the inventory stock really though mainly.

Can you point me to where Tesla publish UK sales, I haven't seen anything myself.

Smiljan

7,773 posts

155 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Closest I've found it the SMMT figures, Oct 2019 3162 Battery Electric Vehicles.

If the Model 3 figure of 3000 is correct that leaves just 162 Zoe,Leaf i3, Kona, Niro, Soul, Model S, Model X etc...

Seems a little low given the demand for EV's at the moment..

I know car sales are struggling at the moment but that doesn't seem right. End of year is still looking like more diesels sold each month than BEVs sell in an entire year.

That shift is slowly happening, I'd expect Oct next year will see a real shift from diesel to EV given the tax breaks?

Edited by Smiljan on Friday 15th November 20:21

anonymous-user

12 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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1st month of the quarter routinely very low vs last month which sees bulk of sales.

coetzeeh

2,173 posts

194 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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jjwilde said:
Smiljan said:
Thanks Sam. Do you work for Tesla to get this insight?
The 3000 figure is real, the sales are published every month. That's apparently Tesla at max capacity for the UK at the moment.. hope they are ramping that up for the BIK rate next year!
SMMT report Tesla under "other imports" - circa 9400 year to date and 550 in October.

RobDickinson

30,790 posts

212 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Seriously, I know its city driving but 83wh/km, new hold mode is great in normal driving, never touched the brake once (outside drive select).

Evanivitch

7,078 posts

80 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Smiljan said:
Closest I've found it the SMMT figures, Oct 2019 3162 Battery Electric Vehicles.

If the Model 3 figure of 3000 is correct that leaves just 162 Zoe,Leaf i3, Kona, Niro, Soul, Model S, Model X etc...

Seems a little low given the demand for EV's at the moment..

I know car sales are struggling at the moment but that doesn't seem right. End of year is still looking like more diesels sold each month than BEVs sell in an entire year.

That shift is slowly happening, I'd expect Oct next year will see a real shift from diesel to EV given the tax breaks?

Edited by Smiljan on Friday 15th November 20:21
New Zoe due soon, Korean twins are like hens teeth, MG ZS might be another big seller if supply is good.

RobDickinson

30,790 posts

212 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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I think you will find supply of the korean twins to increase start of 2020 with the fleet emissions rules, Kia have already decided not to supply Australia with any because of Europe.

2020 will see the new Zoe, e208, corsa-e, ID3 etc etc plenty of cars that should have decent supply.