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jamoor said:
Only wash wipe when you press that it also brings up the settings on the menu screen. I don’t see it as such a big deal
i'm sorry but this is ludicrous - borderline dangerous surelyit's raining so you press the button on the stalk to then turn the wipers on via a button on the touchscreen? and it doesn't even have a proper rain sensor so uses the camera to guess whether it's raining?
I love a lot about Tesla but that is ridiculous
essayer said:
jamoor said:
Only wash wipe when you press that it also brings up the settings on the menu screen. I don’t see it as such a big deal
i'm sorry but this is ludicrous - borderline dangerous surelyit's raining so you press the button on the stalk to then turn the wipers on via a button on the touchscreen? and it doesn't even have a proper rain sensor so uses the camera to guess whether it's raining?
I love a lot about Tesla but that is ridiculous
Owners have said it's not an issue, but you hold a different view, would you care to elaborate?
essayer said:
...I love a lot about Tesla but that is ridiculous
The other way to look at it is that Tesla is moving towards autonomy via cameras, so the cameras are already there, so they're leveraging that fact to innovate something new.The automatic wiper performance has improved considerably in the year I've owned my car, and they're not dangerous at all. A quick press of the button on the stalk is all it takes if that's ever needed.
FeelingLucky said:
I'm wondering what's your experience driving a Tesla?
Owners have said it's not an issue, but you hold a different view, would you care to elaborate?
Tesla owners, notorious for their objectivity Owners have said it's not an issue, but you hold a different view, would you care to elaborate?
I've driven an S. That had real wiper controls.
We have a car with temperature controls on a touchscreen and that's bad enough. I'd hate to think of a crucial system being implemented the same way.
Caught in a rainstorm on the M25 and need to go to fast wipe quick, you think it's safe to be eyes down on the screen trying to find the option? For every type of driver - not just those with a technical mindset?
essayer said:
jamoor said:
Only wash wipe when you press that it also brings up the settings on the menu screen. I don’t see it as such a big deal
i'm sorry but this is ludicrous - borderline dangerous surelyit's raining so you press the button on the stalk to then turn the wipers on via a button on the touchscreen? and it doesn't even have a proper rain sensor so uses the camera to guess whether it's raining?
I love a lot about Tesla but that is ridiculous
Where they struggle a bit is when it's stopped raining but a light mist is kicked up by the car in front running through water left on the road. Again, much like most auto wiper systems I've ever encountered and a non issue with single wipe button on the stalk.
Totally overblown issue IME so far.
SWoll said:
Had our Model 3 for 2 days and just been out in torrential rain for the first time. The auto wipers work fine, changing to manual would take a second if required (but wasn't) and the button on the stalk does a great job of giving a single wipe.
Where they struggle a bit is when it's stopped raining but a light mist is kicked up by the car in front running through water left on the road. Again, much like most auto wiper systems I've ever encountered and a non issue with single wipe button on the stalk.
Totally overblown issue IME so far.
it is possible mine is faulty, but it has never worked and i have sat for hours in rain (probably days, i avg over 500 hours a year in my car), the auto wiper never activates until you can no longer see the cars in frontWhere they struggle a bit is when it's stopped raining but a light mist is kicked up by the car in front running through water left on the road. Again, much like most auto wiper systems I've ever encountered and a non issue with single wipe button on the stalk.
Totally overblown issue IME so far.
spamming the manual button on the stalk gets irksome after 45 minutes of doing it every couple of seconds
having to press the button then move over to the ipad to change the wiper speed suxs
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Friday 6th December 16:13
Dave Hedgehog said:
SWoll said:
Had our Model 3 for 2 days and just been out in torrential rain for the first time. The auto wipers work fine, changing to manual would take a second if required (but wasn't) and the button on the stalk does a great job of giving a single wipe.
Where they struggle a bit is when it's stopped raining but a light mist is kicked up by the car in front running through water left on the road. Again, much like most auto wiper systems I've ever encountered and a non issue with single wipe button on the stalk.
Totally overblown issue IME so far.
it is possible mine is faulty, but it has never worked and i have sat for hours in rain (probably days), the auto wiper never activates until you can no longer see the cars in frontWhere they struggle a bit is when it's stopped raining but a light mist is kicked up by the car in front running through water left on the road. Again, much like most auto wiper systems I've ever encountered and a non issue with single wipe button on the stalk.
Totally overblown issue IME so far.
spamming the manual button on the stalk gets irksome after 45 minutes of doing it every couple of seconds
having to constantly press the button then move over to the ipad to change the wiper speed suxs
Very strange but then Tesla do seem to have a well earned reputation for the variably of the quality of their cars I suppose. My M3P seems great but found out today that of the cars Evezy received last week 20% had to go back to Tesla due to issues. Lots of unhappy subscribers waiting for cars now being told March 2020..
Edited by SWoll on Friday 6th December 16:22
squirdan said:
I charged using a Source London 22kw charger this morning...
car went from 45% to 80% where I stopped it
they calculate it on the minutes you were connected, not the actual power you used
anyway...139 minutes - £16.54
still cheap vs petrol but not exactly a bargain. convenient though as by the office and avoids me paying for parking
strikes me thats a fat profit margin for someone though !
That time-based pricing does look naughty. car went from 45% to 80% where I stopped it
they calculate it on the minutes you were connected, not the actual power you used
anyway...139 minutes - £16.54
still cheap vs petrol but not exactly a bargain. convenient though as by the office and avoids me paying for parking
strikes me thats a fat profit margin for someone though !
The charger must have been running at well below max output because that time charging at 22kW should give something over 50 kWh but 35% of your battery capacity can't be anywhere near that much as it implies a total capacity of over 150 kWh.
Did it show how many kWh you bought?
ds666 said:
I can't see the value in reinventing some of this functionality - what's wrong with stalks ? Half this electrical wizardry is complete tosh .
Do Tesla drivers only need to pass a "limited driving ability test " as they seem to need to rely on all this v2.3 driver aid Sh*t
It has 2 stalks and 2 steering wheel buttons. What has been removed is having switches all over the centre console and it works very well IME so far. Do Tesla drivers only need to pass a "limited driving ability test " as they seem to need to rely on all this v2.3 driver aid Sh*t
SWoll said:
ds666 said:
I can't see the value in reinventing some of this functionality - what's wrong with stalks ? Half this electrical wizardry is complete tosh .
Do Tesla drivers only need to pass a "limited driving ability test " as they seem to need to rely on all this v2.3 driver aid Sh*t
It has 2 stalks and 2 steering wheel buttons. What has been removed is having switches all over the centre console and it works very well IME so far. Do Tesla drivers only need to pass a "limited driving ability test " as they seem to need to rely on all this v2.3 driver aid Sh*t
but the key things i change a lot are a PITA IMO buried in there like the wipers, temp controls and it needs an M button to enable mental power mode
the MACH E looks like it has the balance much better
Mikehig said:
That time-based pricing does look naughty.
The charger must have been running at well below max output because that time charging at 22kW should give something over 50 kWh but 35% of your battery capacity can't be anywhere near that much as it implies a total capacity of over 150 kWh.
Did it show how many kWh you bought?
I assume this is ac, the 3 only charges max 11kw then The charger must have been running at well below max output because that time charging at 22kW should give something over 50 kWh but 35% of your battery capacity can't be anywhere near that much as it implies a total capacity of over 150 kWh.
Did it show how many kWh you bought?
Dave Hedgehog said:
SWoll said:
ds666 said:
I can't see the value in reinventing some of this functionality - what's wrong with stalks ? Half this electrical wizardry is complete tosh .
Do Tesla drivers only need to pass a "limited driving ability test " as they seem to need to rely on all this v2.3 driver aid Sh*t
It has 2 stalks and 2 steering wheel buttons. What has been removed is having switches all over the centre console and it works very well IME so far. Do Tesla drivers only need to pass a "limited driving ability test " as they seem to need to rely on all this v2.3 driver aid Sh*t
but the key things i change a lot are a PITA IMO buried in there like the wipers, temp controls and it needs an M button to enable mental power mode
the MACH E looks like it has the balance much better
ETA - Also the satnav seems spot on to me? Not arsed about the lack of 3D personally and it seems to route very quickly and the instructions and traffic information are very clear. Spotify Premium is also very good.
Biggest issues for me so far are the steering (too heavy or too light, zero feel) and the throttle response in reverse being mental.
Edited by SWoll on Friday 6th December 18:00
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